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17 Dec 2020Introducing… Priscilla’s Story This week on Discovering Truth we are welcoming back Priscilla and Amanda Buys, this time Priscilla will share her testimony. Daniel will talk about regions of captivity and give prayer materials to come against connections to constellations and earth systems. Amanda explains the experience of witnessing the torment symbiotic bonds had on Priscilla. Priscilla will be expressing her strong desire to want to know God intimately… don’t miss this show! TRIGGER WARNING: This is not a program for the faint of heart, nor is it one that you will want to miss if you can handle the truth. There will be a few graphic descriptions. This podcast will contain information about subjects that may be difficult or inappropriate for some audiences including young children. About Amanda Buys: Amanda and her husband, Roly, have been working in the areas of deliverance and satanic ritual abuse (SRA) for many years and have compiled an impressive assortment of tools and prayers that have helped thousands around the planet. About Priscilla: Priscilla is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse (SRA) who is on her own healing journey with Jesus. She has had encounters with Nephilim and has a wide knowledge of the deep, dark secrets of the occult world. Her testimony about being a mermaid and Jesus’ healing are truly eye-opening and powerful. Expect to hear Amanda and Priscilla talk about: • The “5 I Wills” in Isaiah being a part of a ritual to choose to serve Satan • The duplication of babies to be used for sacrifices, rituals, or switching • The cult using frozen embryos for artificial wombs and surrogates • The mind of Satan is over many members of the cult for them to continue doing evil • The nephilim being put into the womb with fetuses to make them spiritually sensitive • The rituals that the cult uses to build up pre-Adamic iniquity • The swap between Priscilla and her twin sister at age four • The symbiotic bond between Priscilla’s sister caused her to relive the sacrifice • The traumatic experiences throughout the process of being conceived and being birthed And so many more truths… Truths from the Podcast: 1. “The reason why I’m saying this is that for my conception, for example, and the conception of other survivors that I have come to know over the last years. Some of those conceptions go back to the late 40’s or mid-40’s. Where they were frozen and put into a blue bowl and just kept in a frozen state. And something that is really important to consider is that sometimes people have memories that are before their lifetime. For example, I am 34-years-old, in my body, my body is 34-years-old. But because my conception was way before that, I can have memories that do not make sense to me. That I’m like well, I wasn’t there when Mengele died, yet I seem to have memories of it? I wasn’t there when Queen Elizabeth was coronated, yet I seem to have memories of it. Like my spirit memories… so when you have people that are talking about these kinds of things, it is possible because you were in a frozen state.” Priscilla 2. Referenced materials: Priscilla shared this link about a Baby girl born from record-setting 27-year-old embryo – BBC News (bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55164607). 3. Prayers: You can find the two prayers Daniel mentioned, Freedom from Constellations and Freedom from Earth Systems, at the Deliverance Portal (deliverance.bridemovement.com). 4. Keys scriptures from the show: Philippians 1:6 and Isaiah 14:13-14. About Discovering Truth: Discovering Truth with Dan Duval is a weekly podcast that was launched in 2012. It began as an investigation into conspiracy, the developing New World Order, and subjects related to end-times Bible prophecy. Over the years, it has evolved to include a strong outreach to survivors suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) due to satanic ritual abuse (SRA) and government-sponsored mind control. This program also exposes the Illuminati from the inside out, featuring many testimonies of Illuminati defectors. In addition, there is a huge focus on the Kingdom of God, victorious living, inner healing, and deliverance. New episodes are released every Thursday on our website, YouTube, BlogTalk Radio, iTunes, and many other websites. More from Amanda Buys & Priscilla: We’ve been left on another cliffhanger! Be on the lookout for the rest of Priscilla’s story… Stay tuned! For any other resources or materials that you would like to find from Amanda, visit her website at kanaanministries.org. You can also listen to her previous podcasts on Discovering Truth: SRA, Spirit Children, and Victory in Christ with Amanda Buys The Hitler Project, Hybrids and Kabbalah with Amanda Buys Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 1 Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 2 Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 3 Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 4

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ou’re listening to discovering truth with dan duvall

0:19folks it is my pleasure to make available to you another episode of

0:26discovering truth with dan deval featuring my friends priscilla from

0:33the netherlands and amanda byes from south africa and guys we have

0:39uh had an a whole series of podcasts together this year and you guys have enjoyed them and let us

0:46know about it and i am going to encourage anyone that’s listening to this like wait a

0:52minute who are these friends priscilla and amanda i haven’t heard about them go back into our archives

0:57broadmovement.com we have a podcast page where you can search all of our podcasts you can put

1:04in mermaid because that’s what we were talking about we were talking about mermaids we were talking about the fact

1:11that priscilla the person i am sitting down with today in the time of her service to the

1:18kingdom of darkness could shape-shift into a mermaid go into the deep areas of the sea and did all kinds of

1:24missions and assignments which we’ve already discussed and so be sure to hear

1:29all of that now today uh priscilla and amanda are joining me

1:35again because we are going to be talking about priscilla’s life a lot of you have asked

1:41what kind of a life does a person live in order to get to the level of

1:47darkness that priscilla was delivered from uh how is it that she

1:53was raised by nephilim for parents but how do we connect the dots

1:58on her conception because we kind of dropped knowledge bombs along the way

2:05but didn’t connect the dots and so that is what we are here to do today and and by the way

2:10amanda buys and her husband they operate canaan ministries out of south africa that’s k-a-n-a-a-n ministries and

2:18uh they are doing an amazing job with survivors they have made so many prayer

2:25resources and teaching materials available to help people and have blessed countless lives and so we’re very

2:31excited about everything that they continue to do in the name of jesus so uh priscilla welcome back to

2:37discovering truth thanks dan it’s really great to be back again

2:43amanda it is so good to have you back on the show thank you then it’s good it’s really

2:50very good to see that’s your journey to journey together and to learn and to share what we learn it’s great

2:57it’s really a blessing and a privilege well i’ll tell you what guys one of the

3:03things that i appreciate about priscilla and amanda is that before these podcasts they always supply me with pictures

3:10and this helps with the storytelling and so you know priscilla as we get into your

3:16story and tying some of these pieces of your incredible

3:21testimony together you’ve given me this picture that works as a bit of a timeline and so i’m going to

3:29just go ahead and put that up and let you start walking us into this understanding

3:36yeah thanks thanks then um yeah it is really extremely hard

3:42to give a testimony about everything that has happened in in

3:50in my life just because that because they program you and they split

3:57you in so many people it’s it’s like i have

4:02you know like 10 lifetimes inside of one body and it’s it’s such a story and

4:10and i mean all honor and praise goes to god because he is the one who

4:16has been able to make sense of it and who still makes sense of it because you know for me sometimes i

4:22i often don’t even understand my own story um where i’m trying to to put the pieces together and

4:30god is faithful but when it’s it’s that scripture is just one sentence in

4:36philippians i think that when god starts something he finishes it

4:41and and i have seen that happening in my life uh every time again he is faithful and

4:49and he um helps us um to walk the path not just me but other

4:55survivors as well so when you told me about the request of of some of the listeners

5:01uh to to uh connect the dots i was like okay where do i start

5:07and i you know at some point the light just went on i was like well why

5:12don’t we just start from the beginning and i just go through through it and amanda will just jump in

5:19uh when when she feels i’m forgetting something or i have to add something and um we have a dear friend her name

5:27her name is ellie and she she has done some awesome pictures i

5:33already showed a few the last time she really has a gift of drawing and not

5:39just drawing beautiful and nice pictures but she she draws the awful stuff

5:44and she does it you know she has gone through it herself and god has given her the gift to to

5:51draw it so i’ve taken a few pictures of her actually um that we go through

5:57but this first picture is a timeline where um where you see

6:04how the life of a survivor um basically is being drawn out and i

6:12thought this is a good place to start because um you know in the cold

6:19and when i refer to the cult i i i mean it can be the new world or the new world

6:25order the illuminati however you want to call it but my my name for it is the cult so

6:32when they um [Music] when they work on survivors or their

6:38projects it’s it’s their protocols and

6:43and um even though i am a unique person and god has made me

6:49uniquely to the code i’m just a project or a number and i go through protocols in in my life

6:57and many survivors will recognize these protocols

7:02that i have went through as well and so when when i’m telling this story

7:08probably a lot of people went through the same things as i went through they they recognize uh some of the things

7:14that that i will talk about so you see a few

7:20um pictures here of course you start with the conception

7:25and it goes all the way back to where you see just the stars of 65 years old

7:32and every star signifies a seal so

7:39from you see from 13 years old you see the stars one star two stars and then

7:44three four and five stars this is this is where you get sealed

7:49into um a next level um of authority or becoming higher up

7:56in in them in the cold also as a nephilim mother so i will get back

8:02to that later so to start with conception

8:08um i i sent you a link that i just want to for your listeners

8:15to get out there as well um this was released on the on the news yesterday

8:23this is um this is on the bbc you can find it on other websites as well

8:29um this baby was conceived 27 years ago

8:38and she was um put on ice frozen and 27 years later

8:46she was uh implanted in a um womb of um

8:54of a woman obviously and um and born and this is groundbreaking news because

9:01this is the world record for how long a embryo has been frozen and still

9:08um uh able to to to get to a living baby now

9:15the reason why i want to show this is that this is done with technology that has

9:21been released to our society and the technology that we see and and you

9:29know that then and it’s old it’s it the technology that we

9:34see is at least 30 years old so just imagine that 30 years ago

9:40they were already able to freeze an embryo and and and put it on ice and have it

9:46been born later on think of how old that technology was then so

9:55they have been able to do this for quite a while and the reason why i’m saying this is

10:01that for my conception for example and and conception of other survivors that i

10:08have come to know over the last years some of those conceptions go back

10:14to the late 40s and um it dead or mid-40s even where

10:21where it um where they were frozen and and put into

10:27a a blue bowl and and just kept in a frozen state

10:33and that is something that is really important to

10:40consider that sometimes people have memories that are from before their lifetime so

10:47for example i’m i’m 34 years old in my like in my body my body is 34 years old

10:55but because my conception was way before that i can have memories

11:01that do not make sense to me that i’m like well i i wasn’t

11:08there when mengele died yet i seem to have memories of it i wasn’t there when

11:16queen elizabeth was was coronated is that a good word yet i seem

11:23to have memories of it like my spirit memories and and

11:28um so when you have people that are talking about these kind of

11:34things it is possible because because they’re what you were in

11:39a frozen state and i i put a picture it’s picture number two i think um

11:45that has the frozen ball that um well the ball isn’t frozen but inside is the is the frozen embryo

11:54yeah this is conception and then this just after conception this is how i experienced it this kind

12:01of um it it felt as if i was put into a blue kind of bowl that was

12:08highly charged and it was both it was both freezing and burning

12:14at the same time it was a very very weird experience and the

12:22the interesting thing is that we all have a beginning

12:29and and we know that conception is the moment that that the spirit of

12:35a human being is assigned to to the sperm and oven that that just

12:42have become a person and so i consider

12:49that to be my beginning my my conception but my conception

12:57you know when they use ivf and things like that they they do this

13:04it’s not a circumstance where a a man and a woman love each other and they have

13:10intercourse and a baby is born out of or created out of love this is very much

13:17thought about thought through and they have this bloodline combined with

13:23dust plotline and they put it together and the moment conception takes place

13:31a huge ritual will happen and that ritual will download

13:38all the iniquity of those bloodlines that that go back all the way to

13:46to came like back to the fall they will they will that is how they select the bloodlines

13:51because if you want to if they want to create high level

13:57um programmed people they they work on the bloodline

14:05so they they select the these bloodlines have been have been um

14:11how do you say that um selected all through the years and and

14:18um and with this bloodline

14:24all the iniquity is being downloaded on this like few cells it’s just a few cells

14:31that that was just created and you can imagine that this is really

14:37traumatic for for this these few cells

14:42and what happens at that moment and this is really important to understand

14:48for survivors but also for counselors when this happens there is already

14:55a lot of shattering happening because you were not meant as a person

15:02as a just created few cells to get all these iniquities downloaded

15:10upon you so when i look back to this in my spirit and and um and i see what happened what

15:18i see is i see as if there is a huge explosion of star like stardust or gold

15:25dust and it’s my my spirit that just entered my body

15:31was just shattered in in in this huge amount of dust

15:38and they take that dust and they assign it to different places

15:43they assigned us to different dimensions to different uh places on the earth and they

15:50they use that for their own purposes and um and the spirit

15:58that is still attached to to the cells that grows further along

16:05with the body but already a big part of that spirit has been shattered and they

16:13so this is very important to understand that that is how they could do so many things

16:20with a person because they already have a lot of the humanity of of of me in this case

16:29and um so as you go from conception

16:36depending on how many years you you stay in that frozen state you you are being brought to rituals you’re being

16:43um like they use their crafts the one that we already talked about before

16:49and they bring you to all these places and they are rituals and more of that dust is being released

16:57over those places and because you know your spirit isn’t made to go

17:04through this and and so it just shatters and um so

17:12that is how they attach humanity of me in this case

17:18to certain places on the earth so if we talk about antarctica how how

17:25did i know where to find antarctica when i was first dropped in the ocean

17:31it was i just went to find my humanity i knew something of me was there so i

17:37followed it and that’s where i got and this is how that is how i got there

17:43can i just add one thing yeah sure uh i okay i’m gonna pose this as a

17:50question do you think this also includes locations

17:56off planet as well such as rituals on the dark side of the moon titan moon of

18:02saturn other significant locations in other galaxies for instance orion maybe

18:11yeah well i mean that’s a good rhetorical question it’s i mean obviously yes that’s where they

18:17where they put that um because part of humanity part of your humanity

18:24is being stuck to those places and and it make it’s it’s part of me

18:33so when they so let’s say they put a um

18:41let’s say part of my humanity is attached to the dark side of the moon and they want

18:47me to go there what they would do is they would kind of like

18:52activate that part of my humanity as if it’s a little light shining in the darkness

18:58and the only thing i would have to do is is is follow it and go to there because that

19:04is it’s part of me so it’s so easy for me to go there that that is how how they do it

19:12and does that answer your question you know and this is an interesting

19:17thing priscilla and i’m just going to let you continue this is so fascinating years ago we discovered

19:23that we had to get people untethered from constellations right but shortly after that i realized

19:31i have to get people untethered from jet streams from physical locations around the world

19:36that they’re telling me they’ve never traveled to in the natural life and it’s it’s a quantum entanglement

19:43it involves the dna i have two prayers in this book prayers that shake heaven and earth freedom from constellations and another

19:49one called freedom from earth systems and i have seen

19:55extraordinary i mean i i use freedom from earth systems almost as often as i

20:00eat lunch i mean it’s just every day i’m seeing this prayer setting people

20:06free from stuff and uh what you’re bringing up is a key because it’s actually

20:14how this bondage wasn’t stated in people and it makes me wonder just how many

20:22people may be the subject of what you’re talking about in that they are

20:27a an egg that that that is not implanted for years and years

20:34ritualized only to be implanted at an appointed time so that the power and the iniquity can

20:39be multiplied prior to you know birth and so

20:44please continue oh that that’s true what you’re saying and um actually before we ever met

20:52before um with amanda i went through a few counseling sessions where i prayed

21:00through the freedom from constellations prayer um i already bought the book then and um

21:09it was powerful for me to i had a powerful release in the beginning i could hardly

21:14speak it out loud like i really had to um work through it through that prayer a

21:21couple times actually and so yeah that was a big blessing actually

21:27so thank you but um so yeah that is that is how they

21:33um attach you to places on the earth places outside of the earth dimensions and

21:40um but then there comes a time when they feel it’s right for you to

21:47to be put um into a um artificial womb or a human womb

21:54and um well that obviously comes with trauma as well i already

22:00talked about that the last time with the with the artificial wombs and how they

22:06installed the artificial energy system you know the alpha omega

22:12chakra so a lot of rituals and and things happen over those um in the

22:19time that you’re being uh grown in in a in the womb and um

22:28what is also um interesting about this is that

22:34especially when you’re um in a in a artificial womb i’m not sure how it

22:40works in a human womb but what they would do is they they sometimes implant you

22:49with a with another fetus but this is not always a

22:56human fetus so for my in my example what i know

23:03is that i was um [Music] they put me together with a nephilim um

23:10inside so already from that moment while you’re growing

23:16you’re you have to fight for your life not just because of all the experiments that they’re doing

23:22on you but also because there is something in that same area where you’re trying to

23:28to stay alive that is trying to to kill you to to eat you or whatever it’s trying

23:36to do and and they do it on purpose because they give that hybrid or whatever it is they give

23:42it an assignment it’s not it’s it’s not necessarily there to kill you

23:48but it’s there to push you to to already get your fighting system

23:55out because you’re fighting uh against this thing all the time and it makes you

24:02spiritually very sensitive because this hybrid is loaded with with uh entities that it that

24:10that it’s connected to so you’re already working on this spiritual level when

24:16you’re you’re not even born yet so that is where survivors

24:23are are so sensitive to the spirit world often it’s because you know you’re

24:29being grown into that into that world and um and then when you when you get

24:38born when my my birth was very traumatic and i every survivor’s um

24:46birth is very traumatic um i remember that i started to get these memories

24:53back and and later on i would talk to other survivors or i heard other stories

25:00and and it was like it’s so weird because yes my story is unique

25:08but then i would hear another survivor and it was like that that’s what happened to

25:14me you know and and there are yes there are different details but it’s kind of the

25:21same so what they did with me is i was i was

25:27in a in an artificial room but then they placed me in a um in a woman that had just

25:35given birth with a c-section and they put me back in and

25:42this woman was bleeding to death and they basically i just had to

25:49fight my way to crawl out of this dying woman so what i was experiencing

25:56the life flowing away of this woman i was trying to not die myself

26:03and um and and i had to crawl out of this this place and when

26:12i survived that what happened is i don’t ask me how they do is made but

26:17maybe maybe somebody knows how they do this but they do like a quick um

26:26somehow you know they crack open the ribs and they they get a lot of the flesh and stuff

26:32away or the organs they get them away and that has been my for like the

26:37first few months of my life so i had to um yeah

26:44like that was my grip so that was you get

26:51very um bonded with death and and

26:58and um everything that that happens around that like the the the things you

27:05smell the things you the spiritual stuff that happens and

27:10that was very traumatic when i got to these memories and i think

27:16amanda remembers that probably pretty well because the body memories were

27:21were pretty intense and um yeah it was it wasn’t pretty um

27:31and you know the reason you wonder why do they do this what’s what’s why

27:39and the conclusion that i got it’s it’s

27:44they have the mind of satan and and everything that that god

27:51has thought of that a human being should experience in a good way

27:58and being safe and and being welcome and being uh loved

28:04it’s it’s he took it and did the opposite and and and that is what what happened

28:10with with me and people like me so um it’s just

28:17part of what they do and it’s it’s part of the conditioning that you go

28:23through as you as you grow up in the cult because not everything is programming

28:31and that that maybe that doesn’t make sense but you

28:36know you cannot program a person if there has not been

28:42proper conditioning so they condition

28:47a baby to to not be able to to make good bonding

28:53proper bonding only trauma bonding and and bonding to to the wrong people because if

29:01if a if if you as a baby learn how to bond in a good way

29:07then the programming will not be as strong it it will be it will be a lot weaker

29:14because it gives you strength to have proper bonding to to be able to be assertive for example

29:20and um if you if they they condition you

29:28in in your emotions not not crying in your anger in in um

29:35knowing that it doesn’t why would i cry nothing is gonna i’m only getting punished if i cry so why would i cry

29:43so if if they condition you in that way once they start programming you they

29:48will have a much stronger foundation to work from so that is what happened the first

29:57first year one and a half year of of of uh after i was born it’s it’s the

30:03conditioning it’s horrific conditions that is the also the time that i lived with the

30:09nephilim um there are different places on the earth

30:14where there are nephilim cities call it that way um

30:21we talked about antarctica already and and um uh under the temple mount in jerusalem

30:28is such a place and um growing up with with this is

30:36um it’s truly i think the most horrific thing that you

30:42can go through as a human being because it it goes it’s beyond torture

30:50it’s you know torture has a beginning and an end usually but living with the nephilim

30:57it is you’re living with beings that are not human

31:02that have no conscience that have a deep deep hatred towards everything that

31:08represents or that looks like god almighty which includes humans

31:14and um and they they are

31:22um how do you say that their emotions because i know a lot of people seem to

31:29think that hybrids or nephilim they don’t have emotions

31:34but i strongly disagree with that because they have emotions that

31:44are um

31:50no human should ever ever be subject to their emotions because

31:56it’s it’s pure satanic they have satanic hatred

32:01satanic rage satanic um uh how do you say that disgust

32:09and and it’s it’s not on a human level that they have these emotions and

32:16and as a human being exposed to this is is very traumatic and very the only

32:23way for me to survive was to become

32:28a nephilim so in my mind i i decided that i can’t be a human

32:36i i shouldn’t be a human because i will not survive this if if i’m a

32:42human and and that is where i just decided to to to be a nephilim and when i get to

32:50that sorry so i i just have to ask this question for all of the listeners

32:57from an outsider’s perspective do you exist as a baby

33:04living in a community in a house with a white picket fence or does the world not really know of

33:11your existence because you are in nephilim cities and basically kept underground

33:16so to speak yeah good question um so the answer is

33:24in a way it is logical but it’s also a bit crazy because when

33:31when you do i ivf right that’s the right word you don’t create just one one baby

33:38there’s not just there were more siblings that that had the same dna

33:45uh as i had it’s just that i was chosen to to um to be their project

33:54and they don’t dispose of the other siblings they use them for their own um for other purposes and one of these

34:02purposes is that um at some point the people that i was placed in

34:10in later life that i was that i knew to be my parents um one of my siblings

34:17was placed in there in my mother’s womb and um

34:24she was born around the same time as i was born except that she grew up in this what you

34:31say you know my parents were um

34:37in in in their front life they were normal people and christian people who

34:44were very young at that stage in their life and um and at some point

34:50when i was you know i was growing up with the nephilim my my sister was growing up with them

34:57and then at some point we were switched and um that was when i was

35:05about i was about four years old just

35:10just um around that time i was i was swept swiped i don’t know how you

35:17say that um swapped yes

35:23and um and and that is where i was um where my

35:30presenter was created by that time um the priscilla that that everybody

35:38was going to know and that part of me priscilla did not didn’t know

35:45anything about where where where i came from

35:50and that was the only way for me to survive in the normal world because i had to learn how to survive

35:58so um that is how how they do that so yes the first three

36:04and a half four years i’ve lived um without anybody’s knowledge that i

36:13even existed and after about three and a half four years

36:19they put me in the in in my parents house yeah so

36:26i have another question and then we’re gonna move down the story line

36:32because there’s similar dna in

36:39you and your sister is there a we could call it

36:46a psychic or a uh type of connection between

36:53you and her that allows her to be influenced by your torture and

37:01vice versa yes very yeah yeah that’s how it works

37:06exactly when we were

37:13swapped and what happened is she was sacrificed

37:22and her memories so far were downloaded in me

37:29so that i as the presenter front part who was going to live life

37:36now in this little country in europe um

37:43i had those memories but they didn’t really belong to me they were hers and

37:51what they because i had other siblings as well so over the years what happened i’m just

37:57skipping a few years now but over the years what would happen especially when

38:03i mean i would sometimes go through torture in my by going like a year ago and i would

38:10talk with amanda and i would say amanda i am dying i don’t know what is happening to me but

38:16it feels i’m spinning i’m being electrocuted what all these things and we would be

38:21praying and what’s going on and and lord revealed this to us and then amanda said well did

38:27you already check if this might have anything to do with the symbiotic bond with one of your siblings and then we

38:34would start praying and immediately we would we would uh address this and then

38:42the moment i would cut myself loose from this sibling things would start to ease and i

38:50wouldn’t be so much in so much pain anymore so yeah that’s really how they work

38:58i have a list of uh how do i call it uh

39:06relational entities that we address under certain circumstances

39:14due to the way that what they do and experience can influence people i’m

39:21working with i call them clones duplicates

39:27replicas derivatives replacements stand-ins twins actually have a longer

39:34list than that but twins are on the list and what you are describing i think will

39:41help some people a lot because i have language for stuff that i don’t have

39:47fully fleshed out explanations and uh what do you call case studies for i

39:54just know and um what you’re saying is really huge priscilla for for a lot

40:01of people because so many people are walking around and the lord has told them what’s my problem

40:07it’s your twin and they don’t know what that means amanda did you i see you nodding did you

40:12want to yeah i think i think this is a very important part um

40:18dan because um i think at a stage somewhere along the

40:23line we spoke but it would be good to just bring it in here again um that when they do the conception

40:30um of of this baby they don’t only uh make one baby um they

40:37they would make three or four or five depending on what the plan is and obviously one gets sacrificed to

40:44seal everything and then um one would be taken and put into a surrogate family like

40:50chris explained to her sister um and and so then they would also swap them in and

40:57out um if if they want to add a stage so they keep one in the cult

41:04and so these are identical um images of siblings and then safe

41:12they need press to to reprogram or put more stuff into her while she’s with the family of

41:19you know it’s three or four years old and she has to go for continuous uh programming then they need to have

41:26her still at school so they will swap in take her away and go and do the work

41:33with bruce and put the other sibling in her place to go to school

41:38so um it would all it’ll be this in and out swapping the whole time

41:44where we were asking questions the normal western mind asking questions how’s it

41:50possible you know how can you be away from home for a month of programming

41:56the school your friends they’re going to miss you you know i mean you ask these questions

42:02um and so i think it’s important to know that there’s more than one sibling created and then

42:10that what also is very keen and and we have found this with so many um is that

42:18they um they will keep one in the underworld in a in a state of

42:24death like on a life support machine and because of the symbiotic bond

42:32they they can let’s say press is not coming for help

42:38and she’s being tortured and tormented like over the top she’s gonna flip she’s

42:44gonna lose it she’s she’s gonna die she’s it’s just it’s

42:49humanly she everything in her says i’ll rather get out of this body completely

42:55because i can’t handle the punishment i can’t handle the torture and then we would realize

43:02that something’s happening like a voodoo thing but it’s live it’s this is this is not a doll

43:09this is this is a live person like doing it too and press is connected

43:15but in in such a strong bond it’s not just the coding it’s it’s stronger than that it’s dna

43:23it’s it’s blood of my you know burning my bone and flesh of my flesh and and and so they would keep this

43:31part the sibling on life support um but they would then

43:38torture this sibling put her on a wheel do the most horrific things with her

43:45and everything they do press gets hit with so you’re just thinking you pray you

43:54cut off you you bind you rebuke you you you walk through every single thing

43:59you’ve ever heard of you know because you’re seeing you’re seeing this this client

44:05presses die in front of you and and and you start don’t know what to pray anymore and you don’t know what to hit you up against

44:11then you know you’re desperate and then god started to teach you pray voodoo but it’s it’s not

44:18breaking you know and then we learned about this that there is this part of her

44:26sister her sibling that is being tortured and tormented

44:34over the top and and presses being hit so it was such

44:40a huge breakthrough and we’ve seen it within so many survivors already

44:46um that if you can get them off that wheel of death and and get them free because what they did

44:52was they sent a part of chris’s humanity um a presenter pot which is survival brain

45:00um we we have also spoken that when they create the presenter part they

45:06don’t create it from the same parts as as the other parts of the brain

45:13they created from the survival brain and that is why the torture and the

45:19torment they can do because it’s survival it’s you it’s

45:26you know you you live or die and so you have this um part of press

45:32her present apart that was sent to stay with the dead twin sibling

45:40all the time and so there was there was a connection with a part of prison

45:46as well as the symbiotic bond and so it was very strong

45:53wow okay priscilla yeah no that was that was

46:01pretty intense um and and but it also enables you to

46:07learn and and see um how it can help other people as well and

46:15and i think that is a good thing so yeah that that is um

46:23yeah we’re already at four years old is just one one thing that i want to to

46:30share very important it’s picture number three it is a very important moment

46:38um in the life of a survivor um and that is it’s called the new birth

46:45experience and this is where where you’re you’re still

46:51really small like i was 12 maybe 13 months something around that age still living with the

46:59nephilim and what they do

47:04is and i think we already explained this a little bit but what they do is they

47:12start explaining the gospel to this one-year-old child and

47:19what happens is you know we know that the word of god is living and it’s active we know that it’s light we know

47:27that it’s life-giving so even when

47:33the gospel is being explained by very evil people it still has the ability to bring forth

47:39life and as a baby or as a small child

47:45i you were i was spiritually so awake and i i for me the spiritual realm was

47:52more real than the earth realm like i only started to learn the boundaries

48:02of earth life once i started to live in my presenter life before that

48:09like floating flying um how do you call that

48:16going from one place to another place uh teleporting

48:22it was it was like eating lunch i that that was my life i didn’t know any better than that was

48:29my life and so i was spiritually very awake and hearing

48:37the gospel uh it does something with you and

48:43it is the only little bit of light and life that you see for the first time in your

48:50life and everything in you starts to draw towards that and and what happens

48:58is that jesus or i’d rather call him yeshua because i’ve had

49:04many false jesus’s uh in my life so yeshua is my favorite name for

49:09jesus so yeshua shows himself to you

49:16when you say i want to know that man that you’re talking about i i um and

49:23and that is where you have your first experience with yeshua and where he actually comes

49:30and lives in your heart and that is the the top of the picture

49:35that you see with the little child and the heart and and the lion of judah and it’s an amazing experience for a few

49:43seconds and what happens is they see this happening they see in the

49:50spirit that that you have come to know jesus and

49:57i can tell you all kinds of reasons why they do this it it there are many reasons but one of

50:04the main reasons is is that they want to steal the glory of god

50:09and if if that child becomes a child of god

50:16and they torture it and they heard it they steal the glory of god they rap like every what happens is they

50:24wrap this child in death it’s the second part of the picture and you see it’s like they bring this

50:30child into death experience after death experience and i’m not talking about two or three

50:36times this is 10 20 30 40 times that you die within a in a short span of time

50:45and and every layer is a layer of death that is putting

50:51that’s being put around this this little baby that that gave her heart to yeshua

50:58and every time there is a death experience another part is is taken out of that

51:07baby and is being assigned that is where the program is going to start they they take these parts and they say

51:15this is your name this is your name this is your name and they’re being put in separate places and that is

51:21the parts that they will start working on later and um and this

51:28i call it the new birth identity this new birth identity is being placed in underworld and it has

51:36entities that are guarding this this baby because satan knows that

51:42if this baby ever gets released in the person

51:48that’s going to be the end of story for for this for him having a hold on the

51:54survivor because in my life the moment that we found this new birth identity

52:02um in me that is when my freedom started to flow

52:08and and yes it’s a journey and and you have to go to that place many times because there are so many death

52:13experiences but it’s

52:18it’s a crucial part in in in a survivor and

52:26what they do with that um the the bottom part you see the fake evil jesus

52:33they introduced to you a jesus that will pose himself as your savior

52:39so as a baby you’re being put to death and you’re in a horrible pain and then

52:46you’re being brought to life and as you’re being brought to life

52:53you see this jesus and he says i came to save you you’re not dead

52:59anymore i am your savior and and you start trusting this jesus he

53:06must be the right jesus the other jesus must have been evil because he is the one that calls me to

53:12suffer so much he’s the one that caused me to to die so this must be the right jesus and

53:19and and that is the whole foundation that they will build on from that moment on so does that make

53:26sense that makes a lot of sense and and i’ll

53:33i’ll tell you you know it it never ceases to amaze me how often i

53:40find parts of people’s humanity in hades in the underworld in

53:46outer darkness in i mean it it’s all the time we’re going into these realms i

53:51call them regions of captivity all the time to get soul parts out

53:56and they have different levels of significance and so okay so you are for

54:04you are swapped into a normal life given a presenter downloaded

54:11with all of the memories of your sister what’s next well from that moment on

54:19you get the true meaning of living a double life because in in

54:27in my one world i lived his life as a little girl who

54:33goes to school goes to church she was being um i had a a huge hunger

54:41for for god and and and to get to know him and already from a young age i knew

54:49that he existed and i i knew that um that i wanted to know him

54:57and and that has been um i think that has been my driving force

55:07to get to the place where i am now because as as i was growing up and i was

55:14in my one world living a normal life i started to notice that i wasn’t

55:21able to have a intimate relationship with jesus

55:27the way i saw other people having that and i was i mean i was very gifted i was

55:35gifted with prophecy with leading worship uh gifts of healing and all these things

55:43i i that that’s been there from from a young age

55:48um except that it wasn’t the gifts of the true holy spirit it was of the

55:54false holy spirit i didn’t know it by then i i mean i was really thinking i was operating in in

56:00the kingdom of god but um it it it wasn’t um

56:06it wasn’t true but he as i was operating in these gifts and

56:14as i was building this relationship with god i just couldn’t get

56:20to this intimate place of knowing him it always was as a dis at a distance and

56:28there was always this dark place in me where where i couldn’t go and and i was afraid

56:33to go there and and i mean i had nightmares and things like that and i was i was quite young when i already started

56:40to see a therapist i was 13 i think or 14 and

56:46um so obviously obviously there was something wrong but i i couldn’t get my put my finger on

56:54it and then i just skipped a few years and i was 19

57:02when i discovered that there was the id in my life and um

57:10i found that i had these parts and they were all talking about these weird things and i i

57:17didn’t understand what was going on and um

57:24and from there i had my first memories that looked like ritual abuse

57:31but i wasn’t ready to go there in my mind like um i just wasn’t there and

57:39i made a decision of my will to bury that bury these memories

57:46and to um to just keep living my nice christian life um

57:55and i tried that for for a few years and i i allowed the id to be there like

58:02i couldn’t push the idea away like i had parts and but i i somehow i

58:08managed to have the fun parts to the front like parts that were cute

58:14and and that were always in for a and and you know sometimes these parts would

58:20talk a bit about where they came from and some of the memories and and i would be just like no i can’t

58:26accept that you know it’s that’s just not me um

58:32and then i was we’re talking now about 2014 so this is six

58:39years ago that is when i was

58:45at a very deep place where i was god i i want to know you

58:52i i see people around me who know you in an intimate

58:59way like emotional and they they it’s something that i

59:05don’t have what is it and god was really clear with

59:10me it’s only the truth that will bring you to a place where you

59:16can get to know me and i knew i had to make a decision at that moment

59:23either i’m going to keep all this stuff buried and

59:29i live my life the way it is now for as long as i can because i knew i couldn’t keep this up

59:34for for for a whole long time or i’m going to now really

59:41submit to god the way the bible teaches us to submit to him and

59:48and let whatever comes forward come forward and i

59:55didn’t know what i was choosing at that moment because i had no idea what was going to come forward but

1:00:02that’s what i chose i said okay god i can’t just live this life

1:00:09where i don’t know you like i want to know you and and will you just bring me to this

1:00:17place where i can be in in in submission to you and and where the truth can can come forward

1:00:25and only then the truth started to come out and it

1:00:33it went pretty fast from there and and in 2015 i got to know amanda

1:00:39and um yeah that’s when it got really crazy and

1:00:46um i mean it i still don’t understand

1:00:51how how god managed and how god thought it was worth

1:00:58his time in amanda’s time to to get me to get us connected and and bring

1:01:07bring me to this place where i am right now where the memories are starting to come

1:01:12they’ve started to come forward at the beginning it’s it’s all messy

1:01:18like you have the nightmares all the nightmares that i have been having over the years suddenly

1:01:24started to make sense and once they start making sense the next level comes and and

1:01:32that’s where the crazy stuff started to i started dreaming about these

1:01:38these nephilims hybrids um

1:01:43weird creatures um places that i i would never been

1:01:50to these places in my life yet i saw them as if i was there um i that is where

1:01:59god really opened my eyes and allowed my body to show what was going

1:02:05on so i was still in a place where i was in relationship with my handlers

1:02:13and i would be taken by night um through triggering and however that

1:02:20works but i would be taken to to ritual places all over the world and and the next day

1:02:28i would wake up and my body would like i felt i was hit by a train

1:02:36and i had bruises on on on places everywhere over my body

1:02:43i had burn like i had burn wounds over my at places of my body and at some

1:02:50point i started to take pictures because i was like nobody is going to believe me

1:02:56that i i go to bed with a smooth skin and i wake up and i had this huge

1:03:02bruise on my on my chin or i would go to bed with with a normal leg

1:03:10and i would wake up with that with a blister filled with fluid from a burn the next morning

1:03:17and and it was it was ridiculous i mean it was i had no

1:03:24idea what was going on but i knew i had to pursue it and and only

1:03:30um by just diving headfirst not knowing whether

1:03:37if there was even a swimming pool there to catch me with water i i just went and and it has

1:03:44been a deep dive ever since and um and one thing that i think is

1:03:49very important to to mention is

1:03:55for me it was crucial i think life-saving to

1:04:02break contact with my handlers which meant that at this stage in my life

1:04:10i had my own business with a friend of mine

1:04:15i was in a very close relationship with with my surrogate parents

1:04:22and um and other friends and i had to

1:04:29i had to break contact with them and that is something that is

1:04:36very difficult because every

1:04:42every normal christian religious organization will say that the moment you break

1:04:50contact with your parents you are actually so

1:04:55showing like sect signs as if you’re in a sect because that is you know often what what

1:05:01happens um or um [Music]

1:05:07they say that you’re not honoring your parents or they say that

1:05:13you lost your mind i mean all these things have been said to me that i that they told me that

1:05:21because i was working with amanda they said that i was ending up in a cult or in a sect

1:05:28because i was breaking contact with my parents um i was leaving my church i mean half of

1:05:34the church stood in my business telling me what are you doing you’re crazy

1:05:40you’re uh you belong in this church uh we don’t want you uh to leave

1:05:47this is not biblical uh you are um deceived i mean

1:05:53and i mean i that is still what they say about me in that place and and i mean i don’t

1:06:00even blame them because they don’t understand where where i come from and what has happened

1:06:07but it is very important for survivors to um

1:06:12[Music] to know that there is a season in your life where you have to

1:06:18break with the people that are your handlers and um some some there might be a time

1:06:25where where i um where i will get back in touch i don’t

1:06:30know i don’t think so but you never know god is an almighty god and maybe he will show them

1:06:37what they’ve been up to i’ve been praying for it i really pray that on this side of heaven

1:06:42they will get the chance to repent and to to get in get clean with god

1:06:51um because it’s not going to be fun for them to to be on the other side of heaven

1:07:00and have to um see what they’ve been up to

1:07:06wow well um so priscilla

1:07:12we kind of skipped a few years here going from you know

1:07:19that that younger years and straight to 19. now there’s a there there’s a few points on this

1:07:26chart that you gave me that i want to zero in on and just let you

1:07:31uh talk about a little bit more and here you know you put

1:07:38okay the new birth identity which we we talked about yes then the presenter at three years

1:07:44they swapped you for your sister around four years yes what’s this coming of age

1:07:53yes this is um this is a very particular ritual

1:08:01that um we i’ve already mentioned it a few times in

1:08:07the past a few interviews it’s that point in time where you move from being a

1:08:14victim into being a perpetrator so this picture um shows

1:08:21pretty pretty good how that works um you see this girl in the center and

1:08:28um she’s holding this baby in a uh at a place where where it’s being

1:08:34sacrificed and um

1:08:40that is a representation of a new birth identity so

1:08:46what happens is that this baby you kill this baby as a symbol

1:08:54like in your mind you kill that part of yourself that chose for

1:08:59jesus and you put an other

1:09:05layer or actually you put a seal of death over that part of you and you choose to

1:09:13never again go back to to this new birth identity to this

1:09:20jesus that that baby ever said yes to and you choose to serve satan

1:09:27and and you do that by um saying the the the five i wills of satan

1:09:35that are described in in asia wealth i think it is

1:09:41and um and that is also where um

1:09:48i conceived my first nephilim son so where there was um this is

1:09:55what this means is that there is an intercourse between a fallen angel and a human and the result of that

1:10:02is a nephilim son and

1:10:08this can be any fallen angel from any rank till

1:10:15lucifer himself who who is a fallen angel as well of course

1:10:20and um this this is where you say

1:10:27i am an independent person now who has chosen against god

1:10:34and all the programming that has been installed in the years from new birth until the coming of eight

1:10:42so that is that is about 10 years a little over 10 years um all that

1:10:49programming is now being activated in a way that

1:10:54you’re going to take responsibility for it and you’re going to move yourself up the ranks

1:11:02to put it that way and um i don’t know amanda is there anything

1:11:07you want to say about this yeah i think um in the healing process

1:11:13this is a very important part to understand um because of

1:11:21of of the significant change that you go from a child under your parents authority and

1:11:28now you’re moving into the perpetrator and from being a victim to a victimizer

1:11:36is so important because now you are accountable before god and

1:11:43now you are willingly agreeing with satan whereas the first 12 years you were a

1:11:50victim you were just handed over and you had to do what they told you

1:11:55but now you are willingly deciding to kill this baby who opened your heart

1:12:04to the real yeshua and she got connected to him at 13 months and and and

1:12:12they have fed you hormones and basically your periods start very early in the body um chris i think

1:12:19you said eight about eight years old things started you your body started functioning that you could they

1:12:25could impregnate you and you you that baby that they lay in

1:12:31front of you is actually one of your own children that you’ve given birth to

1:12:37and that’s now 13 months old and so when they put that child on the altar in front of you um you

1:12:45believe you are killing that baby that gave their heart

1:12:50to jesus um and it’s now your chance because all the hatred um and all you know all

1:12:58the murder all the hatred of of satan that he can’t be saved and you are made in god’s image and you

1:13:05can be saved and all of that is loaded on top of your human anger

1:13:11and so they’ve made this 13 year old the assassin the murderer you know anything with this

1:13:20because this this the the the one that’s acting as a which i mean they

1:13:26they go into different sections obviously but but it’s all the anger that they’ve

1:13:31encapsulated and enhanced with satanic anger and nephilim anger

1:13:38and so when she kills that baby it is with it is with the most horrific

1:13:45hatred that becomes part of her life and and

1:13:50i’ve had other survivors report to me that when they killed the baby they were

1:13:56wearing jewels um inherited jewels like like

1:14:04in the the family jewels so i said oh is it the ramen off so because

1:14:11this she’s she’s anastasia in 1944 this whole hitler project that

1:14:17you and i spoke about the first time um she’s part of that project

1:14:22and so the jewels that she was wearing is the ramen of jewels and every little 13 year old in that

1:14:29bloodline part of that project would put on the jewels at 13

1:14:35it’s rings it’s it’s very expensive diamonds and gold and

1:14:41and so this little 13 year old is dressed up and and it’s ballroom i mean it’s

1:14:47ballroom gowns and and and you’ve got people in in the upper stairs

1:14:53watching this whole thing like a theater and and she’s being led down the

1:15:00steps with all these jewels and then as she kills she’s got to kill in such a way

1:15:07that there’s lots of blood that the blood splashes onto the jewels so that she’s the next

1:15:13generation that is in line that is hating god

1:15:19that makes a choice against god that is part of the antichrist system

1:15:25and and then the the jewels it’s so important that the jewels have to be

1:15:30splashed with blood and that then gives her that that

1:15:36authority and the the ranking for her then to move into the adulthood of of starting

1:15:44to hurt other children um killing um assassins or whatever the the

1:15:52assignment is but they move then into into really being

1:15:57very very dangerous um attacking they have been trained so well to attack

1:16:04ministries to attack to come into our bedrooms um to astral in well astral they

1:16:13they teleport in and um come and do their thing you know come

1:16:18and attack you um send all sorts of things at you um so they are so well trained

1:16:26so this 13 year old is key it’s it’s probably of the last parts

1:16:32that that you get to so you know that once you’ve reached the 13 year old because she’s the most hidden

1:16:40she’s the most angry and she is the mother that gives birth

1:16:47to the nephilim child um and and that sets her apart and gives

1:16:52her that ranking as well so so at 13 year old she’s the mother and

1:16:59um there’s there’s just so many layered things that have to be removed

1:17:05you know when you pray and they go through the the ritual where they were upside down crucified upside

1:17:12down where they had um where there was this guy that was killed um while he was being

1:17:21killed she’s having sex with him it’s the most bizarre stuff um that they

1:17:28get exposed to in this 13 year it’s all the 13 year old

1:17:33ritual so it is really key really key and then the five hour walls

1:17:40um it’s it’s as isaiah 14 and um you know we where lucifer himself

1:17:48makes the declarations i will rise above i will you know put my throne above

1:17:55and so the the the 13 year old comes in agreement with that

1:18:00and it’s open total rebellion and so they re they get the the the

1:18:07actual character of lucifer and well satan it’s either lucifer is the angel of

1:18:15light or satan in all his death and and um you know death

1:18:23you know you don’t have another word for him um another important thing i feel prison what

1:18:29dan you you speak about often are the scrolls the scrolls of your life and

1:18:35what happens at conception because they’ve planned so well around the sperm and the ovum

1:18:42and they bring that together there’s this demonic scroll that gets red over your life

1:18:50and then at 13 it’s the scroll again and do you agree

1:18:57do you agree are you now with your own free will that which happened at conception when

1:19:04you were created now do you agree that this is your life and as a 13 year

1:19:12old the agreement comes and that is when they take legal ground go to the word

1:19:20where the bible says now what you’ve chosen you’re going to be the consequences and so um that’s how they play the game

1:19:29you know to hold the bible against you to hold god against you so you have witnesses against you

1:19:34there’s judgments of god against you but it’s like you know

1:19:40they they just have that attitude of of satan

1:19:46and i i if i just can jump in here a little uh what i remember in one of

1:19:52your previous interviews one of the questions that was posted on youtube was how

1:20:01how is it possible that they allow you to get out of the cult and i just want

1:20:08to set very straight that they the cults are not almighty they are not

1:20:16god they are not yahweh elohim and

1:20:21god has the final say and i believe that there is a way out for

1:20:29every survivor how well programmed you are what what level of ranking you

1:20:37are there is always a way out and and i i know that

1:20:44for me i was so convinced that i i wasn’t able to be saved because

1:20:52i killed what i believe was the part of me that gave my heart to

1:20:59yeshua so i i thought i wasn’t being able to be saved anymore

1:21:05but god always has a way out he had he he knew

1:21:13before adam and eve sinned he already had salvation plan ready because he knew

1:21:19that they were going to do that and that they needed a way out and and it’s the same with with with me

1:21:26and people like me when you believe that there is no way out then just look up and and and

1:21:33and see that god has set the road before you because there is a way out

1:21:38and and he is the one that is almighty and having said that

1:21:45because if you just want to put up the picture number five

1:21:51what what is the trick and the way that they deceive you and they trick you is that

1:22:01they make you believe that you as the new birth identity

1:22:08are not the same as the 13 year old who makes that decision to kill the new

1:22:13birth identity they make you think it’s a is it’s a different person with a different body

1:22:21and that is where the deception is and that is why the d.i.d is so strong and

1:22:28what was very key for me is i needed to learn that

1:22:36the baby that had to crawl its way out of the mother’s womb is the

1:22:42same has the same body as the body who gave her life to yeshua

1:22:51at one year old it is the same body who chose against god at 13 year old

1:22:59it’s the same body who had 26 year old married with the nephilim sun and

1:23:07and yes there are different parts in that body but it is the same body so if you want

1:23:14to show the picture once more i just want to explain it if you see this tower this is the tower

1:23:21of babel it’s it’s a pretty standard program that they put in

1:23:26in in the survivors what you see is on the at the bottom you see this baby lying

1:23:35and out of this baby the it this baby is the foundation

1:23:41of the tower that is being built and all the way up you see that kind of

1:23:46naked lady sitting on the on a throne and that is the queen

1:23:52let’s say the 26 year old that is being put in a in a cult has a

1:23:59position of power it is birthing all the all the illuminati plants

1:24:06over the world like like all the rage and old evil and the plants of let’s say

1:24:13corona you know it’s being birthed by these kind of queens over the earth and this queen that is

1:24:21sitting there on top of the world is having a nice life she is being worshipped

1:24:31by the kings of the earth she is being worshipped by the other lower level

1:24:40women in the cult she is uh holding a position of power

1:24:46so she is in her mind pretty well off and when you tell her

1:24:55that she comes from this baby she would be disgusted she would say i want nothing to do with

1:25:02that baby but that is where where

1:25:07i as a survivor but as a counselor you have to show the survivor that that

1:25:14that she’s been tricked and been deceived and the moment that i

1:25:20realized in my parts that i am just being given a place of

1:25:28power and position and and and that to do their evil plans but at the same time a part of my

1:25:35humanity is suffering and is still stuck in a place of death because

1:25:41i want to hold a place of power when i realized that that is the same

1:25:46body and ultimately the same person because god made me as one person he

1:25:52never meant me to be scattered into all these thousands of of pieces

1:25:59and and when i started to realize that that is when it had it was able to come

1:26:06together and that is where if if you want to show the last picture that is the whole counseling process

1:26:14that happens you you have the baby that that gave her

1:26:19heart to yeshua and and you have the 13 year old you have 26 year olds you know all those seals

1:26:25that are being being put up and um

1:26:30yeah if you have this picture and then go to the next picture yes you see that from this new

1:26:37birth identity you you see the 13 year old you see the first crown the 26 year old and it goes

1:26:44all the way whatever age the survivor is now if you think of these

1:26:52arrows and you put them the other way that is the counseling process you take

1:26:59the age of the body you take the parts you take the 26 year old and you go backwards and you go and you find

1:27:08that baby that is wrapped in death that may that chose yeshua and then

1:27:15when they become one that is where healing comes that is because

1:27:22yeshua jesus he never left that little baby the 13 months old

1:27:28and when my parts were saying well jesus left me jesus is the one he abandoned me

1:27:36then i would amanda would ask yeshua to show the

1:27:41truth and what really happened is that i abandoned myself

1:27:47i was the one who couldn’t handle the torture so i split off and i mean i don’t have to blame myself

1:27:53for this but i split off because i couldn’t handle the torture and i i i started to live a parallel

1:28:00life to to who i really am and yeshua state he was there in the

1:28:08torture he was there and he didn’t leave and i was the one who escaped from myself

1:28:15and when that started to kick in that truth

1:28:20i had to learn that i had to go back to that baby that was wrapped in death and had to

1:28:27i mean i had to hold it every extension of myself as a 13 year old as a 26 year old as a

1:28:3434 year old whatever age i had to go back to these steps

1:28:40and find that baby that was captured in death and every time another layer of death

1:28:46was taken off this baby until i finally had it and

1:28:51and that is where my healing started to pour and

1:28:58and where i got to that place what i was saying in the beginning that

1:29:04relationship with god that that i didn’t i didn’t have that honest and pure relationship

1:29:10and now i can i can say i mean i’m not there yet where i want to be

1:29:16but i know god in a way that i’ve never known him before and i would go through this all over

1:29:24again if i knew that that that this would be the end result

1:29:30and i mean i know there’s i’m not even there yet there’s much more that i can learn about who god is and

1:29:36how who yeshua is and that is what it’s all about it’s

1:29:41you know it’s i know all these information it’s interesting and and people who do not know about this

1:29:48it’s it’s it’s interesting and and exciting to hear about this mermaid stuff and and

1:29:55and the cloning and and that and i understand that but for me that has never been

1:30:02what it is about for me it’s been that my life can glorify god and can

1:30:08glorify yeshua and if that means that i had to

1:30:14get to that horrible knowledge of what it meant for me to become a mermaid

1:30:20what i had to do what i had to go through um

1:30:26that that is you do that you do it not because you want to because

1:30:32but because you have to because otherwise you won’t be able to

1:30:37to um let your life truly be in for god’s honor

1:30:46how amanda

1:30:53yeah dan i think i think chris has explained it very well um what i what i’d like to

1:31:00just underline is we have found through the years and i mean this was our own journey too

1:31:07is that many times you don’t know what to do with the parts you really don’t know how to bring the

1:31:13healing and when you do integration and you know what happens in the process because

1:31:20there’s so much so many layering so many parts and anyway so

1:31:25um when the lord showed us that if you don’t get to the baby there’s no closure so let’s say for

1:31:33example chris’s adult parts her extension parts would come forward

1:31:38and um you know some queen or some witch or whatever part would present

1:31:44and then um we would have a conversation you know and i’d say well um you know

1:31:50you you’re not really a queen and she’d be very upset and then i’d explain

1:31:56that you you belong to a human body you connected with through the silver cord and um we would go through the whole

1:32:03process and eventually i’d explain to you you’re tied up in second heaven and um you’ve

1:32:10been deceived and you’ve been you’re serving a loser and um you know that when you go to battle

1:32:18um who sends who sends a woman first who sends a whole woman army into

1:32:24battle first and and and the main guy he’s at the back because he’s a womp

1:32:30he’s too afraid to go first i said to god i serve yeshua

1:32:35he rides first he takes the battle he he he heads up you know he’s the he’s

1:32:42the captain of the hosts he rides ahead he doesn’t use human shields and

1:32:48why why does satan send you you to go and fight for him you know anyway

1:32:54we we talked this through and then looks like wow you know that’s true um so

1:33:00anyway we get to a point where we say okay third heaven is yeshua feel the frequency and second

1:33:08heaven and feel the death it’s totally a different frequency and then um yeshua would come introduce

1:33:15himself you know whatever the lord does but you lead this part um you know

1:33:21to you sure you you show the deception and this part actually has to make up

1:33:27their own mind it’s their own free will choice and then they say okay no i don’t want to serve a loser i don’t want to be

1:33:34you know um are used as a human shield i i don’t want to be lied to you anymore

1:33:40this is enough so then i say okay what you have to do is lay all your weapons

1:33:45everything your ranking your armor your weapons your accolades

1:33:52your pips whatever it is that you’ve received getting where you are you’re going to

1:33:57put it all at the feet of yeshua are you prepared to do that yeah sure so then they lay it down you

1:34:03know take off the robes the mantles the rings the whatever it is who you know in their

1:34:10position put it at the feet of yeshua and then i say okay are you prepared that yeshua

1:34:15burns it with his fire now because it’s no going back yep no okay we’ll do that

1:34:21so now they’ve accepted yeshua and a lot of councillors stopped there

1:34:28and they don’t they if you stop there then you have so much humanity because

1:34:34you’ve you’ve got a whole timeline that you’ve worked with now but you only were taking the

1:34:40adult part that is that is such a little bit of the full timeline and you’re leading that

1:34:48part to yeshua and you’re saying i’m done now and that’s the old way that’s what we

1:34:53used to do but you can’t stop there and that’s where the lord showed us that you’ve got

1:35:00to you’ve got to take from age of the body so chris is 34

1:35:05so at least she doesn’t have more stars at least you know the higher the stars the more difficult

1:35:11it is to undo all the layers and so so chris is only 34 hallelujah so now we

1:35:18go age of the body 34 all the parts who know yeshua come come together now go with yeshua the

1:35:26the christian presenter as well and that you go to 26 year old which is

1:35:31the wife down to 13 year old which is the mother now now we go and we’re going

1:35:37to find the baby this is the baby where you come from so of course in the beginning

1:35:42it’s difficult i can’t believe it i don’t come from a baby so we all come from a baby so we have to

1:35:49find the baby because they’ve done something to the baby to make you this queen that is sitting on the top of

1:35:57the tower of babel that is birthing all this you doing all the dirty work for the for

1:36:02for the cult for the new world order for the illuminati you are birthing all of the stuff all

1:36:08over the world through the portals you doing the dirty work but to get you to that position as queen

1:36:15you started as a baby so if we don’t find the baby we’re not going to get closure

1:36:21and and i have i’ve done this with so many survivors and they all

1:36:26tell you the same story that if you leave them just there as an adult and you don’t bring closure

1:36:33to the whole timeline they they still hanging and they are

1:36:38still accessible the enemy can still access them and use them in the cult

1:36:44and so you take that so you gather up all of them and then you get down to the

1:36:50new birth identity where the key is because that’s where yeshua is and that’s where the promise is because

1:36:57it was because of his promise i will never leave you that’s why we can work in this

1:37:02in this ministry and and we are able to do the deliverance because of him

1:37:07because of what yeshua has done because the price jesus paid because of his blood

1:37:12and so you you then you go back to conception right back to conception identity why

1:37:19because at conception identity they were one they were the one god made originally

1:37:24before trauma they were one before there was dust the gold dust that went all over

1:37:30through the trauma before that they were one and that starts at conception identity

1:37:36and so we gather up conception identity the time of being frozen the time of

1:37:41being scattered all over going in the motherships going in the craft

1:37:46going into the um into the portals you gather up gather up gather up

1:37:52and from conception identity bring it forward into new birth and from age of the body bring it down

1:37:58down down down down you know 26 13 year old dumped your new birth

1:38:03so now we’re all standing around new birth identity now we say okay you see the baby

1:38:12this is where you come from it’s your timeline you ended up as the queen over babylon but the baby

1:38:20what did they do with the baby you wait because this is the key you have to give

1:38:26lots of time here you must be patient and then if they can’t see

1:38:31we pray yeshua open show them the baby show draw the curtain open shine your

1:38:37light let them see the baby and normally the baby’s in a state of death um the baby is the eyes of the babies

1:38:44closed um i had the one baby just in the week that i was ministering

1:38:50to a client that her baby was in flames was just flames

1:38:57but the adult was working with the power of the phoenix

1:39:03can you see the timeline connection so you’ve got the phoenix with the adult

1:39:08working in power of the fire with with the phoenix but you’ve got the baby

1:39:15burning in fire the whole time so i explained to you i said while you are the queen at the top with all the

1:39:21power on the other side of the id is the one in constant 24 7

1:39:28pain and suffering you have the power because the baby was suffering

1:39:34and then we go and we release the baby and then i ask yeshua to to take the baby and to throw living

1:39:41water over the the flames to quench those the flames or the one the one was um

1:39:48a queen that was of the underworld and in the water

1:39:53and she had a crown on her head and we tried to take she tried to take the crown off to put it at the feet of

1:39:59yeshua she couldn’t get it off and then she i said okay how many spokes are around

1:40:06the crown how many spikes do you have she said eight

1:40:12i said okay so those are the queens that serve you yes so i said you nine in your cluster

1:40:19you know yes when we eventually got to the baby

1:40:24the baby had an octopus on the head and had kept the baby in the in the

1:40:31under in the water grave while she was the queen

1:40:37in the waters with a crown but there was an octopus that was actually with the eight

1:40:44legs it was the eight spokes and and the brain of the octopus was was the main

1:40:50crown so it is fascinating you know i can give you so many examples

1:40:57of working on timelines you get the adult whatever queen or whatever they

1:41:03represent follow that timeline down down down and find the baby and see what have

1:41:09they done with that baby and when yeshua blesses the baby and he brings the baby back to life

1:41:17and and the and the adult part that’s now just accepted yeshua takes that baby

1:41:24and picks up the baby and i say this is you this is where you come from and they take the baby and they push the

1:41:31baby against their heart and i say that’s where the baby belongs

1:41:37because you separated from the baby ask the baby’s forgiveness you went off and became a queen while

1:41:43the baby was suffering all the time now you hold that baby

1:41:49and and and every time press you can just quickly share here but what happens is when you hold that baby

1:41:56integration of the whole timeline takes place and uh and the cult has lost their hold

1:42:04no more did drd of that timeline is over they’ve integrated

1:42:12they’ve become one and no more access and so that’s why you’ve got to do a

1:42:18timeline after timeline of the timeline whoever represents as an adult you have

1:42:24to farm the baby otherwise there’s no closure and chris maybe you can explain

1:42:30being stuck just knowing jesus but not getting to the baby

1:42:38yeah i think that is just um it’s that moment where as um

1:42:46as the adult in the did systems for example the queen

1:42:52really needs to get to a place where she wants to see where she comes from and

1:42:58it’s always yeshua who does that it’s i know that i have been in a discussion with amanda

1:43:07you know i could we could be discussing for 20 or 30 minutes or even longer and then at some point

1:43:13amanda would be just like you know what we just ask yeshua and and

1:43:20and then yeshua would just come in with his wisdom or he would show something

1:43:27and then this this queen in me would see the baby and would know

1:43:34this is where i come from and if i want to stay in touch with yeshua

1:43:42i have to go back to this baby because yeshua is with this baby because

1:43:49and that is something that that got me every time again it’s it’s that queen that walked

1:43:55away from the baby and and from yeshua and yeshua he he loves the whole system

1:44:03so he he shows up and he talks to the queen but he tells the queen he doesn’t say

1:44:10the baby he doesn’t say to the baby you have to become the queen

1:44:16he says to the queen you humble yourself

1:44:21and you get on your knees and hold that baby and take care of that baby

1:44:27and and and then when they are uh closer to to each other what i

1:44:33always would say it’s like as if i would be in this queen part of

1:44:39myself it’s like i would see this hole in my heart it would look like a keyhole

1:44:45and that little baby would exactly have the shape of that

1:44:51hole in my heart and and yeshua would show me this baby

1:44:58belongs in your heart but you are the only one who can take it and put it there you

1:45:04have to do it and and that is how how i

1:45:09as this queen would be able to go down and i mean it takes time it’s it’s you have to learn this it’s not easy but

1:45:16eventually i would always be able to pick up that baby and put it in my heart and that is where

1:45:22that timeline becomes one one time one

1:45:31history and and they do this with many queens what i said there are many timelines but

1:45:37um there is an end to it it’s not something that you will do eternally but

1:45:43yeah that’s so good that is so good um wow

1:45:52priscilla amanda i want to thank you for taking the time to sit down with me uh drop some knowledge

1:46:00i i really appreciate the both of you and i know our listening audience does too even if

1:46:06they are still trying to figure out what they just heard and thinking how many times am i

1:46:11have to press replay on this one to get it all in

1:46:17that’s why we do a podcast you can listen to this as many times as you want

1:46:22folks i um so appreciate you guys and uh by the way folks amanda and her husband have a

1:46:29website kananministries.org k-a-n-a-a-n ministries dot org that you

1:46:37can check out if you want to see what they have available in so far as tools and resources and with that said

1:46:46guys until next time god bless

1:46:51and godspeed

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Dan Duval Interview – The Testimony of Priscilla featuring Amanda Buys

[1c] Twinned and Raised by Nephilim: The Testimony of Priscilla featuring Amanda Buys

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This week on Discovering Truth we are welcoming back Priscilla and Amanda Buys, this time Priscilla will share her testimony. Daniel will talk about regions of captivity and give prayer materials to come against connections to constellations and earth systems. Amanda explains the experience of witnessing the torment symbiotic bonds had on Priscilla. Priscilla will be expressing her strong desire to want to know God intimately… don’t miss this show!

TRIGGER WARNING: This is not a program for the faint of heart, nor is it one that you will want to miss if you can handle the truth. There will be a few graphic descriptions. This podcast will contain information about subjects that may be difficult or inappropriate for some audiences including young children.

About Amanda Buys:

Amanda and her husband, Roly, have been working in the areas of deliverance and satanic ritual abuse (SRA) for many years and have compiled an impressive assortment of tools and prayers that have helped thousands around the planet.

About Priscilla:

Priscilla is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse (SRA) who is on her own healing journey with Jesus. She has had encounters with Nephilim and has a wide knowledge of the deep, dark secrets of the occult world. Her testimony about being a mermaid and Jesus’ healing are truly eye-opening and powerful.

Expect to hear Amanda and Priscilla talk about:

• The “5 I Wills” in Isaiah being a part of a ritual to choose to serve Satan
• The duplication of babies to be used for sacrifices, rituals, or switching
• The cult using frozen embryos for artificial wombs and surrogates
• The mind of Satan is over many members of the cult for them to continue doing evil
• The nephilims being put into the womb with fetuses to make them spiritually sensitive
• The rituals that the cult uses to build up pre-Adamic iniquity
• The swap between Priscilla and her twin sister at age four
• The symbiotic bond between Priscilla’s sister caused her to relive the sacrifice
• The traumatic experiences throughout the process of being conceived and being birthed

And so many more truths…

Truths from the Podcast:

1. “The reason why I’m saying this is that for my conception, for example, and the conception of other survivors that I have come to know over the last years. Some of those conceptions go back to the late 40’s or mid-40’s. Where they were frozen and put into a blue bowl and just kept in a frozen state. And something that is really important to consider is that sometimes people have memories that are before their lifetime. For example, I am 34-years-old, in my body, my body is 34-years-old. But because my conception was way before that, I can have memories that do not make sense to me. That I’m like well, I wasn’t there when Mengele died, yet I seem to have memories of it? I wasn’t there when Queen Elizabeth was coronated, yet I seem to have memories of it. Like my spirit memories… so when you have people that are talking about these kinds of things, it is possible because you were in a frozen state.” Priscilla
2. Referenced materials: Priscilla shared this link about a Baby girl born from record-setting 27-year-old embryo – BBC News (bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55164607).
3. “I’ve had other survivors report to me that when they killed the baby, they were wearing jewels, inherited jewels. Like the “family jewels”, so I said “oh? Is it the Romanov’s?” because Anastasia in 1944 Hitler Project… the jewels that she was wearing are the Romanov jewels. And every little 13-year-old in that bloodline, part of that project, would put on the jewels at thirteen. It’s rings, it’s very expensive diamonds, gold and so this little 13-year-old is dressed up. And its ballroom, and you’ve got ballroom gowns, and its people in the upper stairs watching this whole thing like a theatre and she’s being led down these steps with all these jewels. And then as she kills, she’s got to kill in such a way that there’s lots of blood. That the blood splashes onto the jewels so that she’s the next generation that is in line; that is hating God, that makes a choice against God, that is part of the antichrist system. And it is so important that the jewels have to be splashed with blood, and that then gives her that authority and the ranking. For her then to move into the adulthood of starting to hurt other children, killing, assassins, whatever the assignment is, but they move them into being very, very dangerous. Attacking, they have been trained so well to attack ministries, to come into our bedrooms, to teleport and come in and do their thing, to come and attack you. So, they are so well trained, so the 13-year-old is key. It’s probably of the last parts that you get to so then you know when you’ve reached the 13-year-old because she’s the most hidden, she’s the most angry. And she is the ‘the mother’ that gives birth to the nephilim child.”  Amanda Buys
4. Prayers: You can find the two prayers Daniel mentioned, Freedom from Constellations and Freedom from Earth Systems, at the Deliverance Portal (deliverance.bridemovement.com).
5. “Years ago, we discovered that we had to get people untethered from constellations. But shortly after that I realized I have to get people delivered from jet streams, from physical locations around the world that they’ve never traveled to in the natural. It’s a quantum entanglement that involves the DNA…what you’re bringing up is a key, because this is actually how this bondage was instated in people. And it makes me wonder just how many people may be the subject of what you are talking about. That they are an egg that is not planted for years and years, ritualized only to be planted at an important time so that the power of the iniquity can be multiplied prior to birth.” Daniel Duval
6. Keys scriptures from the show: Philippians 1:6 and Isaiah 14:13-14.

About Discovering Truth:

Discovering Truth with Dan Duval is a weekly podcast that was launched in 2012. It began as an investigation into conspiracy, the developing New World Order, and subjects related to end-times Bible prophecy.

Over the years, it has evolved to include a strong outreach to survivors suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) due to satanic ritual abuse (SRA) and government-sponsored mind control. This program also exposes the Illuminati from the inside out, featuring many testimonies of Illuminati defectors. In addition, there is a huge focus on the Kingdom of God, victorious living, inner healing, and deliverance.

New episodes are released every Thursday on our website, YouTube, BlogTalk Radio, iTunes, and many other websites.

More from Amanda Buys & Priscilla:

We’ve been left on another cliffhanger! Be on the lookout for the rest of Priscilla’s story… Stay tuned!

For any other resources or materials that you would like to find from Amanda, visit her website at kanaanministries.org. You can also listen to her previous podcasts on Discovering Truth:

SRA, Spirit Children, and Victory in Christ with Amanda Buys

The Hitler Project, Hybrids and Kabbalah with Amanda Buys

Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 1

Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 2

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Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 4

Links

[1] Twinned and Raised by Nephilim: The Testimony of Priscilla featuring Amanda Buys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90SulXbIn4

[1c] Twinned and Raised by Nephilim: The Testimony of Priscilla featuring Amanda Buys https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Twinned-and-Raised-by-Nephilim_-The-Testimony-of-Priscilla-featuring-Amanda-Buys-i90SulXbIn4:2

[2] https://bridemovement.com/twinned-and-raised-by-nephilim-the-testimony-of-priscilla-featuring-amanda-buys

17 Dec 2020Introducing… Priscilla’s Story This week on Discovering Truth we are welcoming back Priscilla and Amanda Buys, this time Priscilla will share her testimony. Daniel will talk about regions of captivity and give prayer materials to come against connections to constellations and earth systems. Amanda explains the experience of witnessing the torment symbiotic bonds had on Priscilla. Priscilla will be expressing her strong desire to want to know God intimately… don’t miss this show! TRIGGER WARNING: This is not a program for the faint of heart, nor is it one that you will want to miss if you can handle the truth. There will be a few graphic descriptions. This podcast will contain information about subjects that may be difficult or inappropriate for some audiences including young children. About Amanda Buys: Amanda and her husband, Roly, have been working in the areas of deliverance and satanic ritual abuse (SRA) for many years and have compiled an impressive assortment of tools and prayers that have helped thousands around the planet. About Priscilla: Priscilla is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse (SRA) who is on her own healing journey with Jesus. She has had encounters with Nephilim and has a wide knowledge of the deep, dark secrets of the occult world. Her testimony about being a mermaid and Jesus’ healing are truly eye-opening and powerful. Expect to hear Amanda and Priscilla talk about: • The “5 I Wills” in Isaiah being a part of a ritual to choose to serve Satan • The duplication of babies to be used for sacrifices, rituals, or switching • The cult using frozen embryos for artificial wombs and surrogates • The mind of Satan is over many members of the cult for them to continue doing evil • The nephilim being put into the womb with fetuses to make them spiritually sensitive • The rituals that the cult uses to build up pre-Adamic iniquity • The swap between Priscilla and her twin sister at age four • The symbiotic bond between Priscilla’s sister caused her to relive the sacrifice • The traumatic experiences throughout the process of being conceived and being birthed And so many more truths… Truths from the Podcast: 1. “The reason why I’m saying this is that for my conception, for example, and the conception of other survivors that I have come to know over the last years. Some of those conceptions go back to the late 40’s or mid-40’s. Where they were frozen and put into a blue bowl and just kept in a frozen state. And something that is really important to consider is that sometimes people have memories that are before their lifetime. For example, I am 34-years-old, in my body, my body is 34-years-old. But because my conception was way before that, I can have memories that do not make sense to me. That I’m like well, I wasn’t there when Mengele died, yet I seem to have memories of it? I wasn’t there when Queen Elizabeth was coronated, yet I seem to have memories of it. Like my spirit memories… so when you have people that are talking about these kinds of things, it is possible because you were in a frozen state.” Priscilla 2. Referenced materials: Priscilla shared this link about a Baby girl born from record-setting 27-year-old embryo – BBC News (bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55164607). 3. Prayers: You can find the two prayers Daniel mentioned, Freedom from Constellations and Freedom from Earth Systems, at the Deliverance Portal (deliverance.bridemovement.com). 4. Keys scriptures from the show: Philippians 1:6 and Isaiah 14:13-14. About Discovering Truth: Discovering Truth with Dan Duval is a weekly podcast that was launched in 2012. It began as an investigation into conspiracy, the developing New World Order, and subjects related to end-times Bible prophecy. Over the years, it has evolved to include a strong outreach to survivors suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) due to satanic ritual abuse (SRA) and government-sponsored mind control. This program also exposes the Illuminati from the inside out, featuring many testimonies of Illuminati defectors. In addition, there is a huge focus on the Kingdom of God, victorious living, inner healing, and deliverance. New episodes are released every Thursday on our website, YouTube, BlogTalk Radio, iTunes, and many other websites. More from Amanda Buys & Priscilla: We’ve been left on another cliffhanger! Be on the lookout for the rest of Priscilla’s story… Stay tuned! For any other resources or materials that you would like to find from Amanda, visit her website at kanaanministries.org. You can also listen to her previous podcasts on Discovering Truth: SRA, Spirit Children, and Victory in Christ with Amanda Buys The Hitler Project, Hybrids and Kabbalah with Amanda Buys Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 1 Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 2 Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 3 Merfolk, Underwater Kingdoms, and the Mysteries of the Deep Part 4

ou’re listening to discovering truth with dan duvall

0:19folks it is my pleasure to make available to you another episode of

0:26discovering truth with dan deval featuring my friends priscilla from

0:33the netherlands and amanda byes from south africa and guys we have

0:39uh had an a whole series of podcasts together this year and you guys have enjoyed them and let us

0:46know about it and i am going to encourage anyone that’s listening to this like wait a

0:52minute who are these friends priscilla and amanda i haven’t heard about them go back into our archives

0:57broadmovement.com we have a podcast page where you can search all of our podcasts you can put

1:04in mermaid because that’s what we were talking about we were talking about mermaids we were talking about the fact

1:11that priscilla the person i am sitting down with today in the time of her service to the

1:18kingdom of darkness could shape-shift into a mermaid go into the deep areas of the sea and did all kinds of

1:24missions and assignments which we’ve already discussed and so be sure to hear

1:29all of that now today uh priscilla and amanda are joining me

1:35again because we are going to be talking about priscilla’s life a lot of you have asked

1:41what kind of a life does a person live in order to get to the level of

1:47darkness that priscilla was delivered from uh how is it that she

1:53was raised by nephilim for parents but how do we connect the dots

1:58on her conception because we kind of dropped knowledge bombs along the way

2:05but didn’t connect the dots and so that is what we are here to do today and and by the way

2:10amanda buys and her husband they operate canaan ministries out of south africa that’s k-a-n-a-a-n ministries and

2:18uh they are doing an amazing job with survivors they have made so many prayer

2:25resources and teaching materials available to help people and have blessed countless lives and so we’re very

2:31excited about everything that they continue to do in the name of jesus so uh priscilla welcome back to

2:37discovering truth thanks dan it’s really great to be back again

2:43amanda it is so good to have you back on the show thank you then it’s good it’s really

2:50very good to see that’s your journey to journey together and to learn and to share what we learn it’s great

2:57it’s really a blessing and a privilege well i’ll tell you what guys one of the

3:03things that i appreciate about priscilla and amanda is that before these podcasts they always supply me with pictures

3:10and this helps with the storytelling and so you know priscilla as we get into your

3:16story and tying some of these pieces of your incredible

3:21testimony together you’ve given me this picture that works as a bit of a timeline and so i’m going to

3:29just go ahead and put that up and let you start walking us into this understanding

3:36yeah thanks thanks then um yeah it is really extremely hard

3:42to give a testimony about everything that has happened in in

3:50in my life just because that because they program you and they split

3:57you in so many people it’s it’s like i have

4:02you know like 10 lifetimes inside of one body and it’s it’s such a story and

4:10and i mean all honor and praise goes to god because he is the one who

4:16has been able to make sense of it and who still makes sense of it because you know for me sometimes i

4:22i often don’t even understand my own story um where i’m trying to to put the pieces together and

4:30god is faithful but when it’s it’s that scripture is just one sentence in

4:36philippians i think that when god starts something he finishes it

4:41and and i have seen that happening in my life uh every time again he is faithful and

4:49and he um helps us um to walk the path not just me but other

4:55survivors as well so when you told me about the request of of some of the listeners

5:01uh to to uh connect the dots i was like okay where do i start

5:07and i you know at some point the light just went on i was like well why

5:12don’t we just start from the beginning and i just go through through it and amanda will just jump in

5:19uh when when she feels i’m forgetting something or i have to add something and um we have a dear friend her name

5:27her name is ellie and she she has done some awesome pictures i

5:33already showed a few the last time she really has a gift of drawing and not

5:39just drawing beautiful and nice pictures but she she draws the awful stuff

5:44and she does it you know she has gone through it herself and god has given her the gift to to

5:51draw it so i’ve taken a few pictures of her actually um that we go through

5:57but this first picture is a timeline where um where you see

6:04how the life of a survivor um basically is being drawn out and i

6:12thought this is a good place to start because um you know in the cold

6:19and when i refer to the cult i i i mean it can be the new world or the new world

6:25order the illuminati however you want to call it but my my name for it is the cult so

6:32when they um [Music] when they work on survivors or their

6:38projects it’s it’s their protocols and

6:43and um even though i am a unique person and god has made me

6:49uniquely to the code i’m just a project or a number and i go through protocols in in my life

6:57and many survivors will recognize these protocols

7:02that i have went through as well and so when when i’m telling this story

7:08probably a lot of people went through the same things as i went through they they recognize uh some of the things

7:14that that i will talk about so you see a few

7:20um pictures here of course you start with the conception

7:25and it goes all the way back to where you see just the stars of 65 years old

7:32and every star signifies a seal so

7:39from you see from 13 years old you see the stars one star two stars and then

7:44three four and five stars this is this is where you get sealed

7:49into um a next level um of authority or becoming higher up

7:56in in them in the cold also as a nephilim mother so i will get back

8:02to that later so to start with conception

8:08um i i sent you a link that i just want to for your listeners

8:15to get out there as well um this was released on the on the news yesterday

8:23this is um this is on the bbc you can find it on other websites as well

8:29um this baby was conceived 27 years ago

8:38and she was um put on ice frozen and 27 years later

8:46she was uh implanted in a um womb of um

8:54of a woman obviously and um and born and this is groundbreaking news because

9:01this is the world record for how long a embryo has been frozen and still

9:08um uh able to to to get to a living baby now

9:15the reason why i want to show this is that this is done with technology that has

9:21been released to our society and the technology that we see and and you

9:29know that then and it’s old it’s it the technology that we

9:34see is at least 30 years old so just imagine that 30 years ago

9:40they were already able to freeze an embryo and and and put it on ice and have it

9:46been born later on think of how old that technology was then so

9:55they have been able to do this for quite a while and the reason why i’m saying this is

10:01that for my conception for example and and conception of other survivors that i

10:08have come to know over the last years some of those conceptions go back

10:14to the late 40s and um it dead or mid-40s even where

10:21where it um where they were frozen and and put into

10:27a a blue bowl and and just kept in a frozen state

10:33and that is something that is really important to

10:40consider that sometimes people have memories that are from before their lifetime so

10:47for example i’m i’m 34 years old in my like in my body my body is 34 years old

10:55but because my conception was way before that i can have memories

11:01that do not make sense to me that i’m like well i i wasn’t

11:08there when mengele died yet i seem to have memories of it i wasn’t there when

11:16queen elizabeth was was coronated is that a good word yet i seem

11:23to have memories of it like my spirit memories and and

11:28um so when you have people that are talking about these kind of

11:34things it is possible because because they’re what you were in

11:39a frozen state and i i put a picture it’s picture number two i think um

11:45that has the frozen ball that um well the ball isn’t frozen but inside is the is the frozen embryo

11:54yeah this is conception and then this just after conception this is how i experienced it this kind

12:01of um it it felt as if i was put into a blue kind of bowl that was

12:08highly charged and it was both it was both freezing and burning

12:14at the same time it was a very very weird experience and the

12:22the interesting thing is that we all have a beginning

12:29and and we know that conception is the moment that that the spirit of

12:35a human being is assigned to to the sperm and oven that that just

12:42have become a person and so i consider

12:49that to be my beginning my my conception but my conception

12:57you know when they use ivf and things like that they they do this

13:04it’s not a circumstance where a a man and a woman love each other and they have

13:10intercourse and a baby is born out of or created out of love this is very much

13:17thought about thought through and they have this bloodline combined with

13:23dust plotline and they put it together and the moment conception takes place

13:31a huge ritual will happen and that ritual will download

13:38all the iniquity of those bloodlines that that go back all the way to

13:46to came like back to the fall they will they will that is how they select the bloodlines

13:51because if you want to if they want to create high level

13:57um programmed people they they work on the bloodline

14:05so they they select the these bloodlines have been have been um

14:11how do you say that um selected all through the years and and

14:18um and with this bloodline

14:24all the iniquity is being downloaded on this like few cells it’s just a few cells

14:31that that was just created and you can imagine that this is really

14:37traumatic for for this these few cells

14:42and what happens at that moment and this is really important to understand

14:48for survivors but also for counselors when this happens there is already

14:55a lot of shattering happening because you were not meant as a person

15:02as a just created few cells to get all these iniquities downloaded

15:10upon you so when i look back to this in my spirit and and um and i see what happened what

15:18i see is i see as if there is a huge explosion of star like stardust or gold

15:25dust and it’s my my spirit that just entered my body

15:31was just shattered in in in this huge amount of dust

15:38and they take that dust and they assign it to different places

15:43they assigned us to different dimensions to different uh places on the earth and they

15:50they use that for their own purposes and um and the spirit

15:58that is still attached to to the cells that grows further along

16:05with the body but already a big part of that spirit has been shattered and they

16:13so this is very important to understand that that is how they could do so many things

16:20with a person because they already have a lot of the humanity of of of me in this case

16:29and um so as you go from conception

16:36depending on how many years you you stay in that frozen state you you are being brought to rituals you’re being

16:43um like they use their crafts the one that we already talked about before

16:49and they bring you to all these places and they are rituals and more of that dust is being released

16:57over those places and because you know your spirit isn’t made to go

17:04through this and and so it just shatters and um so

17:12that is how they attach humanity of me in this case

17:18to certain places on the earth so if we talk about antarctica how how

17:25did i know where to find antarctica when i was first dropped in the ocean

17:31it was i just went to find my humanity i knew something of me was there so i

17:37followed it and that’s where i got and this is how that is how i got there

17:43can i just add one thing yeah sure uh i okay i’m gonna pose this as a

17:50question do you think this also includes locations

17:56off planet as well such as rituals on the dark side of the moon titan moon of

18:02saturn other significant locations in other galaxies for instance orion maybe

18:11yeah well i mean that’s a good rhetorical question it’s i mean obviously yes that’s where they

18:17where they put that um because part of humanity part of your humanity

18:24is being stuck to those places and and it make it’s it’s part of me

18:33so when they so let’s say they put a um

18:41let’s say part of my humanity is attached to the dark side of the moon and they want

18:47me to go there what they would do is they would kind of like

18:52activate that part of my humanity as if it’s a little light shining in the darkness

18:58and the only thing i would have to do is is is follow it and go to there because that

19:04is it’s part of me so it’s so easy for me to go there that that is how how they do it

19:12and does that answer your question you know and this is an interesting

19:17thing priscilla and i’m just going to let you continue this is so fascinating years ago we discovered

19:23that we had to get people untethered from constellations right but shortly after that i realized

19:31i have to get people untethered from jet streams from physical locations around the world

19:36that they’re telling me they’ve never traveled to in the natural life and it’s it’s a quantum entanglement

19:43it involves the dna i have two prayers in this book prayers that shake heaven and earth freedom from constellations and another

19:49one called freedom from earth systems and i have seen

19:55extraordinary i mean i i use freedom from earth systems almost as often as i

20:00eat lunch i mean it’s just every day i’m seeing this prayer setting people

20:06free from stuff and uh what you’re bringing up is a key because it’s actually

20:14how this bondage wasn’t stated in people and it makes me wonder just how many

20:22people may be the subject of what you’re talking about in that they are

20:27a an egg that that that is not implanted for years and years

20:34ritualized only to be implanted at an appointed time so that the power and the iniquity can

20:39be multiplied prior to you know birth and so

20:44please continue oh that that’s true what you’re saying and um actually before we ever met

20:52before um with amanda i went through a few counseling sessions where i prayed

21:00through the freedom from constellations prayer um i already bought the book then and um

21:09it was powerful for me to i had a powerful release in the beginning i could hardly

21:14speak it out loud like i really had to um work through it through that prayer a

21:21couple times actually and so yeah that was a big blessing actually

21:27so thank you but um so yeah that is that is how they

21:33um attach you to places on the earth places outside of the earth dimensions and

21:40um but then there comes a time when they feel it’s right for you to

21:47to be put um into a um artificial womb or a human womb

21:54and um well that obviously comes with trauma as well i already

22:00talked about that the last time with the with the artificial wombs and how they

22:06installed the artificial energy system you know the alpha omega

22:12chakra so a lot of rituals and and things happen over those um in the

22:19time that you’re being uh grown in in a in the womb and um

22:28what is also um interesting about this is that

22:34especially when you’re um in a in a artificial womb i’m not sure how it

22:40works in a human womb but what they would do is they they sometimes implant you

22:49with a with another fetus but this is not always a

22:56human fetus so for my in my example what i know

23:03is that i was um [Music] they put me together with a nephilim um

23:10inside so already from that moment while you’re growing

23:16you’re you have to fight for your life not just because of all the experiments that they’re doing

23:22on you but also because there is something in that same area where you’re trying to

23:28to stay alive that is trying to to kill you to to eat you or whatever it’s trying

23:36to do and and they do it on purpose because they give that hybrid or whatever it is they give

23:42it an assignment it’s not it’s it’s not necessarily there to kill you

23:48but it’s there to push you to to already get your fighting system

23:55out because you’re fighting uh against this thing all the time and it makes you

24:02spiritually very sensitive because this hybrid is loaded with with uh entities that it that

24:10that it’s connected to so you’re already working on this spiritual level when

24:16you’re you’re not even born yet so that is where survivors

24:23are are so sensitive to the spirit world often it’s because you know you’re

24:29being grown into that into that world and um and then when you when you get

24:38born when my my birth was very traumatic and i every survivor’s um

24:46birth is very traumatic um i remember that i started to get these memories

24:53back and and later on i would talk to other survivors or i heard other stories

25:00and and it was like it’s so weird because yes my story is unique

25:08but then i would hear another survivor and it was like that that’s what happened to

25:14me you know and and there are yes there are different details but it’s kind of the

25:21same so what they did with me is i was i was

25:27in a in an artificial room but then they placed me in a um in a woman that had just

25:35given birth with a c-section and they put me back in and

25:42this woman was bleeding to death and they basically i just had to

25:49fight my way to crawl out of this dying woman so what i was experiencing

25:56the life flowing away of this woman i was trying to not die myself

26:03and um and and i had to crawl out of this this place and when

26:12i survived that what happened is i don’t ask me how they do is made but

26:17maybe maybe somebody knows how they do this but they do like a quick um

26:26somehow you know they crack open the ribs and they they get a lot of the flesh and stuff

26:32away or the organs they get them away and that has been my for like the

26:37first few months of my life so i had to um yeah

26:44like that was my grip so that was you get

26:51very um bonded with death and and

26:58and um everything that that happens around that like the the the things you

27:05smell the things you the spiritual stuff that happens and

27:10that was very traumatic when i got to these memories and i think

27:16amanda remembers that probably pretty well because the body memories were

27:21were pretty intense and um yeah it was it wasn’t pretty um

27:31and you know the reason you wonder why do they do this what’s what’s why

27:39and the conclusion that i got it’s it’s

27:44they have the mind of satan and and everything that that god

27:51has thought of that a human being should experience in a good way

27:58and being safe and and being welcome and being uh loved

28:04it’s it’s he took it and did the opposite and and and that is what what happened

28:10with with me and people like me so um it’s just

28:17part of what they do and it’s it’s part of the conditioning that you go

28:23through as you as you grow up in the cult because not everything is programming

28:31and that that maybe that doesn’t make sense but you

28:36know you cannot program a person if there has not been

28:42proper conditioning so they condition

28:47a baby to to not be able to to make good bonding

28:53proper bonding only trauma bonding and and bonding to to the wrong people because if

29:01if a if if you as a baby learn how to bond in a good way

29:07then the programming will not be as strong it it will be it will be a lot weaker

29:14because it gives you strength to have proper bonding to to be able to be assertive for example

29:20and um if you if they they condition you

29:28in in your emotions not not crying in your anger in in um

29:35knowing that it doesn’t why would i cry nothing is gonna i’m only getting punished if i cry so why would i cry

29:43so if if they condition you in that way once they start programming you they

29:48will have a much stronger foundation to work from so that is what happened the first

29:57first year one and a half year of of of uh after i was born it’s it’s the

30:03conditioning it’s horrific conditions that is the also the time that i lived with the

30:09nephilim um there are different places on the earth

30:14where there are nephilim cities call it that way um

30:21we talked about antarctica already and and um uh under the temple mount in jerusalem

30:28is such a place and um growing up with with this is

30:36um it’s truly i think the most horrific thing that you

30:42can go through as a human being because it it goes it’s beyond torture

30:50it’s you know torture has a beginning and an end usually but living with the nephilim

30:57it is you’re living with beings that are not human

31:02that have no conscience that have a deep deep hatred towards everything that

31:08represents or that looks like god almighty which includes humans

31:14and um and they they are

31:22um how do you say that their emotions because i know a lot of people seem to

31:29think that hybrids or nephilim they don’t have emotions

31:34but i strongly disagree with that because they have emotions that

31:44are um

31:50no human should ever ever be subject to their emotions because

31:56it’s it’s pure satanic they have satanic hatred

32:01satanic rage satanic um uh how do you say that disgust

32:09and and it’s it’s not on a human level that they have these emotions and

32:16and as a human being exposed to this is is very traumatic and very the only

32:23way for me to survive was to become

32:28a nephilim so in my mind i i decided that i can’t be a human

32:36i i shouldn’t be a human because i will not survive this if if i’m a

32:42human and and that is where i just decided to to to be a nephilim and when i get to

32:50that sorry so i i just have to ask this question for all of the listeners

32:57from an outsider’s perspective do you exist as a baby

33:04living in a community in a house with a white picket fence or does the world not really know of

33:11your existence because you are in nephilim cities and basically kept underground

33:16so to speak yeah good question um so the answer is

33:24in a way it is logical but it’s also a bit crazy because when

33:31when you do i ivf right that’s the right word you don’t create just one one baby

33:38there’s not just there were more siblings that that had the same dna

33:45uh as i had it’s just that i was chosen to to um to be their project

33:54and they don’t dispose of the other siblings they use them for their own um for other purposes and one of these

34:02purposes is that um at some point the people that i was placed in

34:10in later life that i was that i knew to be my parents um one of my siblings

34:17was placed in there in my mother’s womb and um

34:24she was born around the same time as i was born except that she grew up in this what you

34:31say you know my parents were um

34:37in in in their front life they were normal people and christian people who

34:44were very young at that stage in their life and um and at some point

34:50when i was you know i was growing up with the nephilim my my sister was growing up with them

34:57and then at some point we were switched and um that was when i was

35:05about i was about four years old just

35:10just um around that time i was i was swept swiped i don’t know how you

35:17say that um swapped yes

35:23and um and and that is where i was um where my

35:30presenter was created by that time um the priscilla that that everybody

35:38was going to know and that part of me priscilla did not didn’t know

35:45anything about where where where i came from

35:50and that was the only way for me to survive in the normal world because i had to learn how to survive

35:58so um that is how how they do that so yes the first three

36:04and a half four years i’ve lived um without anybody’s knowledge that i

36:13even existed and after about three and a half four years

36:19they put me in the in in my parents house yeah so

36:26i have another question and then we’re gonna move down the story line

36:32because there’s similar dna in

36:39you and your sister is there a we could call it

36:46a psychic or a uh type of connection between

36:53you and her that allows her to be influenced by your torture and

37:01vice versa yes very yeah yeah that’s how it works

37:06exactly when we were

37:13swapped and what happened is she was sacrificed

37:22and her memories so far were downloaded in me

37:29so that i as the presenter front part who was going to live life

37:36now in this little country in europe um

37:43i had those memories but they didn’t really belong to me they were hers and

37:51what they because i had other siblings as well so over the years what happened i’m just

37:57skipping a few years now but over the years what would happen especially when

38:03i mean i would sometimes go through torture in my by going like a year ago and i would

38:10talk with amanda and i would say amanda i am dying i don’t know what is happening to me but

38:16it feels i’m spinning i’m being electrocuted what all these things and we would be

38:21praying and what’s going on and and lord revealed this to us and then amanda said well did

38:27you already check if this might have anything to do with the symbiotic bond with one of your siblings and then we

38:34would start praying and immediately we would we would uh address this and then

38:42the moment i would cut myself loose from this sibling things would start to ease and i

38:50wouldn’t be so much in so much pain anymore so yeah that’s really how they work

38:58i have a list of uh how do i call it uh

39:06relational entities that we address under certain circumstances

39:14due to the way that what they do and experience can influence people i’m

39:21working with i call them clones duplicates

39:27replicas derivatives replacements stand-ins twins actually have a longer

39:34list than that but twins are on the list and what you are describing i think will

39:41help some people a lot because i have language for stuff that i don’t have

39:47fully fleshed out explanations and uh what do you call case studies for i

39:54just know and um what you’re saying is really huge priscilla for for a lot

40:01of people because so many people are walking around and the lord has told them what’s my problem

40:07it’s your twin and they don’t know what that means amanda did you i see you nodding did you

40:12want to yeah i think i think this is a very important part um

40:18dan because um i think at a stage somewhere along the

40:23line we spoke but it would be good to just bring it in here again um that when they do the conception

40:30um of of this baby they don’t only uh make one baby um they

40:37they would make three or four or five depending on what the plan is and obviously one gets sacrificed to

40:44seal everything and then um one would be taken and put into a surrogate family like

40:50chris explained to her sister um and and so then they would also swap them in and

40:57out um if if they want to add a stage so they keep one in the cult

41:04and so these are identical um images of siblings and then safe

41:12they need press to to reprogram or put more stuff into her while she’s with the family of

41:19you know it’s three or four years old and she has to go for continuous uh programming then they need to have

41:26her still at school so they will swap in take her away and go and do the work

41:33with bruce and put the other sibling in her place to go to school

41:38so um it would all it’ll be this in and out swapping the whole time

41:44where we were asking questions the normal western mind asking questions how’s it

41:50possible you know how can you be away from home for a month of programming

41:56the school your friends they’re going to miss you you know i mean you ask these questions

42:02um and so i think it’s important to know that there’s more than one sibling created and then

42:10that what also is very keen and and we have found this with so many um is that

42:18they um they will keep one in the underworld in a in a state of

42:24death like on a life support machine and because of the symbiotic bond

42:32they they can let’s say press is not coming for help

42:38and she’s being tortured and tormented like over the top she’s gonna flip she’s

42:44gonna lose it she’s she’s gonna die she’s it’s just it’s

42:49humanly she everything in her says i’ll rather get out of this body completely

42:55because i can’t handle the punishment i can’t handle the torture and then we would realize

43:02that something’s happening like a voodoo thing but it’s live it’s this is this is not a doll

43:09this is this is a live person like doing it too and press is connected

43:15but in in such a strong bond it’s not just the coding it’s it’s stronger than that it’s dna

43:23it’s it’s blood of my you know burning my bone and flesh of my flesh and and and so they would keep this

43:31part the sibling on life support um but they would then

43:38torture this sibling put her on a wheel do the most horrific things with her

43:45and everything they do press gets hit with so you’re just thinking you pray you

43:54cut off you you bind you rebuke you you you walk through every single thing

43:59you’ve ever heard of you know because you’re seeing you’re seeing this this client

44:05presses die in front of you and and and you start don’t know what to pray anymore and you don’t know what to hit you up against

44:11then you know you’re desperate and then god started to teach you pray voodoo but it’s it’s not

44:18breaking you know and then we learned about this that there is this part of her

44:26sister her sibling that is being tortured and tormented

44:34over the top and and presses being hit so it was such

44:40a huge breakthrough and we’ve seen it within so many survivors already

44:46um that if you can get them off that wheel of death and and get them free because what they did

44:52was they sent a part of chris’s humanity um a presenter pot which is survival brain

45:00um we we have also spoken that when they create the presenter part they

45:06don’t create it from the same parts as as the other parts of the brain

45:13they created from the survival brain and that is why the torture and the

45:19torment they can do because it’s survival it’s you it’s

45:26you know you you live or die and so you have this um part of press

45:32her present apart that was sent to stay with the dead twin sibling

45:40all the time and so there was there was a connection with a part of prison

45:46as well as the symbiotic bond and so it was very strong

45:53wow okay priscilla yeah no that was that was

46:01pretty intense um and and but it also enables you to

46:07learn and and see um how it can help other people as well and

46:15and i think that is a good thing so yeah that that is um

46:23yeah we’re already at four years old is just one one thing that i want to to

46:30share very important it’s picture number three it is a very important moment

46:38um in the life of a survivor um and that is it’s called the new birth

46:45experience and this is where where you’re you’re still

46:51really small like i was 12 maybe 13 months something around that age still living with the

46:59nephilim and what they do

47:04is and i think we already explained this a little bit but what they do is they

47:12start explaining the gospel to this one-year-old child and

47:19what happens is you know we know that the word of god is living and it’s active we know that it’s light we know

47:27that it’s life-giving so even when

47:33the gospel is being explained by very evil people it still has the ability to bring forth

47:39life and as a baby or as a small child

47:45i you were i was spiritually so awake and i i for me the spiritual realm was

47:52more real than the earth realm like i only started to learn the boundaries

48:02of earth life once i started to live in my presenter life before that

48:09like floating flying um how do you call that

48:16going from one place to another place uh teleporting

48:22it was it was like eating lunch i that that was my life i didn’t know any better than that was

48:29my life and so i was spiritually very awake and hearing

48:37the gospel uh it does something with you and

48:43it is the only little bit of light and life that you see for the first time in your

48:50life and everything in you starts to draw towards that and and what happens

48:58is that jesus or i’d rather call him yeshua because i’ve had

49:04many false jesus’s uh in my life so yeshua is my favorite name for

49:09jesus so yeshua shows himself to you

49:16when you say i want to know that man that you’re talking about i i um and

49:23and that is where you have your first experience with yeshua and where he actually comes

49:30and lives in your heart and that is the the top of the picture

49:35that you see with the little child and the heart and and the lion of judah and it’s an amazing experience for a few

49:43seconds and what happens is they see this happening they see in the

49:50spirit that that you have come to know jesus and

49:57i can tell you all kinds of reasons why they do this it it there are many reasons but one of

50:04the main reasons is is that they want to steal the glory of god

50:09and if if that child becomes a child of god

50:16and they torture it and they heard it they steal the glory of god they rap like every what happens is they

50:24wrap this child in death it’s the second part of the picture and you see it’s like they bring this

50:30child into death experience after death experience and i’m not talking about two or three

50:36times this is 10 20 30 40 times that you die within a in a short span of time

50:45and and every layer is a layer of death that is putting

50:51that’s being put around this this little baby that that gave her heart to yeshua

50:58and every time there is a death experience another part is is taken out of that

51:07baby and is being assigned that is where the program is going to start they they take these parts and they say

51:15this is your name this is your name this is your name and they’re being put in separate places and that is

51:21the parts that they will start working on later and um and this

51:28i call it the new birth identity this new birth identity is being placed in underworld and it has

51:36entities that are guarding this this baby because satan knows that

51:42if this baby ever gets released in the person

51:48that’s going to be the end of story for for this for him having a hold on the

51:54survivor because in my life the moment that we found this new birth identity

52:02um in me that is when my freedom started to flow

52:08and and yes it’s a journey and and you have to go to that place many times because there are so many death

52:13experiences but it’s

52:18it’s a crucial part in in in a survivor and

52:26what they do with that um the the bottom part you see the fake evil jesus

52:33they introduced to you a jesus that will pose himself as your savior

52:39so as a baby you’re being put to death and you’re in a horrible pain and then

52:46you’re being brought to life and as you’re being brought to life

52:53you see this jesus and he says i came to save you you’re not dead

52:59anymore i am your savior and and you start trusting this jesus he

53:06must be the right jesus the other jesus must have been evil because he is the one that calls me to

53:12suffer so much he’s the one that caused me to to die so this must be the right jesus and

53:19and and that is the whole foundation that they will build on from that moment on so does that make

53:26sense that makes a lot of sense and and i’ll

53:33i’ll tell you you know it it never ceases to amaze me how often i

53:40find parts of people’s humanity in hades in the underworld in

53:46outer darkness in i mean it it’s all the time we’re going into these realms i

53:51call them regions of captivity all the time to get soul parts out

53:56and they have different levels of significance and so okay so you are for

54:04you are swapped into a normal life given a presenter downloaded

54:11with all of the memories of your sister what’s next well from that moment on

54:19you get the true meaning of living a double life because in in

54:27in my one world i lived his life as a little girl who

54:33goes to school goes to church she was being um i had a a huge hunger

54:41for for god and and and to get to know him and already from a young age i knew

54:49that he existed and i i knew that um that i wanted to know him

54:57and and that has been um i think that has been my driving force

55:07to get to the place where i am now because as as i was growing up and i was

55:14in my one world living a normal life i started to notice that i wasn’t

55:21able to have a intimate relationship with jesus

55:27the way i saw other people having that and i was i mean i was very gifted i was

55:35gifted with prophecy with leading worship uh gifts of healing and all these things

55:43i i that that’s been there from from a young age

55:48um except that it wasn’t the gifts of the true holy spirit it was of the

55:54false holy spirit i didn’t know it by then i i mean i was really thinking i was operating in in

56:00the kingdom of god but um it it it wasn’t um

56:06it wasn’t true but he as i was operating in these gifts and

56:14as i was building this relationship with god i just couldn’t get

56:20to this intimate place of knowing him it always was as a dis at a distance and

56:28there was always this dark place in me where where i couldn’t go and and i was afraid

56:33to go there and and i mean i had nightmares and things like that and i was i was quite young when i already started

56:40to see a therapist i was 13 i think or 14 and

56:46um so obviously obviously there was something wrong but i i couldn’t get my put my finger on

56:54it and then i just skipped a few years and i was 19

57:02when i discovered that there was the id in my life and um

57:10i found that i had these parts and they were all talking about these weird things and i i

57:17didn’t understand what was going on and um

57:24and from there i had my first memories that looked like ritual abuse

57:31but i wasn’t ready to go there in my mind like um i just wasn’t there and

57:39i made a decision of my will to bury that bury these memories

57:46and to um to just keep living my nice christian life um

57:55and i tried that for for a few years and i i allowed the id to be there like

58:02i couldn’t push the idea away like i had parts and but i i somehow i

58:08managed to have the fun parts to the front like parts that were cute

58:14and and that were always in for a and and you know sometimes these parts would

58:20talk a bit about where they came from and some of the memories and and i would be just like no i can’t

58:26accept that you know it’s that’s just not me um

58:32and then i was we’re talking now about 2014 so this is six

58:39years ago that is when i was

58:45at a very deep place where i was god i i want to know you

58:52i i see people around me who know you in an intimate

58:59way like emotional and they they it’s something that i

59:05don’t have what is it and god was really clear with

59:10me it’s only the truth that will bring you to a place where you

59:16can get to know me and i knew i had to make a decision at that moment

59:23either i’m going to keep all this stuff buried and

59:29i live my life the way it is now for as long as i can because i knew i couldn’t keep this up

59:34for for for a whole long time or i’m going to now really

59:41submit to god the way the bible teaches us to submit to him and

59:48and let whatever comes forward come forward and i

59:55didn’t know what i was choosing at that moment because i had no idea what was going to come forward but

1:00:02that’s what i chose i said okay god i can’t just live this life

1:00:09where i don’t know you like i want to know you and and will you just bring me to this

1:00:17place where i can be in in in submission to you and and where the truth can can come forward

1:00:25and only then the truth started to come out and it

1:00:33it went pretty fast from there and and in 2015 i got to know amanda

1:00:39and um yeah that’s when it got really crazy and

1:00:46um i mean it i still don’t understand

1:00:51how how god managed and how god thought it was worth

1:00:58his time in amanda’s time to to get me to get us connected and and bring

1:01:07bring me to this place where i am right now where the memories are starting to come

1:01:12they’ve started to come forward at the beginning it’s it’s all messy

1:01:18like you have the nightmares all the nightmares that i have been having over the years suddenly

1:01:24started to make sense and once they start making sense the next level comes and and

1:01:32that’s where the crazy stuff started to i started dreaming about these

1:01:38these nephilims hybrids um

1:01:43weird creatures um places that i i would never been

1:01:50to these places in my life yet i saw them as if i was there um i that is where

1:01:59god really opened my eyes and allowed my body to show what was going

1:02:05on so i was still in a place where i was in relationship with my handlers

1:02:13and i would be taken by night um through triggering and however that

1:02:20works but i would be taken to to ritual places all over the world and and the next day

1:02:28i would wake up and my body would like i felt i was hit by a train

1:02:36and i had bruises on on on places everywhere over my body

1:02:43i had burn like i had burn wounds over my at places of my body and at some

1:02:50point i started to take pictures because i was like nobody is going to believe me

1:02:56that i i go to bed with a smooth skin and i wake up and i had this huge

1:03:02bruise on my on my chin or i would go to bed with with a normal leg

1:03:10and i would wake up with that with a blister filled with fluid from a burn the next morning

1:03:17and and it was it was ridiculous i mean it was i had no

1:03:24idea what was going on but i knew i had to pursue it and and only

1:03:30um by just diving headfirst not knowing whether

1:03:37if there was even a swimming pool there to catch me with water i i just went and and it has

1:03:44been a deep dive ever since and um and one thing that i think is

1:03:49very important to to mention is

1:03:55for me it was crucial i think life-saving to

1:04:02break contact with my handlers which meant that at this stage in my life

1:04:10i had my own business with a friend of mine

1:04:15i was in a very close relationship with with my surrogate parents

1:04:22and um and other friends and i had to

1:04:29i had to break contact with them and that is something that is

1:04:36very difficult because every

1:04:42every normal christian religious organization will say that the moment you break

1:04:50contact with your parents you are actually so

1:04:55showing like sect signs as if you’re in a sect because that is you know often what what

1:05:01happens um or um [Music]

1:05:07they say that you’re not honoring your parents or they say that

1:05:13you lost your mind i mean all these things have been said to me that i that they told me that

1:05:21because i was working with amanda they said that i was ending up in a cult or in a sect

1:05:28because i was breaking contact with my parents um i was leaving my church i mean half of

1:05:34the church stood in my business telling me what are you doing you’re crazy

1:05:40you’re uh you belong in this church uh we don’t want you uh to leave

1:05:47this is not biblical uh you are um deceived i mean

1:05:53and i mean i that is still what they say about me in that place and and i mean i don’t

1:06:00even blame them because they don’t understand where where i come from and what has happened

1:06:07but it is very important for survivors to um

1:06:12[Music] to know that there is a season in your life where you have to

1:06:18break with the people that are your handlers and um some some there might be a time

1:06:25where where i um where i will get back in touch i don’t

1:06:30know i don’t think so but you never know god is an almighty god and maybe he will show them

1:06:37what they’ve been up to i’ve been praying for it i really pray that on this side of heaven

1:06:42they will get the chance to repent and to to get in get clean with god

1:06:51um because it’s not going to be fun for them to to be on the other side of heaven

1:07:00and have to um see what they’ve been up to

1:07:06wow well um so priscilla

1:07:12we kind of skipped a few years here going from you know

1:07:19that that younger years and straight to 19. now there’s a there there’s a few points on this

1:07:26chart that you gave me that i want to zero in on and just let you

1:07:31uh talk about a little bit more and here you know you put

1:07:38okay the new birth identity which we we talked about yes then the presenter at three years

1:07:44they swapped you for your sister around four years yes what’s this coming of age

1:07:53yes this is um this is a very particular ritual

1:08:01that um we i’ve already mentioned it a few times in

1:08:07the past a few interviews it’s that point in time where you move from being a

1:08:14victim into being a perpetrator so this picture um shows

1:08:21pretty pretty good how that works um you see this girl in the center and

1:08:28um she’s holding this baby in a uh at a place where where it’s being

1:08:34sacrificed and um

1:08:40that is a representation of a new birth identity so

1:08:46what happens is that this baby you kill this baby as a symbol

1:08:54like in your mind you kill that part of yourself that chose for

1:08:59jesus and you put an other

1:09:05layer or actually you put a seal of death over that part of you and you choose to

1:09:13never again go back to to this new birth identity to this

1:09:20jesus that that baby ever said yes to and you choose to serve satan

1:09:27and and you do that by um saying the the the five i wills of satan

1:09:35that are described in in asia wealth i think it is

1:09:41and um and that is also where um

1:09:48i conceived my first nephilim son so where there was um this is

1:09:55what this means is that there is an intercourse between a fallen angel and a human and the result of that

1:10:02is a nephilim son and

1:10:08this can be any fallen angel from any rank till

1:10:15lucifer himself who who is a fallen angel as well of course

1:10:20and um this this is where you say

1:10:27i am an independent person now who has chosen against god

1:10:34and all the programming that has been installed in the years from new birth until the coming of eight

1:10:42so that is that is about 10 years a little over 10 years um all that

1:10:49programming is now being activated in a way that

1:10:54you’re going to take responsibility for it and you’re going to move yourself up the ranks

1:11:02to put it that way and um i don’t know amanda is there anything

1:11:07you want to say about this yeah i think um in the healing process

1:11:13this is a very important part to understand um because of

1:11:21of of the significant change that you go from a child under your parents authority and

1:11:28now you’re moving into the perpetrator and from being a victim to a victimizer

1:11:36is so important because now you are accountable before god and

1:11:43now you are willingly agreeing with satan whereas the first 12 years you were a

1:11:50victim you were just handed over and you had to do what they told you

1:11:55but now you are willingly deciding to kill this baby who opened your heart

1:12:04to the real yeshua and she got connected to him at 13 months and and and

1:12:12they have fed you hormones and basically your periods start very early in the body um chris i think

1:12:19you said eight about eight years old things started you your body started functioning that you could they

1:12:25could impregnate you and you you that baby that they lay in

1:12:31front of you is actually one of your own children that you’ve given birth to

1:12:37and that’s now 13 months old and so when they put that child on the altar in front of you um you

1:12:45believe you are killing that baby that gave their heart

1:12:50to jesus um and it’s now your chance because all the hatred um and all you know all

1:12:58the murder all the hatred of of satan that he can’t be saved and you are made in god’s image and you

1:13:05can be saved and all of that is loaded on top of your human anger

1:13:11and so they’ve made this 13 year old the assassin the murderer you know anything with this

1:13:20because this this the the the one that’s acting as a which i mean they

1:13:26they go into different sections obviously but but it’s all the anger that they’ve

1:13:31encapsulated and enhanced with satanic anger and nephilim anger

1:13:38and so when she kills that baby it is with it is with the most horrific

1:13:45hatred that becomes part of her life and and

1:13:50i’ve had other survivors report to me that when they killed the baby they were

1:13:56wearing jewels um inherited jewels like like

1:14:04in the the family jewels so i said oh is it the ramen off so because

1:14:11this she’s she’s anastasia in 1944 this whole hitler project that

1:14:17you and i spoke about the first time um she’s part of that project

1:14:22and so the jewels that she was wearing is the ramen of jewels and every little 13 year old in that

1:14:29bloodline part of that project would put on the jewels at 13

1:14:35it’s rings it’s it’s very expensive diamonds and gold and

1:14:41and so this little 13 year old is dressed up and and it’s ballroom i mean it’s

1:14:47ballroom gowns and and and you’ve got people in in the upper stairs

1:14:53watching this whole thing like a theater and and she’s being led down the

1:15:00steps with all these jewels and then as she kills she’s got to kill in such a way

1:15:07that there’s lots of blood that the blood splashes onto the jewels so that she’s the next

1:15:13generation that is in line that is hating god

1:15:19that makes a choice against god that is part of the antichrist system

1:15:25and and then the the jewels it’s so important that the jewels have to be

1:15:30splashed with blood and that then gives her that that

1:15:36authority and the the ranking for her then to move into the adulthood of of starting

1:15:44to hurt other children um killing um assassins or whatever the the

1:15:52assignment is but they move then into into really being

1:15:57very very dangerous um attacking they have been trained so well to attack

1:16:04ministries to attack to come into our bedrooms um to astral in well astral they

1:16:13they teleport in and um come and do their thing you know come

1:16:18and attack you um send all sorts of things at you um so they are so well trained

1:16:26so this 13 year old is key it’s it’s probably of the last parts

1:16:32that that you get to so you know that once you’ve reached the 13 year old because she’s the most hidden

1:16:40she’s the most angry and she is the mother that gives birth

1:16:47to the nephilim child um and and that sets her apart and gives

1:16:52her that ranking as well so so at 13 year old she’s the mother and

1:16:59um there’s there’s just so many layered things that have to be removed

1:17:05you know when you pray and they go through the the ritual where they were upside down crucified upside

1:17:12down where they had um where there was this guy that was killed um while he was being

1:17:21killed she’s having sex with him it’s the most bizarre stuff um that they

1:17:28get exposed to in this 13 year it’s all the 13 year old

1:17:33ritual so it is really key really key and then the five hour walls

1:17:40um it’s it’s as isaiah 14 and um you know we where lucifer himself

1:17:48makes the declarations i will rise above i will you know put my throne above

1:17:55and so the the the 13 year old comes in agreement with that

1:18:00and it’s open total rebellion and so they re they get the the the

1:18:07actual character of lucifer and well satan it’s either lucifer is the angel of

1:18:15light or satan in all his death and and um you know death

1:18:23you know you don’t have another word for him um another important thing i feel prison what

1:18:29dan you you speak about often are the scrolls the scrolls of your life and

1:18:35what happens at conception because they’ve planned so well around the sperm and the ovum

1:18:42and they bring that together there’s this demonic scroll that gets red over your life

1:18:50and then at 13 it’s the scroll again and do you agree

1:18:57do you agree are you now with your own free will that which happened at conception when

1:19:04you were created now do you agree that this is your life and as a 13 year

1:19:12old the agreement comes and that is when they take legal ground go to the word

1:19:20where the bible says now what you’ve chosen you’re going to be the consequences and so um that’s how they play the game

1:19:29you know to hold the bible against you to hold god against you so you have witnesses against you

1:19:34there’s judgments of god against you but it’s like you know

1:19:40they they just have that attitude of of satan

1:19:46and i i if i just can jump in here a little uh what i remember in one of

1:19:52your previous interviews one of the questions that was posted on youtube was how

1:20:01how is it possible that they allow you to get out of the cult and i just want

1:20:08to set very straight that they the cults are not almighty they are not

1:20:16god they are not yahweh elohim and

1:20:21god has the final say and i believe that there is a way out for

1:20:29every survivor how well programmed you are what what level of ranking you

1:20:37are there is always a way out and and i i know that

1:20:44for me i was so convinced that i i wasn’t able to be saved because

1:20:52i killed what i believe was the part of me that gave my heart to

1:20:59yeshua so i i thought i wasn’t being able to be saved anymore

1:21:05but god always has a way out he had he he knew

1:21:13before adam and eve sinned he already had salvation plan ready because he knew

1:21:19that they were going to do that and that they needed a way out and and it’s the same with with with me

1:21:26and people like me when you believe that there is no way out then just look up and and and

1:21:33and see that god has set the road before you because there is a way out

1:21:38and and he is the one that is almighty and having said that

1:21:45because if you just want to put up the picture number five

1:21:51what what is the trick and the way that they deceive you and they trick you is that

1:22:01they make you believe that you as the new birth identity

1:22:08are not the same as the 13 year old who makes that decision to kill the new

1:22:13birth identity they make you think it’s a is it’s a different person with a different body

1:22:21and that is where the deception is and that is why the d.i.d is so strong and

1:22:28what was very key for me is i needed to learn that

1:22:36the baby that had to crawl its way out of the mother’s womb is the

1:22:42same has the same body as the body who gave her life to yeshua

1:22:51at one year old it is the same body who chose against god at 13 year old

1:22:59it’s the same body who had 26 year old married with the nephilim sun and

1:23:07and yes there are different parts in that body but it is the same body so if you want

1:23:14to show the picture once more i just want to explain it if you see this tower this is the tower

1:23:21of babel it’s it’s a pretty standard program that they put in

1:23:26in in the survivors what you see is on the at the bottom you see this baby lying

1:23:35and out of this baby the it this baby is the foundation

1:23:41of the tower that is being built and all the way up you see that kind of

1:23:46naked lady sitting on the on a throne and that is the queen

1:23:52let’s say the 26 year old that is being put in a in a cult has a

1:23:59position of power it is birthing all the all the illuminati plants

1:24:06over the world like like all the rage and old evil and the plants of let’s say

1:24:13corona you know it’s being birthed by these kind of queens over the earth and this queen that is

1:24:21sitting there on top of the world is having a nice life she is being worshipped

1:24:31by the kings of the earth she is being worshipped by the other lower level

1:24:40women in the cult she is uh holding a position of power

1:24:46so she is in her mind pretty well off and when you tell her

1:24:55that she comes from this baby she would be disgusted she would say i want nothing to do with

1:25:02that baby but that is where where

1:25:07i as a survivor but as a counselor you have to show the survivor that that

1:25:14that she’s been tricked and been deceived and the moment that i

1:25:20realized in my parts that i am just being given a place of

1:25:28power and position and and and that to do their evil plans but at the same time a part of my

1:25:35humanity is suffering and is still stuck in a place of death because

1:25:41i want to hold a place of power when i realized that that is the same

1:25:46body and ultimately the same person because god made me as one person he

1:25:52never meant me to be scattered into all these thousands of of pieces

1:25:59and and when i started to realize that that is when it had it was able to come

1:26:06together and that is where if if you want to show the last picture that is the whole counseling process

1:26:14that happens you you have the baby that that gave her

1:26:19heart to yeshua and and you have the 13 year old you have 26 year olds you know all those seals

1:26:25that are being being put up and um

1:26:30yeah if you have this picture and then go to the next picture yes you see that from this new

1:26:37birth identity you you see the 13 year old you see the first crown the 26 year old and it goes

1:26:44all the way whatever age the survivor is now if you think of these

1:26:52arrows and you put them the other way that is the counseling process you take

1:26:59the age of the body you take the parts you take the 26 year old and you go backwards and you go and you find

1:27:08that baby that is wrapped in death that may that chose yeshua and then

1:27:15when they become one that is where healing comes that is because

1:27:22yeshua jesus he never left that little baby the 13 months old

1:27:28and when my parts were saying well jesus left me jesus is the one he abandoned me

1:27:36then i would amanda would ask yeshua to show the

1:27:41truth and what really happened is that i abandoned myself

1:27:47i was the one who couldn’t handle the torture so i split off and i mean i don’t have to blame myself

1:27:53for this but i split off because i couldn’t handle the torture and i i i started to live a parallel

1:28:00life to to who i really am and yeshua state he was there in the

1:28:08torture he was there and he didn’t leave and i was the one who escaped from myself

1:28:15and when that started to kick in that truth

1:28:20i had to learn that i had to go back to that baby that was wrapped in death and had to

1:28:27i mean i had to hold it every extension of myself as a 13 year old as a 26 year old as a

1:28:3434 year old whatever age i had to go back to these steps

1:28:40and find that baby that was captured in death and every time another layer of death

1:28:46was taken off this baby until i finally had it and

1:28:51and that is where my healing started to pour and

1:28:58and where i got to that place what i was saying in the beginning that

1:29:04relationship with god that that i didn’t i didn’t have that honest and pure relationship

1:29:10and now i can i can say i mean i’m not there yet where i want to be

1:29:16but i know god in a way that i’ve never known him before and i would go through this all over

1:29:24again if i knew that that that this would be the end result

1:29:30and i mean i know there’s i’m not even there yet there’s much more that i can learn about who god is and

1:29:36how who yeshua is and that is what it’s all about it’s

1:29:41you know it’s i know all these information it’s interesting and and people who do not know about this

1:29:48it’s it’s it’s interesting and and exciting to hear about this mermaid stuff and and

1:29:55and the cloning and and that and i understand that but for me that has never been

1:30:02what it is about for me it’s been that my life can glorify god and can

1:30:08glorify yeshua and if that means that i had to

1:30:14get to that horrible knowledge of what it meant for me to become a mermaid

1:30:20what i had to do what i had to go through um

1:30:26that that is you do that you do it not because you want to because

1:30:32but because you have to because otherwise you won’t be able to

1:30:37to um let your life truly be in for god’s honor

1:30:46how amanda

1:30:53yeah dan i think i think chris has explained it very well um what i what i’d like to

1:31:00just underline is we have found through the years and i mean this was our own journey too

1:31:07is that many times you don’t know what to do with the parts you really don’t know how to bring the

1:31:13healing and when you do integration and you know what happens in the process because

1:31:20there’s so much so many layering so many parts and anyway so

1:31:25um when the lord showed us that if you don’t get to the baby there’s no closure so let’s say for

1:31:33example chris’s adult parts her extension parts would come forward

1:31:38and um you know some queen or some witch or whatever part would present

1:31:44and then um we would have a conversation you know and i’d say well um you know

1:31:50you you’re not really a queen and she’d be very upset and then i’d explain

1:31:56that you you belong to a human body you connected with through the silver cord and um we would go through the whole

1:32:03process and eventually i’d explain to you you’re tied up in second heaven and um you’ve

1:32:10been deceived and you’ve been you’re serving a loser and um you know that when you go to battle

1:32:18um who sends who sends a woman first who sends a whole woman army into

1:32:24battle first and and and the main guy he’s at the back because he’s a womp

1:32:30he’s too afraid to go first i said to god i serve yeshua

1:32:35he rides first he takes the battle he he he heads up you know he’s the he’s

1:32:42the captain of the hosts he rides ahead he doesn’t use human shields and

1:32:48why why does satan send you you to go and fight for him you know anyway

1:32:54we we talked this through and then looks like wow you know that’s true um so

1:33:00anyway we get to a point where we say okay third heaven is yeshua feel the frequency and second

1:33:08heaven and feel the death it’s totally a different frequency and then um yeshua would come introduce

1:33:15himself you know whatever the lord does but you lead this part um you know

1:33:21to you sure you you show the deception and this part actually has to make up

1:33:27their own mind it’s their own free will choice and then they say okay no i don’t want to serve a loser i don’t want to be

1:33:34you know um are used as a human shield i i don’t want to be lied to you anymore

1:33:40this is enough so then i say okay what you have to do is lay all your weapons

1:33:45everything your ranking your armor your weapons your accolades

1:33:52your pips whatever it is that you’ve received getting where you are you’re going to

1:33:57put it all at the feet of yeshua are you prepared to do that yeah sure so then they lay it down you

1:34:03know take off the robes the mantles the rings the whatever it is who you know in their

1:34:10position put it at the feet of yeshua and then i say okay are you prepared that yeshua

1:34:15burns it with his fire now because it’s no going back yep no okay we’ll do that

1:34:21so now they’ve accepted yeshua and a lot of councillors stopped there

1:34:28and they don’t they if you stop there then you have so much humanity because

1:34:34you’ve you’ve got a whole timeline that you’ve worked with now but you only were taking the

1:34:40adult part that is that is such a little bit of the full timeline and you’re leading that

1:34:48part to yeshua and you’re saying i’m done now and that’s the old way that’s what we

1:34:53used to do but you can’t stop there and that’s where the lord showed us that you’ve got

1:35:00to you’ve got to take from age of the body so chris is 34

1:35:05so at least she doesn’t have more stars at least you know the higher the stars the more difficult

1:35:11it is to undo all the layers and so so chris is only 34 hallelujah so now we

1:35:18go age of the body 34 all the parts who know yeshua come come together now go with yeshua the

1:35:26the christian presenter as well and that you go to 26 year old which is

1:35:31the wife down to 13 year old which is the mother now now we go and we’re going

1:35:37to find the baby this is the baby where you come from so of course in the beginning

1:35:42it’s difficult i can’t believe it i don’t come from a baby so we all come from a baby so we have to

1:35:49find the baby because they’ve done something to the baby to make you this queen that is sitting on the top of

1:35:57the tower of babel that is birthing all this you doing all the dirty work for the for

1:36:02for the cult for the new world order for the illuminati you are birthing all of the stuff all

1:36:08over the world through the portals you doing the dirty work but to get you to that position as queen

1:36:15you started as a baby so if we don’t find the baby we’re not going to get closure

1:36:21and and i have i’ve done this with so many survivors and they all

1:36:26tell you the same story that if you leave them just there as an adult and you don’t bring closure

1:36:33to the whole timeline they they still hanging and they are

1:36:38still accessible the enemy can still access them and use them in the cult

1:36:44and so you take that so you gather up all of them and then you get down to the

1:36:50new birth identity where the key is because that’s where yeshua is and that’s where the promise is because

1:36:57it was because of his promise i will never leave you that’s why we can work in this

1:37:02in this ministry and and we are able to do the deliverance because of him

1:37:07because of what yeshua has done because the price jesus paid because of his blood

1:37:12and so you you then you go back to conception right back to conception identity why

1:37:19because at conception identity they were one they were the one god made originally

1:37:24before trauma they were one before there was dust the gold dust that went all over

1:37:30through the trauma before that they were one and that starts at conception identity

1:37:36and so we gather up conception identity the time of being frozen the time of

1:37:41being scattered all over going in the motherships going in the craft

1:37:46going into the um into the portals you gather up gather up gather up

1:37:52and from conception identity bring it forward into new birth and from age of the body bring it down

1:37:58down down down down you know 26 13 year old dumped your new birth

1:38:03so now we’re all standing around new birth identity now we say okay you see the baby

1:38:12this is where you come from it’s your timeline you ended up as the queen over babylon but the baby

1:38:20what did they do with the baby you wait because this is the key you have to give

1:38:26lots of time here you must be patient and then if they can’t see

1:38:31we pray yeshua open show them the baby show draw the curtain open shine your

1:38:37light let them see the baby and normally the baby’s in a state of death um the baby is the eyes of the babies

1:38:44closed um i had the one baby just in the week that i was ministering

1:38:50to a client that her baby was in flames was just flames

1:38:57but the adult was working with the power of the phoenix

1:39:03can you see the timeline connection so you’ve got the phoenix with the adult

1:39:08working in power of the fire with with the phoenix but you’ve got the baby

1:39:15burning in fire the whole time so i explained to you i said while you are the queen at the top with all the

1:39:21power on the other side of the id is the one in constant 24 7

1:39:28pain and suffering you have the power because the baby was suffering

1:39:34and then we go and we release the baby and then i ask yeshua to to take the baby and to throw living

1:39:41water over the the flames to quench those the flames or the one the one was um

1:39:48a queen that was of the underworld and in the water

1:39:53and she had a crown on her head and we tried to take she tried to take the crown off to put it at the feet of

1:39:59yeshua she couldn’t get it off and then she i said okay how many spokes are around

1:40:06the crown how many spikes do you have she said eight

1:40:12i said okay so those are the queens that serve you yes so i said you nine in your cluster

1:40:19you know yes when we eventually got to the baby

1:40:24the baby had an octopus on the head and had kept the baby in the in the

1:40:31under in the water grave while she was the queen

1:40:37in the waters with a crown but there was an octopus that was actually with the eight

1:40:44legs it was the eight spokes and and the brain of the octopus was was the main

1:40:50crown so it is fascinating you know i can give you so many examples

1:40:57of working on timelines you get the adult whatever queen or whatever they

1:41:03represent follow that timeline down down down and find the baby and see what have

1:41:09they done with that baby and when yeshua blesses the baby and he brings the baby back to life

1:41:17and and the and the adult part that’s now just accepted yeshua takes that baby

1:41:24and picks up the baby and i say this is you this is where you come from and they take the baby and they push the

1:41:31baby against their heart and i say that’s where the baby belongs

1:41:37because you separated from the baby ask the baby’s forgiveness you went off and became a queen while

1:41:43the baby was suffering all the time now you hold that baby

1:41:49and and and every time press you can just quickly share here but what happens is when you hold that baby

1:41:56integration of the whole timeline takes place and uh and the cult has lost their hold

1:42:04no more did drd of that timeline is over they’ve integrated

1:42:12they’ve become one and no more access and so that’s why you’ve got to do a

1:42:18timeline after timeline of the timeline whoever represents as an adult you have

1:42:24to farm the baby otherwise there’s no closure and chris maybe you can explain

1:42:30being stuck just knowing jesus but not getting to the baby

1:42:38yeah i think that is just um it’s that moment where as um

1:42:46as the adult in the did systems for example the queen

1:42:52really needs to get to a place where she wants to see where she comes from and

1:42:58it’s always yeshua who does that it’s i know that i have been in a discussion with amanda

1:43:07you know i could we could be discussing for 20 or 30 minutes or even longer and then at some point

1:43:13amanda would be just like you know what we just ask yeshua and and

1:43:20and then yeshua would just come in with his wisdom or he would show something

1:43:27and then this this queen in me would see the baby and would know

1:43:34this is where i come from and if i want to stay in touch with yeshua

1:43:42i have to go back to this baby because yeshua is with this baby because

1:43:49and that is something that that got me every time again it’s it’s that queen that walked

1:43:55away from the baby and and from yeshua and yeshua he he loves the whole system

1:44:03so he he shows up and he talks to the queen but he tells the queen he doesn’t say

1:44:10the baby he doesn’t say to the baby you have to become the queen

1:44:16he says to the queen you humble yourself

1:44:21and you get on your knees and hold that baby and take care of that baby

1:44:27and and and then when they are uh closer to to each other what i

1:44:33always would say it’s like as if i would be in this queen part of

1:44:39myself it’s like i would see this hole in my heart it would look like a keyhole

1:44:45and that little baby would exactly have the shape of that

1:44:51hole in my heart and and yeshua would show me this baby

1:44:58belongs in your heart but you are the only one who can take it and put it there you

1:45:04have to do it and and that is how how i

1:45:09as this queen would be able to go down and i mean it takes time it’s it’s you have to learn this it’s not easy but

1:45:16eventually i would always be able to pick up that baby and put it in my heart and that is where

1:45:22that timeline becomes one one time one

1:45:31history and and they do this with many queens what i said there are many timelines but

1:45:37um there is an end to it it’s not something that you will do eternally but

1:45:43yeah that’s so good that is so good um wow

1:45:52priscilla amanda i want to thank you for taking the time to sit down with me uh drop some knowledge

1:46:00i i really appreciate the both of you and i know our listening audience does too even if

1:46:06they are still trying to figure out what they just heard and thinking how many times am i

1:46:11have to press replay on this one to get it all in

1:46:17that’s why we do a podcast you can listen to this as many times as you want

1:46:22folks i um so appreciate you guys and uh by the way folks amanda and her husband have a

1:46:29website kananministries.org k-a-n-a-a-n ministries dot org that you

1:46:37can check out if you want to see what they have available in so far as tools and resources and with that said

1:46:46guys until next time god bless

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S3E39 | J.R. SWEET – OPERATIONAL CIA MONARCH MIND SLAVE ON DISNEY, LDS CHURCH, & MK ULTRA SECRET OPS and transcript

2023 jul 24 S3E39 | J.R. Sweet – Operational CIA MONARCH Mind Slave on Disney, LDS Church, & MK ULTRA Secret Ops [1b]

This week I’m thrilled to introduce to you yet another male survivor who has been speaking out. After saying just a short while ago that there needs to be more men willing to step up and expose the criminal cabal trafficking and abusing our children, I began meeting male survivors who reached out via email as well as discovering them on other podcasts. This week’s guest has an incredible story and I’m honored he chose to share time with us on the show. Introducing, Operational CIA MONARCH mind slave, overcomer, blogger, husband, father, whistleblower and walking miracle, J.R Sweet!

Like many survivors you’ve heard on the show, J.R. lived his conscious life believing he grew up in a normal household environment with a normal family. What J.R. would come to find out as an adult 2017 when he began having memory recall completely shook his world in discovering the narrative he had always told himself about his family couldn’t be further from the truth.

J.R. grew up in a multi-generational incestual satanic and Mormon family bloodline who’s lineages trace back to King Henry the 8th and he didn’t begin to recall his and his family’s involvement with the CIA’s MK Ultra mind control program until he was 38. Without giving too much away, I will say that if you are familiar with former podcast guest, Cathy O’Brien’s story – you will see a lot of parallels that run through J.R’s testimony as well. Since awakening to his abuse and the truth about his family, he began an incredible blog titled ‘The Mormon Monarch’ where he shares harrowing details about his life and past. I highly recommend you guys check this blog out – you can head to www.MormonMonarch.com to learn more – I’ll have this linked in the show notes and encourage you all to go support J.R.’s work!

J.R.’s story is jam-packed with information and I suggest you grab a pen and paper and shut off whatever you’re doing and give him your full attention. The amount of courage it takes for a survivor or these horrific atrocities cannot be understated. And with the stigma around men and abuse, we really need to show our support and stand behind and next to the men who are willing to be on the forefront of exposing these crimes against children while breaking generational abuse cycles and stigmas. J.R. is a hero.

Before I finish introducing our guest – I wanted to give a reminder that if you are a survivor or whistleblower who wants to share your story on the podcast or wants to share any information privately with me, you can now email me at IMAGINEABETTERWORLD2020@GMAIL.COM! Please send me a briefing of who you are and how I can support you whether it’s through podcasting or sharing information. I also just started a Substack that you can support at www.EmmaKatherine.Substack.com. Here I will be doing weekly recaps and insights on my podcast and using this as a place to publicly journal my journey as an advocate for our children. All my social, email and project links can also be found in the show notes and as always – I’m so grateful for all your support.

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Transcript

heavenly father today we put on the full armor  to protect us against attack we put on the belt  

0:08of Truth to protect against lies and deception  we put on the breastplate of righteousness to  

0:13protect our hearts from The Temptations we put  the gospel of peace on our feet to walk in your  

0:19light Peace and Freedom with the Holy Spirit we  rebuke anxious thoughts we take up your Shield  

0:25of faith for protection to block and destroy all  the darts and threats thrown at us by the enemy we  

0:30put on the helmet of salvation to cover our minds  and thoughts reminding us that we are children of   a mighty king we are forgiven set free safe by  the blood of Jesus we take up the sword of the  

0:42spirit your living word that has the power to  demolish strongholds and is sharper than any   double-edged sword we come to you Lord in prayer  daily in Jesus mighty name we pray amen amen  

0:54what’s up you guys welcome to the imagination  I’m your host Emma and this week I’m thrilled  

1:00to introduce to you yet another male Survivor  who has been speaking out after saying just a  

1:05short while ago that there needs to be more men  willing to step up and expose the criminal cabal   trafficking and abusing our children I began  meeting male survivors suddenly who reached out  

1:15via email as well as discovering them on other  podcasts this week’s guest has an incredible  

1:20story and I’m honored he chose to share with us  on the show introducing operational CIA Monarch  

1:27mind slave Overcomer blogger husband father  whistleblower and walking Miracle J.R Suite  

1:35like money survivors you’ve heard on the show  Jr lived his conscious life believing he grew  

1:40up in a normal household environment with a pretty  normal family what Jr would soon come to find out  

1:46as an adult in 2017 when he began having memory  recall completely shook his world in discovering  

1:52the narrative he had always told himself about his  family couldn’t be further from the truth Jr grew  

1:58up in a multi-generational ancestral satanic and  Mormon family bloodline whose lineages actually  

2:04traced back to King Henry VII and he didn’t begin  to recall his and his family’s involvement with  

2:09the cia’s MKUltra mind control program until  he was 38. without giving too much away I will  

2:15say that if you are familiar with former podcast  guest Kathy O’Brien’s story you will see a lot of  

2:20parallels that run through Jr’s testimony as well  since Awakening 2 is abuse and the truth about  

2:26his family he began an incredible blog titled the  Mormon Monarch where he shares harrowing details  

2:33about his life and past I highly recommend  you guys check his blog out if you head to

2:39www.mormonmonarch.com I’ll have this listed in  the show notes and really encourage you all to  

2:45go support Jr’s work Jr’s story is jam-packed  with information and I also suggest you grab a  

2:52pen and paper and shut off whatever you’re  doing and give him your full attention the   amount of Courage it takes for a survivor of these  horrific atrocities to come forth and speak their  

3:02truth cannot be understated and with the stigma  around men and abuse we really need to show our  

3:07support and stand behind and next to the men who  are willing to be on the Forefront of exposing   these crimes against children while breaking  General abuse cycles and stigmas Jr in this  

3:18sense is a hero before I finish introducing Our  Guest I want to give a reminder that if you are a  

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3:54and using this as a place to publicly Journal  my journey as an advocate for our children on my  

4:00social email and project links can also be found  in the show notes and as always I’m so grateful   for all of your support so you guys without  further Ado please help me in welcoming this  

4:09week’s guest of honor Monarch Survivor voice  for the voiceless advocate for our children   and generational circuit breaker J.R sweet Jr  thank you so much for being here with me today  

4:21thank you Emma thank you for having me it’s an  honor I appreciate it yeah it’s great to be here  

4:28I appreciate the opportunity yeah it’s good to  get the message out to the people on what’s going  

4:34on so I appreciate it I know and I appreciate  you I know that these these topics can be very  

4:41triggering and they’re very hard to talk about and  people like you hand off the torch to other people  

4:47who see your light and then it gives them courage  to talk so it’s not easy being on the Forefront  

4:52of this and I really do appreciate that you were  and are willing to talk about this because I know   it’s so hard and stressful on you also um so I’d  love to actually hear and maybe let’s talk to the  

5:03guests about why did you start speaking out you  know we’ll get into your story but what was your  

5:09inspiration for actually wanting to go public  with all this information because I’m sure you   had a lot to lose I’m sure you were targeted I’m  sure that it hasn’t been the easiest thing for you  

5:18to come out and talk about this publicly and I’d  love to hear your inspiration behind your mission  

5:24yeah yeah thank you it hasn’t been  very easy and I have lost a lot  

5:31um of in that sense uh when I remembered  things that I was remembering about my past  

5:41um I was living in Idaho at that time I was  raised in around Idaho in Idaho and in Salt  

5:48Lake born in Oregon and so all over the west  and in 2017 when I started to remember things  

5:57um it was I realized I was not  in a good situation where I lived  

6:05um and so I had to to move and leave Idaho that  was in 2020 but you did a really good introduction  

6:14um I appreciate that thank you so I want to  start where um with my family with with where  

6:22I come from um and how I came to be here and  so the reason that I’m speaking out is because  

6:31because the things that I began to remember  in 2017 were so awful and so overwhelming uh  

6:39in in what I was remembering had happened in my  life that I felt compelled to speak how it seems  

6:49inevitable that if you have any kind of a moral  standing you would speak out on these things it’s  

6:56just how it how it should be um they have killed  me before through Monarch programming and that was  

7:04for suicide programming and so I I was dead for  for a short period And I went to the other side  

7:11and I feel like that impacts my reasoning for  speaking out as well because I know that when  

7:18we leave this earth we go somewhere somewhere  much more beautiful and wonderful than this  

7:24place and we’ll see a lot of the folks we knew in  this life and so to me it’s a it’s a message that  

7:32just needs to be shared but I come from I am a  survivor of the Central Intelligence agencies  

7:38trauma-based mind control program I was raised  in a generationally abusive family a satanic  

7:46family bloodline essentially my family reaches  back as you mentioned to King Henry VII and  

7:55and that’s something my family was always proud of  that I was always aware of uh throughout my life  

8:01every day always talked about it and we’re proud  of that fact um and my grandfather that’s really  

8:09where I feel like the Central Intelligence Agency  comes into my life is through my grandfather and  

8:15through my uncle and Handler and my grandfather  he was a Marine in World War II and he became  

8:26involved while he was in the Marine Corps uh  with with various individuals involved with  

8:34things revolving around the mind they would use  them for various things such as carrying messages  

8:40he worked for a colonel for a while and so he was  a courier he would carry messages and he’d be made  

8:47to memorize them and my grandfather was abused as  a child in my mind that’s how I perceive that and  

8:54that’s partly what was wrong with him he ran  away when he was 13 years old and so he had  

9:00a pretty rough go of life and then the war on  top of that he was a Marine Corps scout sniper  

9:07um and so it was pretty hard on him but after the  war he survived the war and he he joined uh he  

9:18worked for the Union Pacific Railroad the Union  Pacific Railroad has a history of of Nefarious  

9:24Deeds within the upper echelon of that company  you can find that research in various books  

9:32um but he worked for Union Pacific and in  that time he would in his own journaling he  

9:40talks about being a Union Pacific and a group of  well-dressed suits coming in he’d been called into  

9:48the corporate office and they wanted to talk to  him and I believe that something happened at that  

9:54time where he was pulled back into the military  in some way and he was involved with the Central  

9:59Intelligence Agency and the Monarch program for  quite a ways back I’m not exactly sure how far  

10:07back Emma but it goes back a long way and he knew  such people as Walt Disney for example who was  

10:16connected to Monarch programming and trauma-based  mind control um and so my grandfather brought it  

10:24into the family in my mind my grandfather also  played the role this is a little strange and  

10:30hard for people to get their head around but we  only know what we’re told and so if for example  

10:36someone dies in the media do you really know  that they’re dead or is that just what you were  

10:43told and so for example my grandfather he was Jim  Reeves he played that role in the country music  

10:50industry and then when they were done with that  character for whatever reason I’m not entirely  

10:56sure he was killed that character was killed  off and my grandfather lived another life as  

11:03as the individual that he was I suppose he was a  multiple and he had lots of his own own problems  

11:12um and we’ll go through some of that but so it  comes through my family and then my uncle and  

11:18CIA Handler uh he was a close Uncle Gail Pooley  and he he was my Handler and very close member of  

11:27our family and he brought it to the family as well  I’m not entirely sure about how that relationship  

11:34all came together but so I was selected uh because  of my ability to dissociate um we were tested as  

11:46children tested by a man named Alex Houston to um  test us for our ability to disassociate and that  

11:57took place at my grandfather and grandmother’s  house outside of Nampa Idaho at Lake Lowell and  

12:05and that was that was a pretty pretty traumatic  little ordeal there we were each taken Alex  

12:14Houston came out to the house see my grandparents  had gone to Disneyland and for the for the week  

12:22as a as a vacation a romantic vacation for  them to Southern California and Disneyland  

12:28and what they were really there for was they were  getting um they were getting told and taught how

12:43and so while they were away to Disneyland  getting their their training on how to  

12:49raise children in the project we were at my  grandparents home staying there for the week and  

12:57um they had a guy coming out to entertain us  kids and so we were all waiting and you know  

13:04as little kids we were excited this guy had  a dummy doll thing that he was going to show   us you know and and do a little show for us  and and so he came up the drive finally it  

13:15was evening and he he did a little show for us  Alex and um what Elmer I want to say his dummy  

13:23yeah and they did this show for us and then after  the show they said that they wanted to do a test  

13:30they wanted to do something with us kids and so  each one of us was taken back into a room there  

13:38with Alex and we were tested for our ability  to dissociate and so what that entailed is  

13:46um we were taken back there one by one  first of all and my sister was first  

13:51and they had in the room a box that had a  hand in it it was a separate human hand and

14:01they just opened it so my sister went back  there and she what what the thing was was  

14:09would you dissociate and so my sister screamed  when she went back there and they showed it to  

14:15her and then my older brother he was taken  back and he screamed when he saw the human  

14:22hand he didn’t dissociate and then when I  was taken back I didn’t scream I saw the hand  

14:29and I just dissociated from the situation I  was there with my grandfather and his friend  

14:37I just dissociated and so I was taken back  and so I was selected for trauma-based mind  

14:44control programming sponsored by the Central  Intelligence Agency because there’s a lot of  

14:50people doing it not just the CIA the satanic what  I call the satanical leader also doing it really  

14:57rich people will we consider to be the elite a  lot of them now I’m not saying all I don’t know  

15:05that for sure but what I witnessed was a lot of  them are involved with Satanism and trauma-based  

15:12mind control they put their own kids through it  and so that was the test that we were put through  

15:20uh there at my grandparents house and so I was  selected at the age of five and then the next year  

15:26we began our trauma-based mind control programming  at the Disneyland facility in Anaheim California  

15:35there’s a lot of human human bio programming  trauma-based mind control programming going  

15:41on at Disneyland in Anaheim California I realized  how crazy that sounds but that’s what’s going on  

15:49it the best place to hide something is in plain  sight and so in Disneyland underneath that park  

15:58there are various tunnels and rooms and areas  set up specifically for Monarch programming for  

16:07doing things like filming Kitty porn killing  people human trafficking holding people there  

16:15for use by the agency or other individuals I’m  not entirely sure who else on that but there’s  

16:25a lot going on there and so we every year we’d go  there well not every year I take that back there  

16:33were a couple years we didn’t go I believe and  so I don’t I don’t know Emma how many times I’ve  

16:39been to Disneyland so many times that it it just  every year that’s where we went on family vacation  

16:47um but there was a lot of programming  that took place there I’ve been able to   work through uh my year there in 84 and  my year there in 93 or 95 I forget which  

17:02and so it’s been a lot of work though working  through those those events and those years and  

17:09so I’ll keep working on them and try to get  through them all but there’s a lot there to   work through and so I started to remember  all these awful things taking place in 2017  

17:24um which sent me on this journey to understand  what had happened to me and how I had gotten to  

17:31where I was and Disneyland was part of it because  my wife would ask me you know why can’t you  

17:38remember things about this or that and I couldn’t  tell her a whole lot about our trips to Disneyland  

17:45um and so she noticed that I had memory  issues as far as my past goes and so  

17:53um things like that really started to  push me into exploring what was going on  

18:00um I feel like I should talk about that a  little bit how I came to the point where I  

18:05was where I’m at now does that make sense Emma  yes absolutely yeah let’s do that and then we  

18:13can you know is your connection going okay yeah  it’s good okay my connection’s acting up pretty  

18:20bad and so I’m trying to make sure that you can  still hear me yep I can hear you okay very cool  

18:28yeah so you know Disneyland was a huge part of  our Lives growing up and I didn’t understand the  

18:36context of that until around 2017 when  I started to work through these things  

18:42and so one of the things that pushed me through  even wanting to know what had happened to me in  

18:50my past um was the fact that I felt like something  was wrong in my life because life was really Emma  

19:00pretty good like I had have a beautiful wonderful  wife we have beautiful children we had land in  

19:06Idaho it was a beautiful place and a beautiful  place to be in life but I felt like something was  

19:13wrong all the time in my mind I felt like there  was it’s difficult to explain and my wife noticed  

19:20this as well and one of the things that really was  a catalyst though and so I started to feel like  

19:30something was just a little bit wrong but I also  began to understand I couldn’t remember things  

19:36and so one of the catalysts of that was uh  that Charlie Pride you maybe have heard me  

19:43talk about it before seen it in my website  Charlie Pride I went to that Charlie Pride  

19:48show with my grandparents when I was a teenager  and for the life of me the way that I remembered  

19:56it initially up until 2017 when I started to work  through it I did not meet Charlie Pride I did not  

20:04meet that man he was backstage and I never talked  to him and when my wife and I were talking about  

20:12the picture that he signed it blew me away that  he had actually signed it because in my mind he  

20:20hadn’t signed it we got an autographed picture  there at the show and in my mind only oh two  

20:27maybe three individuals had signed it from the  band but not Charlie and so when my wife said  

20:32no Johnny Charlie signed that picture and I went  and I found it and it was signed it was up in our  

20:39attic it blew me away I was like oh my goodness I  just could not believe it how could it be that I  

20:46couldn’t remember meeting this man he was a famous  country musicianist why wouldn’t I remember that  

20:53and so when I understood that that I  couldn’t remember things I thought well  

20:59it was a hard thing to do Emma but I thought to  myself I need to see a therapist that’s a hard  

21:05thing to accept as an individual that you need to  see a therapist because something’s wrong but I  

21:12made that choice I said something is wrong and  so I started seeing a therapist and I started  

21:18working through it unfortunately I wasn’t able  to see her for very long because uh the things  

21:23that would happen when I’d come to see her uh it  just started to scare her and the things that I  

21:30was talking about she didn’t it was just way  over her head she was this sweet sweet older  

21:36lady this older Christian lady and and it just  it was too much for her really all of it and so I  

21:44was only able to see her for a short time yeah  which was unfortunate but she helped me a lot  

21:51she helped me to work through that first barrier  because in in Monarch programming you hit walls  

21:58you hit walls and they’re difficult to go through  and it takes something to push you sometimes  

22:04through that wall and so that’s really that leads  right into the premise of Monarch programming  

22:12which is dissociation and the creation of multiple  personalities within an individual and so that’s  

22:20the whole point of all of that I don’t know if  we’ve said that another thing I’d like to say just   so folks are aware as we’re talking about these  things we may cover some things that are triggers  

22:31um I don’t know if you warned anyone of that  yet or not but that might be something people  

22:36need to pay attention to so that there  will be triggers in our conversation  

22:42so I started seeing a therapist and and um  started to work through all my memories and  

22:50tried to understand clearly what I had uh  what had happened to me when I was a child  

22:57and what I started to find was just  mind-blowing Emma it just blew me away  

23:03and one day I came home and my wife she was and  she was down taking a walk and I ran down to her  

23:11on her walk there on our property and I said babe  babe this is really weird but you’re married to uh  

23:19CIA Sleeper Agent a CIA sleeper assassin I said  this is really it really freaked me out because  

23:30of the things that I was remembering and one of  the ways that I was able to start working through  

23:36these things really the therapist helped a lot  Emma but what really helped was journaling it out  

23:43I read some of Kathy O’Brien’s work I haven’t  read it all um seems to me like she’s a wonderful  

23:50individual and I think very highly of her but  her work is really interesting and really well  

23:58done and so I read her first book and some of  so when I thought I saw a therapist and started  

24:06to understand that something was wrong and we  started to work through it after that period  

24:12of time started I started looking into Kathy’s  work and one of the things that really blew me  

24:18away in Kathy’s work were the correlations and so  for example there’s a part in Kathy’s book where  

24:26she talks about being programmed to be a message  Courier by someone sticking a knife in her chest  

24:34and the first night I read this I didn’t it didn’t  hit me and I put the book away and I went to bed  

24:42and then the next night I sat down with the book  and I was reading it and I didn’t know where I had  

24:49left off the night before and so I just started  at the top of the page and said I’ll just read   the whole thing and so I started reading the whole  page again and when I came through the the section  

25:01where she talks about the individual sticking  a knife in her it hit me like a ton of bricks  

25:08my uncle doing the same programming to myself  and my uncle was the first person that I remember  

25:15doing it to me I was had that happen to me by  several individuals and was also tortured in  

25:20that way by my grandfather at another experience  in McCall and that was actually on the 4th of  

25:27July that’s something I haven’t written about but  that was a horrific experience they’re just cruel  

25:32people they’re disassociative multiples and so  but back to this back to where I was at and so I  

25:41I remembered this event uh occurring and it just  blew me away because I have a scar on my chest  

25:48in the exact location that Kathy described I just  took my shirt off and I was like holy [ __ ] look  

25:55and I could remember my uncle with the switchblade  sticking it in me making me memorize and things  

26:02that’s what I first remembered and so that was  really shocking the scars that I found on my  

26:09body have really been been difficult to to just  disregard because I have scars that I’m I’ve been  

26:19like well how did I even get that for years  I wonder how did I get this scar where did it  

26:25come from and to remember where I got them is is  interesting it really you just remember how you  

26:33got a scar that’s that’s all there is to it you  just remember um do you have any questions Emma  

26:42I’m sorry I’m talking an awful lot oh you’re  doing awesome thank you so much for everything  

26:47that you’re sharing I know that this stuff you  know it’s like you said it it sounds crazy because  

26:53it is you know these are literal Psychopaths that  are you know collaborating together to exploit the  

27:02gifts that we’re born with in children you know  and it’s just horrific you know and then seeing  

27:08all the different elements that go into these  stories you know people get little Snippets here  

27:14and there about you know human trafficking for  example you know that word was word now but like  

27:21the misunderstanding of what that entails to the  depths of it and even as you were talking about  

27:26with therapy you know it’s really sad even  that in therapeutic settings you know did  

27:33um trauma actually storing in the body manifesting  as disease you know and the different symptoms  

27:38that SRA and MK Ultra survivors go through it’s so  discredited and you know conspiratorial in a sense  

27:47and it’s really sad you know because it’s like  gosh how I mean how much more amazing would your  

27:52healing Journey maybe have been in the beginning  if you would have had a therapist that like was on   the same page with you and was like oh I know  exactly like you have did you know let’s work  

28:01through it yeah of like getting scared you know  so I really appreciate you bringing light to all  

28:06of this because it it doesn’t sound crazy when  you actually hear all the pieces and how they  

28:13fit together in a story like yours you know it  makes sense and so you talking about this is so  

28:20important to validate so many other experiences  of people who maybe can’t get up here and talk   or will never have a voice for whatever reason  you know it’s so validating for people listening  

28:29and for other survivors so you’re doing awesome  yeah well thank you all right on yeah well I’m  

28:36glad you can hear me on that side my internet is  working a little better now so oh good okay yeah I  

28:43wanted to invest so if I can um you mentioned the  4th of July is there anything in particular about  

28:50that day um of why they would choose the Fourth  of July for an event I don’t sell I don’t hear  

28:57that event talked about as much as say Christmas  or some of the other holidays that they choose to  

29:03do really horrible things on and since it’s July  I thought maybe I’d ask you about the significance  

29:08yeah yeah no that’s a good question Emma um  they they use holidays a lot and so are they  

29:16you they use and they used on me holidays a  lot and so I have to pay particular attention  

29:22to those like you say Christmas Thanksgiving  big family get-togethers when people would get  

29:29together my family we lived really close with my  my abuse base was close and so it get-togethers  

29:39even included birthdays I gotta watch those  because a lot of things on your birthday  

29:47um about the Fourth of July I I don’t know quite  how to answer that because it is an important day  

29:55in the country and for various Patriots and  so yeah I I don’t quite know how to answer  

30:04that yeah I don’t know of the randomity  of that date compared to any other so as  

30:10far as the holiday goes anyway yeah that’s  totally fine I appreciate you you know even  

30:15just explaining the holiday concept because it  is you know they they take everything that’s   good and they twist it so it’s not they do  what they do is they turn it upside down  

30:26um yeah to use a trigger is up is down  and so in Satanism and in the project  

30:35um Up Is Down you take good turn it bad you  take bad you make it good dark becomes light  

30:43they’re they’re really into opposites and so it’s  important to pay attention to opposites uh for  

30:50example uh one opposite to pay attention to is uh  in numbers the numbers 666 is always considered to  

30:59be the devil’s number but in Satanism everything’s  inverted and so an even more important number is  

31:06999 because 999 has been inverted and so it has  hidden meaning and so that’s something I pay close  

31:14attention to and I’m out and about and maybe  there’s a car that is making me uncomfortable  

31:21what is this license plate say so yeah just as a  side note there um but maybe what I wouldn’t mind  

31:30doing really quick Emma is explaining to folks  what trauma-based mind control is because there  

31:37might be some folks who don’t understand that and  this helps to explain why I’m trying to blow the  

31:42whistle on this because I’ve tried very hard to  blow the whistle on this I’ve contacted the FBI  

31:48I’ve contacted the Attorney General of the United  States I’ve contacted Trump when he was in office  

31:54I don’t trust Biden I’m not going to contact  Biden I don’t want to get into politics but  

32:00I’ve contacted a lot of people and I’ve tried to  blow the whistle on this even down to talking to  

32:07local sheriffs and everyone is just afraid of  it they they don’t even know how to even as law  

32:15enforcement to process it or they’ve been told  to shut up and they’re not going to talk to me  

32:20about it right one or the other one or the other  yeah and so what it is the Central Intelligence  

32:28agency’s trauma-based mind control program it is  essentially taking children um and bringing them  

32:37up through trauma the most important children  are children who were generationally abused  

32:44so children who abuses runs in their family one  of the most horrific forms of abuse for a child to  

32:53push you to a point of dissociation is child abuse  and child abuse by your own family it’s it’s awful  

33:02and it’s so awful that it pushes your mind out  of your body you disassociate sometimes you leave  

33:08entirely and I can remember I have several flashes  of I should say on that of being out of my body  

33:17I can remember being out of my body when I was  in the depth tanks and they had run me through  

33:23suicide programming but that was a different  experience but they will push you out of your body  

33:28and the point of the whole project is just that  to find children that disassociate who are strong  

33:36in dissociation and the strongest ones come from  generationally abusive families and a lot of those  

33:45generationally abusive families uh come from Elite  bloodlines and so the rich are into this like I  

33:53was saying the very wealthy they live a completely  different lifestyle one might say than the general  

33:59population and the strongest that disassociate  are those that come from generationally abusive  

34:09families and then you include in that satanic  generationally abusive families and that’s what  

34:15I come from is from a generational a satanic  generationally abusive family my family are  

34:22satanists and they’re hiding in the Mormon Church  religious institutions are free of this and it’s  

34:29not only the government religious institutions are  aware of this I was raised in the Mormon church  

34:36and so that’s where my background comes from and  I was connected to Gordon B Hinckley and Thomas  

34:43Monson and Aaron and those are the individuals  that were in my life I was going to be placed  

34:49under uh Hinckley in an internship in Salt Lake  but back to what I was talking about with the  

34:56purpose of it the purpose of it and how they do it  is they do it through trauma and um so they abuse  

35:04you from the time that you’re born I can remember  being abused as far back as I can remember and  

35:12and then they make you witness awful things and so  my grandfather for example he was a psychopath and  

35:19he killed people for the CIA and so I would have  to witness this firsthand as well as the disposal  

35:26of individuals which was very bad to go through  and so I don’t eat pork a lot of people that were  

35:34were killed by the agency and the satanic Network  were fed to Hawks they’re fed to pigs pigs will  

35:42eat anything and so I’ve heard people talk about  well where’s the evidence where are the bodies  

35:48for these things well they were fed to Hogs it’s  they control Hog Farms and so there’s also other  

35:56means such as there’s a beetle that’ll eat the  human body as well and so I’ve witnessed those  

36:02being used as well and those are not a very cheap  option they’re very expensive um so you witness  

36:10all these horrible things the first time I can  remember people being killed was in Disneyland  

36:17um this little girl that was held under the  park there and we were taken off of a ride  

36:23um and taken down under the park and then made  to witness uh what I would call a blood sacrifice  

36:30ceremony of sorts and um that’s a long story  do you want me to tell that story it’s kind of  

36:37gruesome I can tell it if you want it’s up to you  if you’re comfortable telling it I know it always  

36:43gives listeners context but there’s absolutely no  pressure If it’s not something that you want to   get into right now okay I don’t mind talking  about it these things are all pretty awful  

36:52and they’re you know I live through it so and on  this too like your your the audience listening to  

37:01you they’ve listened to you know they kind of  expect a level of discomfort you know they’re  

37:07they’re listening to horrible things every episode  you know so you’re in front of the right people   who are going to be receptive to you know holding  and holding space for what you’re saying okay okay  

37:17so at Disneyland uh one of the ways that they do  programming and this isn’t the only way but one  

37:26of the ways is uh they will act like a ride broke  down and so you’ll be loaded on the ride and then  

37:33the ride will start up and usually you’re put  in between various cars so my family my older  

37:40brother and sister oftentimes would be loaded in  front of us me and my younger brother because my  

37:46younger brother was also selected uh during the  test for Alex Houston and so he also went through  

37:53a lot of a lot of trauma-based mind control  programming and we went through it together  

37:58and so we would be loaded on the right but they’d  put a car between us or two and then put us on and  

38:06then send us in and then the ride would break down  and it would stop and it wouldn’t be going and a  

38:14moment or two would go by we would be unloaded  from that ride it would be in the it would stop  

38:21at the right spot and we would be unloaded from  the ride and we would be taken under the park  

38:27and in one particular instance on my first trip  there I can remember being taken under the park  

38:33taken off the ride and being made to witness my  grandfather um yeah committing murder under the  

38:42park so what happened is uh it was the wild toe  bride and it stopped out in the ride I was with  

38:50my little brother and my dad and someone came  out through a door out of the the ride setting  

38:57and they got us but my we were scared me and  my little brother and so we didn’t want to go  

39:04without our dad and he came with us that time  this was right at the beginning of it all in my  

39:09life as far as programming at Disneyland and so  he came with us and we went under the park and

39:19and when we got down into the tunnels we  were taken into a room by this young man  

39:25and my grandfather was in this room it was  very dark my grandfather was in there he had  

39:31the robe on a black robe and he was very angry  at this individual for bringing my dad he told  

39:38him not to bring my dad with him and so he he  had to take my dad back up my grandpa he took  

39:45me and my little brother back into this other  room and in that room Emma were cages set up  

39:52in that room and they were set up around what  I would consider to be an altar and that altar  

39:59was there for for killing people for killing  the children that were held under the park in  

40:07these cages and so this might be really hard for  people to hear but these people are inhuman and  

40:13the trauma that they’re trying to initiate is so  bad it’s unimaginable there are two children that  

40:20were held under the park at that time in cages  and my grandfather he he killed in front of me  

40:26and my little brother one of the girls that was  held there she was just this sweet little girl  

40:33and he just took her out yeah and he he put her on  the on the Altar and he he killed that little girl  

40:41and the altar was designed so that um the  blood of the people that they would kill  

40:48would be caught and they would catch it in a in a  bowl it was usually white because of the contrast  

40:55of the blood and see blood Emma that’s drawn  through trauma it has certain chemicals in it  

41:03and satanists believed that that blood is powerful  and it gives them longevity in life and so a lot  

41:11of the stuff that we’re talking about too when  we’re talking about traum-based mind control is  

41:17um it’s very satanic and it’s involved with dark  magic when I first remembered or or I shouldn’t  

41:25say first remember when I first started to  remember and it when I realized what I had  

41:33lived through it hit me so hard when I broke  through the wall when I was with my therapist  

41:42and now we’re going back to 2017 when I see my  therapist it it felt as though I had broken a  

41:49very powerful spell that is the only way I could  describe it to my wife was that a very powerful  

41:59spell had been broken and so there’s a lot of  Satanism involved with that in particular in  

42:06what I was what I experienced and what I lived  through unfortunately and what a lot of other  

42:12people live through which is terrible but back  to Disneyland that little girl was uh murdered  

42:19and we were made to drink and consume her blood  my grandfather made my little brother and I both  

42:26also drink they started that from a very young  age and that followed through my life up until

42:34I was a young adult the last time I can remember  being made to do that was on an operation in Haley  

42:43Idaho there and outside of Ketchum and so then  you’d be put back on the ride so at Disneyland  

42:51we were made to be involved with these things  and then we’d be put back on the ride and then  

42:56the ride would start up again all these things we  were also made to make porn under there that was a  

43:02common theme and um and be involved with things  of that nature there are also people Emma that  

43:10were there being programmed for acting which is  interesting to me and so that in the project in  

43:19the program there are your program a lot of people  are programmed for different life paths I would  

43:25call them and so for me I was being raised uh in a  family where we got rid of people for the federal  

43:33government that’s what we did as a family and we  also got rid of people with the satanic Network  

43:41and the satanic Network that I was involved  with is directly connected to the Mormon Church  

43:47which is it’s just too bad that the religious  institutions are involved with these things but  

43:55that’s somewhere that Satan is hide and so the  Mormon church is well aware of trauma-based mind  

44:01control programming and and they’re directly  involved with it they provide generationally  

44:07abused children to the church one of the big  things in the church for example is genealogy  

44:13that genealogy that they’re working on is also  used to find Elite family Bloodlines satanic  

44:19family Bloodlines and they’re able to follow that  and they’re able to work with those children this  

44:26helps them in the project and so these various  institutions such as religion government those  

44:32are able to be used by the satanic Elite and by  the government intelligence Community for various  

44:40things and that’s one of the things that they  use it for and so I’ve jumped around an awful  

44:47lot I want to finish up on on the premise  of trauma-based mind control programming  

44:53um because it is important and so the premise  of it is to cause you to disassociate through  

45:01trauma we talked about that and then once you are  in that state of disassociation and Trauma they  

45:09program you we could call it with a new  personality for whatever it is they want you  

45:17doing in that personality and so there are lots  of different personalities that they will create  

45:24I don’t know how many I have but I’ve learned to  work through them that’s something that I still  

45:30work with and still have to work through and  they will create them for uh doing things like  

45:39um well we’ve talked about assassinations that  will program you to do such things as that or  

45:45murder for the network they will also program  you to make pornography I was made to make an  

45:52extensive amount of child pornography I was used  as a child to make I I can’t even tell you how  

46:00much and my family was heavily involved with that  they had a video store there in Nampa and and so  

46:08out the front door they’d be renting videos about  Disneyland and the recent Blockbusters and then  

46:14out the back door would go kitty porn it was  very messed up and I can remember being made  

46:20to be involved with that uh clear up into being a  young adult and that’s something that the satanic  

46:27leader into too what we’re talking about are  moral boundaries and if you’re a Satanist you  

46:33are not concerned about moral boundaries those  are something for common people and so yeah it’s  

46:41difficult to get into the minds of those folks  they’re yeah they’re not very healthy but the  

46:49premise of it is to create those personalities so  that they can use you for various tasks and one  

46:55of the benefits of of a mind slave because that’s  what it is you’re a slave you’re a trauma-based  

47:01mind slave you’re living in a state of mind  slavery which to me is one of the worst things  

47:07you can do to an individual and that’s one of the  reasons that I’m so outspoken on this is because  

47:13you steal someone’s free will to to live their  life and do what they will with their own body  

47:20and their own mind they steal your mind through  this process of disassociation and the creation  

47:26of another personality or multiples of them and  so it’s a terrible thing to do you’re stealing  

47:34someone’s Free Will which is just wrong you’re  you’re living in an upside down um world and

47:44what they’re able to do Emma is make it so that  you can’t remember being in that personality or  

47:52going through the trauma that you endured and  so yes you are caused to dissociate you’re put  

47:59through trauma which in and of itself is difficult  on the human mind and difficult to recall pure  

48:05trauma and then you add into it creating a  multiple personality well the CIA in particular  

48:12has gotten very good at the scientific aspect  of it we’re going to call it and one of those  

48:18scientific aspects is hypnosis this is an old  practice that is very effective on disassociative  

48:28people and they will use uh hypnosis every time I  was put through trauma I was put through hypnosis  

48:35afterward to remember to forget those events and  they will put various things in that hypnosis  

48:43like suicide programming and things like that if  if that’s what they’re working with and so they  

48:52will use hypnosis and then another thing that  they will use is electrocution and so my father  

48:58he was given when I was six years old and I was  in Disneyland they’re in 84 we were at the hotel  

49:04and um this is where nefarious individual named  Mr bird comes in because um I knew Senator Robert  

49:13Burke he was a scumbag he was in charge of of  funding the Central Intelligence agency’s mind  

49:21control program not a good person and he was  friends with my grandfather my grandfather and  

49:27him worked together I’m not quite positive about  the extent of that but it seemed to be pretty  

49:33extensive from what I can remember and so when I  was in Disneyland we were me and my little brother  

49:40we were sent out and we’re in a hotel to backtrack  just a little bit just to digress we were in  

49:46a hotel we’ve been at Disneyland all day this  was after we’d witnessed that that little girl  

49:52um having you know being murdered and we were  taken back to the hotel after that day at the  

50:00hottest part of the day and we went swimming and  so when we were swimming my mother she stayed in  

50:09the hotel and she came and got us after a short  time my dad he was out soon with us but my mom  

50:15came out and she got my little brother and I and  my dad and brought us back inside and um there was  

50:22someone there to see us and so we went out front  and it was my grandfather and Senator Berg and  

50:27they were there uh they had a black Cadillac that  they had driven there they like fancy nice cars  

50:34and they were both in suits and as a kid I was  like my God it’s so hot how can you even be in  

50:40that thing and that was um that was the first year  as a Disneyland and bird gave my father a taser  

50:50at that time out there in the parking lot he  said here this is for uh working with the kids  

50:56you have to use this on them and he explained  that we had to pick a spot on our bodies where  

51:02we were going to get hit with this thing for  the rest of our lives because it leaves a scar   and I have that scar right here on my leg and I  was always told it was a birthmark as far back  

51:13as I can remember but I’m like no no no dude I  remember that’s not that’s not a birthmark and so

51:25um we were hit with a taser after we talked to  them so Mr bird and my grandfather they left they  

51:32talked to us for a little while you know asked us  how Disneyland was and all that and asked how we   were doing because we were pretty shook up from  it as little kids really you know and then we  

51:42were taken back into the hotel and my father hit  us with those things and you want to talk about   betrayal and uh the feeling of just pure betrayal  because I had no idea what was coming I was six  

51:53years old and to be taken back into the bathroom  and you know my dad’s like so where are we gonna  

52:00do this thing at and I had to choose you know on  my leg and and then Wham and I just went down and  

52:08the pain is just Indescribable of what that thing  does but it it it it erases your it doesn’t erase  

52:16your memory it compartmentalizes it it pushes it  away it pushes it back and with the hypnotism you  

52:23give did a conduit to go away as well that’s  something else that’s important because these  

52:31things are all used in conjunction with each other  it’s not just you can do one thing and expect an  

52:37outcome and so they’re all used in conjunction  they have it down to a science and so people like  

52:43me because we disassociate and we have multiple  personalities for multiple purposes we’re used  

52:51for a lot of Nefarious and illegal activities by  the federal government and so you’d be brought in  

52:57for for basically the Dirty Deeds of the federal  government what they needed to do that that could  

53:05not be out in the open and they needed to have  full deniability of it and so I was involved with  

53:11things like assassinations for example where we  would be sent in and we would get rid of people  

53:18I was used in um in Japan for example over  in Kobe Japan that was in 1997 I want to say  

53:29and I was taken over there and we got rid of a man  named masaro takumi and I was a sniper that was  

53:37positioned up on a roof because the gang that was  going in see the Massaro takumi story is very long  

53:46because Masaru was connected to the cult the  alumsham rikyo cult and the gassing of the Tokyo  

53:57subway system he he provided funds he didn’t know  it he didn’t know he was providing funds to the OM  

54:05shinrichio and that they were going to use it to  gas the Tokyo subway system he didn’t know but his  

54:13mistress was the brother of heideki sejal who it  was a famous musicianist in Japan he died back in  

54:222018 when I started to remember all these things  all of a sudden heideki dies of a heart attack  

54:28within oh I forget how long when I started to  remember it was terrible but he was involved  

54:36because he supported the OM shinrichial cult  and he would provide them with funds I don’t  

54:43know that he knew what they were going to do  with him either but his sister who was masaru’s  

54:49mistress would ask Masaru for money she’d give it  to her brother he’d give it to the cold and that  

54:56cult ended up gassing the Tokyo subway system  but the cult itself was an MK Ultra product  

55:03this is such a such a twisted deep Network that  they have created and so those people in that  

55:11cult that were at the top were mind slaves and  they were created uh through Monarch programming  

55:18and they were a CIA asset and the CIA was well  aware that they were going to gas the Tokyo subway  

55:24system and the Pentagon even provided the gas they  are the ones who sold the Colt the gas to do it  

55:33which is it’s incredible the way the network  goes but people aren’t all good and they don’t  

55:42all see the world through the same eyes that  that people who are good see the world through  

55:49and that is a problem but we can learn to work  through it part of the problem is the National  

55:55Security Act a lot of these things are hidden  behind the 1947 National Security Act and people  

56:01have no idea what’s going on they don’t know and  it’s all under lock and key labeled as top secret  

56:08and classified and people aren’t allowed  to see it and so it’s a terrible thing but  

56:15right yeah do you have any questions  Emma I’ve been talking an awful lot   no you’re doing great this is a lot of information  I appreciate you giving some background on that  

56:26um again it makes it validating to understand the  logistics and the intent behind creating something  

56:36like this because without the context again all  this stuff the way that it has been leaked into  

56:43society the little bits and pieces that people  get again it becomes conspiratorial so really  

56:50understanding the history and the purpose in  realizing we’re not taught about how powerful  

56:55our bodies are and our brains are in school that  that information that the Divinity within us is  

57:01left out of any education like people feel like  crap we have depression everywhere and if people  

57:07understood how how they could use something  that you understand that was exploited in you  

57:13for something good yeah you could be able to in  an instant turn all this around you know but they  

57:20hide that Divinity from us and instead they know  it exists and they exploit it on the back end and  

57:26profit from it and it is so sick and sad you know  and again like you being able to to break that  

57:33down so eloquently and to articulate the purposes  why somebody would want a mind sleeve right why  

57:41wouldn’t the government want just kind of not  Expendable people but people that aren’t them to  

57:47do their Dirty Deeds so they can continue to be in  the spotlight and look good and have other people   go and do the stuff that they you know are to you  know cowardly to do themselves in a sense and and  

57:58so evil to even want to do to begin with you know  so I just want to thank you for giving some of  

58:04that history because it really does help people  connect dots on their head and say that makes  

58:10sense like I could see our government wanting to  do that I could see how and why somebody would  

58:15choose a church to hide this in you know it’s the  perfect disguise exactly how you know Freemasons  

58:21hide in plain view and through charity and they’re  so evil you know and even mentioned Disney you  

58:27know he was a Walt Disney was a Freemason I’ve  heard higher than the 33rd degree but I mean these  

58:33people hide in these very you know charismatic  and exciting archetypes you know and even talking  

58:40about your grandpa like wearing the identity of  a a singer that’s just literally a an alias it  

58:49wasn’t even his true identity you know these  things are so left out of society so I really  

58:55appreciate what you’re bringing to the table  because it does validate these stories on such a   deep level and I know it’s going to be it’s going  to be very helpful in connecting dots with people  

59:04yeah yeah all the stories coming together do  help connect the dots but something I’d like  

59:10to add when I first started to remember these  things I had a friend of mine ask me he said why  

59:17would they do this why would they why would they  want someone like that why wouldn’t they just have  

59:24have an agent or a soldier do that and the reason  Emma is because it’s not all black and white and  

59:34if you have a healthy minded individual who is  your agent or Soldier and you tell them I want  

59:41you to kill this man who is an enemy of the state  and I want you to kill his wife and his children  

59:51as well that individual is going to say he’s  going to question that or she that individual  

59:59if they’re a healthy minded individual is going  to question that that’s immoral and that’s one  

1:00:05of the reasons that they want mind slaves it is  because they don’t remember because they will do  

1:00:11things such as smuggle drugs or be used in porn or  be used for blackmail or be used for assassination  

1:00:17and they won’t remember but it’s also because they  will do what you tell them to do without question  

1:00:25that’s a big key to it as well and so I had to  explain that to my friend and when you bring that  

1:00:33into context it also helps with an understanding  of it because it is dark and it is evil I was used  

1:00:41um so I was raised in in this program  with through the Central Intelligence   Agency and I was used for all kinds of Nefarious  things including child porn and assassinations  

1:00:54which is too bad it’s a terrible thing  and a terrible thing to live with but

1:01:05and I do if I could ask you one question actually  yeah you can I mean the role that your parents  

1:01:11played in this or how like kind of their history  and their role um whether they were mind control  

1:01:18slaves to you or sort of how they fit into the  picture well that’s a good question Emma yeah so  

1:01:26my father he was very he was abusive but he seems  as though he was a disassociative multiple in some  

1:01:33way as well and he was involved with the project  because my grandfather it involved all of us in  

1:01:41the project that he was able to and so my father  he was involved with the project but he didn’t  

1:01:47we all have strength strengths and  weaknesses and my father um he made  

1:01:55it so far I guess you would say in the project  and his role um when he had us was to raise us  

1:02:04um to raise us in the program and in the  project and so he was one of our key abusers  

1:02:11and so it seems to me that he was a  disassociated multiple because of the  

1:02:16horrendous abuse that he was capable of my mother  she also seems to be a dissociated multiple but  

1:02:24I don’t yeah I I pray for my mother I hope that  she’s okay but yeah but I that’s a difficult one  

1:02:35because she seems to me more like a tool than  anything who is disassociative and they’re able  

1:02:42to work with and keep her under control I would  say and so my parents um yeah does that answer  

1:02:54your question yes thank you so much for that yeah  because I know it does it does have a generational  

1:03:00effect you know and a lot of times unfortunately  there does seem to be more of a I know they’re all  

1:03:08unconscious to a degree but there’s there does  seem to be kind of a leader in the family that   originally takes on the role and then it’s very  dissociative on the way down you know to where  

1:03:18it’s just an autopilot you know multi-generational  it’s how the trauma stores and the DNA you know  

1:03:23it just becomes like a normal pattern in the  family so it’s really sad to hear about that   you know that your father also didn’t you know  have his Free Will and you know was forced to do  

1:03:35these horrific things it’s just it’s disgusting  and it’s sad you know it’s yeah yeah it is yeah  

1:03:43but that is what they do though they use families  because families have a huge bind of trust within  

1:03:51them you know you’re your family that’s someone  that you should be able to trust right completely  

1:03:59yeah not in the project yeah so so I was raised  in this in the cia’s mind control program but we  

1:04:08were protected through the Mormon church I would  say a message that I would like to communicate  

1:04:14is that the more my church is being controlled by  a satanic Kabul those men who are up there at the  

1:04:22top those men are not good people they’re very bad  people I personally knew Hinckley I’d met him back  

1:04:31in 95 after he became the prophet and I met Thomas  Monson and they were both bad people not good and  

1:04:42Hinckley I met because my my uncle and CIA Handler  he did the presentation for Hinckley I I don’t  

1:04:50know if you’re LDS at all or if you were raised in  the church Emma but that in the church the prophet  

1:04:57he’s like the head guy he’s the pope you would  say of the LDS church and he was invited to to uh  

1:05:07to my uncle’s Ward I suppose he was invited he  came to my uncle’s Ward to speak in Haley Idaho  

1:05:13and that’s where I met him because I was told  that I had to come and meet the prophet and see  

1:05:19him speak and so we went and my uncle he housed us  me and a friend of mine who was also a mind slave  

1:05:26as well uh I was I was raised around other kids  that were also my slaves said that we’re in the  

1:05:33project and in the program and we’d be used to  handle each other and keep each other in line  

1:05:39uh or be used for um aliases for various things  you know where was so and so oh well this person  

1:05:48can vouch that they were over here but we met  we met Hinckley there in Haley uh they we did  

1:05:55a presentation for him because my uncle arranged  it because Hinckley had just become the prophet of  

1:06:01the Mormon Church the president and he wanted to  know what was going on with the Mormon kids from  

1:06:09abusive families and satanic families he wanted  to know what the government was doing with us  

1:06:15and so me and this other kid Chris we were used  in the presentation and it was done in my uncle’s  

1:06:22basement in his office there and we were used to  show what it was that they were doing with us and  

1:06:31so I thought as a kid you know that I was going to  hear the prophet speak and I was just going to go  

1:06:37to church and that was that but we went to church  and we heard Hinckley talk and it was really weird  

1:06:44when he even arrived at all because he came in  through the side door after a church had already  

1:06:49started and then he was seated up in the front and  he sat next to my uncle and they talked for quite  

1:06:56a while and it looked like they were having quite  the conversation I can remember watching them and   I was like my goodness what is what is Gail doing  talking with Hinckley what are they talking about  

1:07:06because you got to keep in mind we’re in the  middle of the service someone’s given a talk  

1:07:11you know and so they’re up there talking and then  Hinckley was finally got up he gave his talk it  

1:07:19was short and and just just pretty mundane I was  blown away I was expecting something prophetic  

1:07:27like wow this is the profit this is going to  be incredible I’m going to be moved Emma Beyond  

1:07:33imagination no I it was like wow okay I’ve heard  that talk like ten thousand times in my Mormon  

1:07:41past you know and so that was a little  disappointing and then they they he sat down after  

1:07:48giving his talk and he talked to my uncle for a  little while more and then they left the prophet  

1:07:53left uh in the middle of the meeting they said  okay everyone we’re stopping for a minute and the  

1:07:59prophet’s leaving and so they all laughed through  the same side door they’d come in but when he’d   come into Emma he was surrounded by bodyguards uh  the prophet which blew me away I was I was a young  

1:08:11man and I’m sitting there and I’m like why why  would the Mormon prophet need to be surrounded  

1:08:17by bodyguards it didn’t make much sense to me in  my mind because I figured if you were a man of God  

1:08:22God’s going to take care of you until it’s time  to go and then it’s time to go and so what’s the  

1:08:29problem why would you worry about it if you were  the prophet well he was surrounded by bodyguards  

1:08:34and so then they all laughed and then sacrament  meeting ended and uh Chris and I we had been  

1:08:41told that we’re supposed to go back over to my  uncle’s house after church and we’re supposed to  

1:08:48um come back over there because there was  something going on and so we were told to   head over there and we got into our car we drove  over there first I talked to my cousin because I  

1:08:58was a little nervous about it uh I was like why  are we going over there what’s going on and so I  

1:09:04went and found my cousin and she told me no we’re  not going back over to the house well what are you  

1:09:09talking about and her and her friends went back  in the building well Chris and I were like well we   better get over there you know my I knew my uncle  didn’t like to be made to wait and so we headed up  

1:09:19there drove up to the house we went inside seemed  like no one was there we went down in the basement  

1:09:25and uh knocked on the door well we were  supposed to do a secret handshake my  

1:09:31uncle had shown me this handshake you  see Emma before this the night before  

1:09:38all this happened before the prophet spoke we  stayed at my uncle’s house and we stayed in  

1:09:45the basement next to my uncle’s office and  uh we were very heavily abused that night  

1:09:53because they were getting us ready to meet the  Mormon prophet my grandfather came up from the  

1:09:58Boise Valley it was about a two and a half three  hour drive from Boise to Haley my grandfather  

1:10:04drove up and another individual that I know is  Kyle he was there and if Kyle wouldn’t have been  

1:10:11there it would have been really bad my grandfather  might have killed us it was such a horrible  

1:10:17experience and my grandfather was out of his mind  and so they tortured us through the night I don’t  

1:10:23I’m not sure how long they tortured us for and and  worked on us to get us ready for in the morning  

1:10:30and in the morning when I woke up I felt terrible  Emma I just felt horrible and my body would just  

1:10:37felt awful and I I couldn’t understand why I  was like is the room stuffy what is wrong with  

1:10:43me and got out of bed got moving and my uncle  he met me in the hall and he told me that he  

1:10:51needed to show me a handshake and this is where  he told me I needed to come back to the house   after church and he showed me this handshake  and he said you need to remember this because  

1:11:01when you come back after church you need to come  down to the office and you you need to know this  

1:11:06handshake to get in the door when you get here  and I was just kind of like okay like I was half  

1:11:13awake I’d been up all night being tortured and  he showed it to me and I could not remember it  

1:11:19and he says do you got it and I tried it again  and I I couldn’t hardly remember this handshake  

1:11:26and he he was like okay you got it you’re good  and then he left and in my mind I was like oh  

1:11:33no I don’t got it I sure hope I got it because  I don’t feel like I do and then and so we went  

1:11:41to church and we listened to the prophet and all  that and then we came back to the house well now  

1:11:47we’re standing at the door to get into his office  and I knocked on the door and Chris he’s behind me  

1:11:52and Chris he was a young man he was a funny kid he  had a loaf of bread we’d been fasting all morning  

1:11:58because we were supposed to fast we were often  told we couldn’t eat when we were going through  

1:12:03programming sections because it affects the human  mind it puts you into more of a survival State and  

1:12:10so we were fasting quote that morning and so Chris  he grabbed a loaf of bread on the way in and he’s  

1:12:17standing there eating a loaf of bread and I know  on the door and the door I hear some noise inside  

1:12:24and I was like oh man what what is going on in  here and the door opens and a hand sticks out  

1:12:32and I see the hand and I realize okay I have to  know the handshake now and so I tried to shake  

1:12:39his hand and remember but Emma I couldn’t remember  what the handshake was my uncle had not programmed  

1:12:45me well enough to remember it these people are not  perfect and they don’t get everything right and in  

1:12:52my mind you know they have a process but they’re  really not that great at it there’s a lot of flaws  

1:12:58to it and yeah part of it is just because they’re  scum but I couldn’t remember the handshake and so

1:13:08so the hand goes back in and the door closes  and I hear some some murmuring behind the  

1:13:15door and I was like oh no I did not remember  it now in the project Emma if you screwed up  

1:13:21you just period you didn’t know how long you were  going to be alive you witnessed so many people die  

1:13:27in front of you and part of that was to keep you  honest on a constant state of alertness that you  

1:13:34better keep your [ __ ] together and you better  do your job right or you might be the one who’s  

1:13:39next and so I was a little afraid about the fact  that I couldn’t remember well Chris just pushed  

1:13:45me out of the way luckily Chris could remember  well I guess luckily we should have ran the hell   out of there at that moment but Chris could  remember and he pushed me out of the way he  

1:13:55knocked on the door the hand came out and he was  able to shake it and we were able to go inside  

1:14:01and so he did remember because my uncle showed it  to him as well and so we went inside and uh Gordon  

1:14:08was in there with his Entourage of bodyguards at  first I couldn’t see Gordon I was just walking in  

1:14:14this room and there’s all these dudes in there in  suits of various ages but a lot of them were young  

1:14:19men there was an older gentleman there I remember  and we went in there and Gordon he was sitting  

1:14:25at my uncle’s desk and he was turned backward so  that we couldn’t see him and my uncle was standing  

1:14:31there and he says come in boys there’s someone I  want you to meet well it was Gordon it was Gordon   B Hinckley he was there and that was the reason  for his trip to Haley it wasn’t to give that  

1:14:41mundane speech or talk at church it was because he  was interested in the project and we were there to  

1:14:48do a presentation for him and so that night before  we had um we had gone you could say we’d gone  

1:14:55through the presentation and all the aspects of  everything we were going to cover in this present  

1:15:01Temptation and so we were made to we were made to  strip naked there in front of Gordon we were made  

1:15:08to enact homosexual acts have homosexual  sex they’re in front of Hinckley we were  

1:15:16um made to electrocute each other with a cattle  prod in various ways uh yeah my grandfather had  

1:15:24brought the cattle brand he was yeah not a  very good person and then we were made to  

1:15:30um show him assassinations and not just how did  how we do it but how we would even die ourselves  

1:15:41and so because as a mindsave you mentioned  disposability a little while ago well you just  

1:15:49might be disposable and there are a lot of folks  in the project that are disposable but the what  

1:15:56what are called The Chosen are not we’re going to  say disposable you could be used as disposable if  

1:16:05it was for some big purpose like some kind of  cultural or social or political event and you  

1:16:12were going to die in it you could be uh you could  be killed in that way but for the general rule I  

1:16:19would say those that weren’t of the chosen were  the ones selected to be killed most of the time  

1:16:25but in this particular presentation I was made  to get on my knees and I was Buck ass naked we  

1:16:31both were and Chris held a knife to my throat  and they explained how you know I would die  

1:16:38and Chris would kill me and Chris he would have  killed me Emma that he was starting to push that  

1:16:44knife into my throat I could feel it pierce the  skin I could feel the blood running down my neck  

1:16:50and in my mind I was like oh [ __ ] is Gail pissed  at me that’s what was going through my head are  

1:17:00they pissed at me did I do something and this is  it like it’s over and so I started to turn my head  

1:17:06because my uncle and Hinckley were talking  and it would this was all just normal stuff  

1:17:13like like you know two two three guys all sitting  around talking about it though there were several  

1:17:18others in the room but those guys were there as  as uh security that they you know they were just  

1:17:25talking and about these things as I’m on there  on my knees and I had to turn my head so that my  

1:17:32uncle when he finally looked my way again could  see that I was bleeding and that I was about to   Chris was about to kill me and my uncle was like  Hey Chris don’t kill Johnny what are you doing  

1:17:43you know don’t kill him we’re not We’re not gonna  kill him right now and so he took the knife away  

1:17:49and they didn’t kill me which which is good it you  know I’m glad to be alive but we also demonstrated  

1:17:57pain as well but right after that we demonstrated  what we what they do to not talk to program us to  

1:18:05not talk because that was a big question Hinckley  had how do you keep them from talking so after  

1:18:11this presentation see Emma I was going to be  moved into a position directly under Hinckley  

1:18:17I was supposed to be in some kind of internship  I don’t quite understand it I was being moved   to the Salt Lake Area to Sandy Utah and I was  going to be um under Hinckley in some kind of an  

1:18:28internship thing that’s the reason that I went and  met Thomas Monson and met with airing was because  

1:18:34I was supposed to be moved up there and they were  going to be using me for things and so this was   the first time that I’d met Hinckley was at this  presentation that that we’re doing it there in  

1:18:44Haley well I’d seen him speak but this is when I  really met him and he had this guy there with him  

1:18:52um but back to the not talking thing okay he  wanted to know how how we were kept from talking   and so we were brought up to the desk and we were  made to hold knives to our genitalia and and say  

1:19:04that we would remove our own manhood if we were  to ever talk and this is the kind of programming  

1:19:10that they’re putting in these young people’s  minds and this is such a horrific thing that  

1:19:16that as a young man it would just it’s awful  and so even the thought of it is horrible and  

1:19:24so these are the kinds of things that they’re  programming young people to do in the event   that they would ever talk and so we would at  that time yeah I’d never talked at that time  

1:19:36and then the next thing that we did uh was we  were tortured by an individual there in hinckley’s  

1:19:43entourage because Hinckley even after all these  things Emma was still skeptical how you know you  

1:19:50have to picture this guy and he’s watching all  these things well how do you really know that  

1:19:56it’s all working that that this isn’t all just a  show and so we were to be tortured and the rule  

1:20:03was that we weren’t allowed to be bruised or  scarred and so they couldn’t do anything to us  

1:20:09that would bruise us or scar us because people  would ask questions about that scars are a big  

1:20:14deal in Monarch programming you’re not a if  someone else scars you they’re in deep [ __ ]  

1:20:20you don’t want to hurt one of the chosen because  there are consequences to that and I’ll get into  

1:20:26that we got rid of people that would that harm  or injure me for example but Hinckley he picked a  

1:20:36guy so one of hinckley’s guys was supposed to do  the torturing for him because he wanted to know  

1:20:42that it was properly done and that pain was truly  administered if my uncle did it how was he to know  

1:20:49that he was really doing it and so he picked this  guy he was an older guy I’m not quite sure how  

1:20:55old it seems like 50s or 60s or something maybe a  little older and he was ex-military very short uh  

1:21:02flat top style haircut and uh he tortured us both  and he twisted our arms is what he did he twisted  

1:21:10our arms up behind our backs and just reamed  them and twisted them good um this left no Scar  

1:21:16and it didn’t bruise anything and I can remember  being put through that and it was really painful  

1:21:22uh but we didn’t scream that was part of our  programming we would enter what I call my 10  

1:21:28month 10-man programming and so this goes back to  The Wizard of Oz programming uh they used various  

1:21:36formats we’ll call it for programming such as  the Wizard of Oz Alice in Wonderland Batman Etc  

1:21:42and so my Tin Man personality kicked in and when  you’re in that state you work through the pain  

1:21:52um but you don’t it’s difficult to describe it’s  there but you’re able to block it out there are  

1:22:00times when I blocked it out entirely and have  not felt anything and there’s times where it  

1:22:06is painful but you are able to work through it uh  this time with this guy it was painful and I was  

1:22:15able to work through it and so he tortured  us both and then we did the presentation  

1:22:20and this convinced distinctly because this  it was his guy doing it you know and then  

1:22:27um and then we did uh remote viewing for  Gordon remote viewing and psychic abilities  

1:22:34are something that people are prone to who have  been abused and so the young children who’ve  

1:22:41been abused for their whole life are more prone  to psychic abilities than are uh healthy minded  

1:22:48people who have not been put through such things  and part of the reason I would say Emma is that  

1:22:58you have a closer relationship to the other side  when you are in real need does that make sense

1:23:11yeah it’s like your senses it’s like you have  hyper sensibility in in a way where everything  

1:23:16is constantly like your discernment you’re so  much more aware of things than other people  

1:23:22and can pick up on energies and can pick up on  cues and emotions and just yeah like it gets  

1:23:30very spiritual when you talk about that aspect of  it you know and Society doesn’t want to believe  

1:23:35and that but that’s that’s where Society goes  wrong because these people know that these gifts  

1:23:41exist you know and that they can exploit them you  know and it’s very very real I’ve I 100 believe  

1:23:48that and it absolutely makes sense yeah yeah so  they’re able to use that a lot in the project of  

1:23:56different people for various things I was used  for remote viewing and so we did a presentation  

1:24:02for Hinckley on my ability to remote view which  means uh for people who aren’t aware means that  

1:24:10I’m able to see things in what I would call the  memory field I call it the memory field the energy  

1:24:19field it’s a field of energy that exists around  us all and it records everything that’s happening  

1:24:28and if you’re able to get in tune with that you’re  able to watch it and see various things happening  

1:24:36I’ve had it occur since I’ve remembered my past  back in 2017. I have a remote viewed for a while  

1:24:43but I’ve been able to do it several times since  then which is interesting I’m still working on  

1:24:49that process and I don’t have it down you know  when I was a mind slave and under their control  

1:24:57they were able to to hit me with that pretty  successfully and so for Hinckley I was able to  

1:25:07um view his wife because it was hard to convince  Hinckley once again that I was truly even remote  

1:25:14viewing and so he said well how are you going  to prove this and my uncle said well let’s view  

1:25:20your wife and so I viewed his wife and she was  in church down in Utah and I was able to tell  

1:25:28him uh well it was you know interesting  because when I told him she was at church   he he said well duh she better be at church you  know because that’s where she was supposed to be  

1:25:43um but she had a certain kind of show I don’t  know exactly what to call it uh on and there  

1:25:50was a specific color and I was able able to  tell him that and and he knew when I talked  

1:25:56about that because that was a gift that he had  actually given to her and so that convinced him  

1:26:02of the ability and the the aptitude of remote  viewing and so as an elitist you know back to  

1:26:10the satanic Elite that they’re able to learn these  things like you were saying you know the general  

1:26:16population they’re not even able to believe that  these kinds of things can even be happening but  

1:26:23these people they know and they want that secret  knowledge and it’s dark magic to them and they’re  

1:26:30working at understanding it and having those keys  given to them in order to do those things and so  

1:26:37I was going to be moved to the Salt Lake where I  was going to be used by the church and the church  

1:26:43leadership I’m not exactly sure what form but it  doesn’t seem good to me um and so yeah does that  

1:26:53make sense Emma yes thank you for sharing that  I’m so sorry that you had to go through that just  

1:26:59thinking about that child like mine you did a  good job kind of putting yourself in your shoes  

1:27:04as a child you know and it’s so sad to think that  you had to process all of that and such a quick  

1:27:11time at such a young age you know just over and  over and over again it’s just it’s unfathomable   to think about you know oh yeah and part of it  with their programming in my mind I perceive  

1:27:25that they even see themselves as being merciful  because that you don’t have to remember it you’re  

1:27:33able to forget what just happened but it still  lingers under the surface it’s still there it’s  

1:27:40just at the back of your mind behind a wall or  several walls thresholds are a big part of it all  

1:27:47moving through that threshold and understanding  what happened there so yeah and then I was um  

1:27:59so that was when I was 15 years old that I was  used in that presentation for Hinckley I was  

1:28:06about to turn 16. and that trip I was taking or  that that year so I met Hinckley that summer or  

1:28:15that spring that was in March towards the end of  March beginning April that that happened that I  

1:28:20met Hinckley and then I was sent to Disneyland uh  that summer for my last year of programming at the  

1:28:28Disneyland Park and so uh that was a really  bad summer and then um after programming at  

1:28:37the Disneyland Park I was taken back East with my  grandparents and that’s when I met Charlie Pride  

1:28:44um had a couple experiences with bird uh saw  bird over there um and that was the year that  

1:28:52he bought me that he bought me as a slave that  he paid for me and so that was a big year for me

1:29:07oh sorry Emma it’s all hard to talk about I know I  appreciate you shining a light on this it’s it’s  

1:29:17horrific you know and then just thinking about  again trying to process that as a child it’s like  

1:29:26it’s impossible to put yourself in those people’s  shoes you know it’s like there’s no empathy it’s  

1:29:32just stripped from people and it’s so terrible to  even try to comprehend you know what goes through  

1:29:38these people’s minds and to think about you know  what like the child you were you know and I just  

1:29:44want to say you know little J.R I know he’s proud  of you for being up here today and talking about  

1:29:50this and bringing Justice to his story and  and empowering other people yeah yeah he tried  

1:29:59before to speak out but they would he’d get shut  down pretty quick but 95 was when I met Hinckley  

1:30:08and I want to say Emma that it was 93 that I was  sold to the CIA in 93 and that that is when I was  

1:30:21um bought by Senator Byrd and 93 was the last  year that I went to Disneyland yeah and Disneyland  

1:30:33was a bad year that year it was close to my  birthday um going back to 93 and when I was  

1:30:44in 93 yeah when I met Gordon oh I’m trying to  remember how old I was at all of these times I’m  

1:30:54sorry it all gets a little bit jumbled even for me  after working through it all it’s really difficult  

1:31:00yeah but Disneyland that year um that was a bad  year and that was the year that I learned that I  

1:31:07was being sold to the CIA and they let me know  it before before I was my uncle had talked to  

1:31:15me about it and and so I was sold to bird that  year in 93 and I became an active CIA mind slave  

1:31:28now when you’re a mind slave for the CIA you  have different levels of what you’re going to  

1:31:35be used for and so I was used as a courier I was  used in porn and then later when I got older I  

1:31:45was used as an assassin I was used to get rid of  people and this is what I would call my Pentagon  

1:31:55level Black Operations experience because I was  tested by Dick Cheney of of all people that son  

1:32:04of a [ __ ] I hate that man he is a terrible  man and he tested me uh for my Pentagon level  

1:32:12uh Black Operations and that took place in my  hometown and was arranged through my grandfather  

1:32:19and for that I was made to murder a girl from my  high school they made me kill her and yeah it was  

1:32:28an absolutely horrible experience because they had  asked me my grandfather had asked me Emma who out  

1:32:38of everyone you know would you want to marry  and that is the girl that I was made to kill  

1:32:46it’s all about completely twisting everything  that you can ever imagine in one moment of time  

1:32:56and so Dick Cheney did that test and that  cleared me for Pentagon level operations and  

1:33:03the premise of that test was to prove that  I would do anything that they told me to do  

1:33:10that is what that was about for the reason that I  just gave you that to have to do that to someone  

1:33:18that you would want to be so close to you it was  a horrible and that cleared me for my Pentagon  

1:33:26level operation so and then I was used in Japan  and I was used again in Haley they’d tried to use  

1:33:33me on an operation in Boise uh but that didn’t go  well something for your listeners to understand uh  

1:33:42which may sound odd but um The One Drug there’s  a lot of drugs Emma in the program and in the  

1:33:49project they constantly are feeding you drugs they  call them potions back to the black magic concept  

1:33:57and they’re constantly feeding you these drugs and  they have different drugs for different purposes  

1:34:04one to wake you up one to put you to sleep one  to make you angry one to make you feel Invincible  

1:34:11Etc the one to Mellow you out as well yellow  mellow that’s what we used to call that and  

1:34:19they would feed you drugs constantly but the one  drug you weren’t allowed to have was marijuana  

1:34:26you were not allowed as a trauma-based mind slave  to have marijuana now not everyone in the project  

1:34:35let me rephrase that not everyone who is aware  that you’re in the project knows that they don’t  

1:34:44all know or understand why you’re not supposed to  have that because I would acquire that from people  

1:34:50even who knew that I was in the project but they  didn’t completely understand what that was all  

1:34:57about but what that that particular herb does is  it disrupts your programming somehow somehow it  

1:35:05it breaks it breaks down the programming so  that you’re able to have logic and use your  

1:35:12conscious mind and not lose your mind to them it’s  difficult to explain when I was in Boise and I was  

1:35:22on the rooftop my uncle had placed me there I was  supposed to shoot a guy who was going to come out  

1:35:28of a bar the neurologics yeah I’d been in the  bar I’d seen the Target and I was positioned on  

1:35:36the roof Zion’s Bank actually and Zions Bank was  well aware that the Central Intelligence Agency  

1:35:43was using their bank and they had arranged it with  Zion Zion’s own that started as a Mormon company  

1:35:52you know they don’t want us using the term Mormon  we’re supposed to call them Latter-Day Saints and   that’s all fine and dandy but I always knew  him as Mormon said so that’s a Mormon Bank  

1:36:01and I was positioned on Zions and I was supposed  to eliminate the target when he came out of the  

1:36:07bar at closing time well my programming broke  down one reason it broke down was I’d been smoking  

1:36:14marijuana with some friends of mine couple nights  before I’m not sure exactly how long before and  

1:36:22just that one time in that time frame was  enough to break the programming enough to  

1:36:30where it failed and so I was up there on the roof  now when I’d been sent into the bar so I had been  

1:36:36sent into the bar and I had was supposed to  lay eyes on the Target now Boise is where I  

1:36:42grew up I grew up in Nampa just outside of  Boise and so I have friends in that area  

1:36:49and I ran into the bar and when I was leaving  after I I deed the Target and seen him I went  

1:36:56to leave and my friends one of my good friends  older sisters was walking in the bar and she  

1:37:02was she was a little snocker she was a little  drunk and she saw me and we started talking and  

1:37:08I couldn’t sneak out I couldn’t get away from her  and so we talked for a little while and she almost  

1:37:16blew my cover Emma because I had a radio receiver  in my ear a device for listening and communicating  

1:37:24with my uncle who was out in a van outside of the  building a calms band and so she almost blew my  

1:37:31cover because she saw that calm’s device and she  said what are you and she was so drunk you know  

1:37:38the yeah and she was just a little gal and so it  didn’t take a whole lot and but a sweetheart of a  

1:37:45gal you know and so this really bothered my uncle  that she almost blew our cover and that she had  

1:37:52seen me at all because now she had seen me in the  bar and so I was positioned up on the roof and I  

1:37:58was finally told you are to not only eliminate the  target you’re also to shoot your friend’s sister  

1:38:06and you’re supposed to shoot everyone else in  front of the bar that you can hit with the ammo  

1:38:13that you have in this weapon and so I was supposed  to basically commit a mass shooting was going to  

1:38:20cover up this assassination we were going to cover  it up with a mass shooting I don’t know if they  

1:38:27even gave a damn if I was caught in all of that  and my programming broke down through all this  

1:38:34I was up there on the roof I was freezing it was  cold it was raining on me the wind was blowing and  

1:38:42my programming started to break down and my mind  could process you’re about to shoot your friend’s  

1:38:49sister like this something’s wrong and I just  couldn’t I couldn’t do it it all broke down and  

1:38:56I freaked out at my Uncle who was below me in the  van they closed off the parking area underneath us  

1:39:04on the building the buildings ions had its own  parking lot and a parking attendant was there  

1:39:10making sure that no one would come up to that  level that level was closed off my uncle was   parked there in the van and so we were working  in conjunction with the bank and my uncle he  

1:39:22got pissed when I got pissed because we started  you know when I would be in those personalities  

1:39:27Emma it was a different guy like I could be  mean and you know [ __ ] you Gail we got into  

1:39:35this big argument about what was going on and he  said you get down right now you just get off the  

1:39:41roof and so I got off the roof we aborted that  operation the but that man didn’t didn’t get to  

1:39:47live he was an individual from a foreign country  he was some kind of foreign National and he  

1:39:55we ended up getting him in um in Haley Idaho  he didn’t he survived that attempt but we got  

1:40:05him later and so unfortunately his whole family  went the second time we were I was made to to  

1:40:14eliminate not only him Emma but but everyone  there in the house and so and that was that’s  

1:40:22a terrible experience a terrible thing to talk  about these are the kinds of things that they do  

1:40:28and that’s why I’m so motivated Emma to talk about  it with people because it’s wrong I’m sure that I  

1:40:35have rambled and I apologize for that but these  things are wrong the Central Intelligence Agency  

1:40:44is sponsoring slavery and human trafficking drug  trafficking and murder and these things are wrong  

1:40:54and I’m a living witness to that and I have  tried to communicate this with law enforcement  

1:40:59and government officials and they’ve done  nothing but harass me and try to keep me quiet  

1:41:06and I’m not going to be quiet of all the  things that I’ve talked about it’s all wrong  

1:41:12and we as the people have to stand up and  understand that these things are happening  

1:41:21I know it’s really hard for people to even  comprehend that these things can happen  

1:41:27I I get that and that’s part of that’s part of  the Mind science of it is that it’s difficult  

1:41:36for the healthy human mind to even perceive  that anyone could go to that level is so bad  

1:41:45but they do and they are and they do it to their  own children and to other people’s children  

1:41:53and if we don’t do something then I just can’t  be quiet about it so I am I’m against it and all  

1:42:03those people that are in it they need to wake up  you know not everyone who’s in it even understands  

1:42:11what they’re involved with like we talked  about earlier my parents they don’t completely  

1:42:18understand everyone does it even those in the  project even Charlie Pride Charlie you know I I  

1:42:26hate Charlie Pride like I’m pissed at Charlie but  Charlie was messed up and even Charlie wanted out  

1:42:34he wanted out when I saw Charlie Pride because I  did Emma I was raped by Charlie Pride in backstage  

1:42:42he was backstage I was taken back there and I met  him and he signed my an autographed my picture  

1:42:48because I met him backstage my cousin and I both  did and I had carried a message to Charlie from my  

1:42:55uncle and he took that message with the key which  was the switchblade that I brought him and he  

1:43:03stuck it in my chest and that’s why my uncle had  stuck the knife in my chest and I could put it in  

1:43:08and that’s how I could take the message out that  was the key to that and so Charlie he tortured  

1:43:14me for a little while and he raped my cousin and  I he was not a good man but when we first walked  

1:43:22in the room Charlie was sitting at his desk  and he was writing there in his waiting room  

1:43:28and behind stage you know whatever we call it and  he was sitting there writing a letter and so here  

1:43:36I am carrying this secret message in my mind well  Charlie was sitting there writing a letter to bird  

1:43:45and this this letter was saying I want out of all  this you know this stuff is I’m done I don’t want  

1:43:54to do this stuff anymore I know that because  bird told me that when I saw him a little while  

1:44:00later because the next man in the project I can  remember seeing uh in the following day or days  

1:44:06was burned I met him at a memorial and so and  I gave I gave bird that letter that Charlie was  

1:44:14writing and Charlie wanted out but bird wouldn’t  let him out you know he was a slave too and so  

1:44:24it’s sad all these folks are all caught up in  it but there is hope for us There’s Hope For  

1:44:30Humanity more and more people are learning about  this stuff and more and more survivors are able  

1:44:37to work through it and able to come out and  talk and I don’t think that they can stop it  

1:44:45you know they’re Kathy O’Brien has a good way of  defining them they’re linear thinkers they are  

1:44:53they are linear thinkers and that’s helped  keep me alive to be honest about that they  

1:45:01are our such linear thinkers that yeah you  just have to know what they’re doing and so  

1:45:10but God’s also helped keep me alive and uh  I give a lot of credit to God in all of this  

1:45:17because without God I’d be dead if God didn’t want  this message being communicated then I would be  

1:45:24dead and that’s just how it would be they’ve  tried that several times you know to ensure  

1:45:32that it was most dangerous when I first started to  remember they tried to kill me several times and  

1:45:41and that was nerve-wracking we’ll just put it  that way but those are things that I was made to  

1:45:47do and so part of it is I was able to see it and  to understand that it was coming and to be able to  

1:45:54face that fact and part of it was God stepping in  because there were sometimes Emma when I remember  

1:46:03one time in particular I was dead to rights there  was a gunman and we were sitting in a restaurant  

1:46:10and I knew he was there to kill me and I  was armed and I’d gone out and I’d gotten  

1:46:15my handgun and I put it under my clothes  because I had to do everything I could but  

1:46:23I knew that if this guy was able to do what he  intended that that would have been it and God  

1:46:29stepped in and the circumstances weren’t  perfect for them to kill me on that day  

1:46:36part of it a lot of people are interested in  that that’s one of the reasons I’m talking about  

1:46:42it I’ve been asked well how can you stay alive  you have the government after you you’re dead  

1:46:48it’s a sensitive thing for the Central  Intelligence Agency or the Mormon church  

1:46:55or those affiliated with them to to get rid  of you because if they don’t do it right  

1:47:01they can get caught and that exposes  everything and so the more I’ve talked  

1:47:06about this the safer I am because if they whack  me now well now they have proven their story  

1:47:16so I thank God for all of his help in all of  that and for everyone’s help there’s been a lot  

1:47:23of support in the community and in the world and  I appreciate that and so uh Humanity has hope so

1:47:36God blessio that was such an uplifting  message to sort of follow so many dark  

1:47:43things you know because this stuff does get  dark and for people whether they’re they’ve  

1:47:48been digging in deep for a while or whether  they’re new to it you know this stuff has the  

1:47:54the low frequency to kind of suck your hope out  of you and to just think gosh there’s nothing you  

1:48:00know there’s no hope like we’re screwed and the  world is a dark place and it’s hell on Earth and  

1:48:05you know realizing that that’s exactly what they  want us to think you know they want us on a low  

1:48:10frequency and not realizing how beautiful this  world is and our powers of creating you know an  

1:48:16even better World by coming together and taking  the gifts that they’re trying to exploit and  

1:48:22using them for something good you know creation  creating our creating our way out of a bad world  

1:48:27and creating the world that we wish we lived  in you know and it’s such a great message to   remind people of that because we do have all the  power it’s them that don’t you know they’re weak  

1:48:37cowards who Gaslight us into feeling powerless  and their worst fear is to realize or is for us  

1:48:45to realize that we’re being gaslit and to say  uh-uh I’m not I’m not tolerating that anymore   I’m done with your abuse I’m taking my power  back and I’m gonna do something thing amazing  

1:48:55in this world you know and create something  that is going to uh Elevate Humanity instead of  

1:49:03perpetuating the abuse over and over again  you know so I really appreciate everything  

1:49:08that you do and the messages you know the stuff is  really hard and somehow you find a way to make it  

1:49:15somewhat lighthearted to where it’s digestible  for people and I really appreciate your way of   breaking everything down to Jr so thank you nice  thank you Emma yeah it is difficult to process so  

1:49:29yeah well I’d love to have you back on I know  we’re getting up to the two-hour Mark and I  

1:49:35want to be respectful of your time I know that we  could probably talk about a million other things   I wanted to see if there was anything else  that you did want to cover before we maybe  

1:49:42wrap up and to to let you know that I would  love to have you back for another discussion  

1:49:48um to dive into some some more of your experiences  and and some more education nice thank you Emma I  

1:49:55think we’ve covered everything for today yeah  and we can talk about that that would be good  

1:50:01yeah it’s nice to let people know so absolutely  and can you talk just a little bit before we get  

1:50:08off can you talk just a little bit about if you’re  on any other social media beside your blog and   then maybe give people just a little synopsis  of your blog and remind them of where they can  

1:50:18find that because I want people to support the  work that you’re doing also yeah thank you yeah  

1:50:24and so my blog Mormon monarch.com I call it my  website um that’s where I put my book essentially  

1:50:31and so and you can find that under writings on  past and those are all um journaled memories  

1:50:39that I have uh worked through and most of them  we’re talking months and years to work through  

1:50:47these things and so I tried to work through  as many as I can I’ve taken a break from it  

1:50:54um lately because you need a break once in  a while and so I will take breaks from it  

1:51:00but what I do is I gain the best understanding  that I can of those events and in my mind the  

1:51:08most important thing to share I can say  whatever I want but what I remember is so  

1:51:16important because that is what they’re doing  and so I can say for example their satanists  

1:51:24well why and through my writings I explain why  through what I remember of of living and working  

1:51:33with these people and and being made to be a  trauma-based mindslave and so my writings also  

1:51:42they I will write something out and if I remember  something that adds to the context of that writing  

1:51:52I come back to it and so uh Disneyland or my  meeting with Hinckley any of those things if if  

1:52:01one day it comes back to me oh well this happened  as well then I work on journaling that and then I  

1:52:08edit and adjust those memories accordingly and  what I’m working on is I’m going to put a book  

1:52:15together so those are all chapters of a book and  I will have that book published at some time in  

1:52:21the near future yeah because if if something  does happen to me let’s say I my heart stops  

1:52:30beating for some reason then a book is a hard copy  that can live on and other people can read it for  

1:52:38generations and it can be passed on a website  is something that’s more vulnerable a website  

1:52:46uh it runs in its course until it’s submit its uh  subscription is paid and so I will be publishing  

1:52:54a book because I feel like this information is  important for Humanity just for the people to know  

1:53:02it and to be able to remember it for generations  and understand it and I feel like it’s gonna take  

1:53:09him a generations for people to understand  this thing completely and for it to work its  

1:53:17way through our our social structure but I pray  that it does and so and I’m also on Facebook  

1:53:26um I’ve been on Twitter before but I’m  not on there right now I yeah I still  

1:53:33am a multiple and so sometimes I’ll start a  social media thing and then I get rid of it  

1:53:41I’m trying to be more stable so yeah wonderful I’m  gonna link all of that and if there’s any other  

1:53:49links that you think of or any specific article  pages that you want me specifically to link that  

1:53:54maybe can add context you can send it to me and  all I always try to do an extensive show notes   where people can just go click on all your links  so I encourage people to go follow and support Jr  

1:54:05you know this content none of it gets elevated in  the algorithms there’s nobody trying to help get  

1:54:10the word out on this except us you know it takes  you on the other side saying I’m gonna go visit  

1:54:15this website or I’m going to share this interview  I’m going to watch it all the way through and then   I’m gonna go share it with somebody else somehow  you know so we have to be the boots on the ground  

1:54:25spreading the word about this and I would love  for all of you guys to go share share our story   to go support his blog jar I’d love to have you  back on like I said especially to help promote  

1:54:34your book so let’s definitely get you back on uh  also whenever you do that that way we can drive   some traffic there and and you can talk about it  a little a little bit but that’s really exciting  

1:54:43too so we’ll have something to look forward to you  creating in the near future so you guys thank you  

1:54:48so much for tuning in Jr thank you for being  here God bless you all see you guys next week

BRM5 – Four more BRM short vids and Transcripts

These are 4 more short videos that Blood Ritual Monarch put on his channel, copied now to Odysee. The videos are in chronological order of date, presumably of uploading but the first is after he has visited Montauk, which obviously happened after the ones showing him at Montauk.
The two titled Haunted by the Menacing Tower and Blood Ritual Monarch Emerges From the Dark Tower are very similar but different in length, I have not studied the difference it is easier just to upload both, and they also have dates 6 months different.

Videos

This obviously came after visiting Montauk.

2013 Mar 16 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Goes to Montauk 5 m 12 s [29c]

The following two videos are very similar.

2013 Mar 17 Odysee Haunted By the Menacing Tower 1min 43 [28c]

2013 Sept 14 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Emerges From the Dark Tower at Montauk, Camp Hero 2013 [27c]

This presumably was going to be or was the title for the early books, later it just became Blood Ritual Monarch.

2014 Jun 21 Odysee Official Trailer: Tales of Demon Conjuring, Mind Control, and Madness 1m 51s [30c]

Previous Blood Ritual Monarch Posts

• 2020 April 5 cathyfoxblog Montauk Boys – Blood Ritual Monarch  [2]
• 2023 Jul 6 Foxes Extra Blog BRM 3 – Blood Ritual Monarch Interviewed by Stewart and Janet Swerdlow and Transcript [3]
• 2023 Jul 6 Foxes Extra Blog BRM 4 – BRM’s Book Release Question and Answers Party 2014 and Transcript [4]

Transcripts are after the links.

Links

[2] 2020 April 5 cathyfoxblog Montauk Boys – Blood Ritual Monarch  https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/04/05/montauk-boys-blood-ritual-monarch/

[3] 2023 Jul 6 Foxes Extra Blog BRM 3 – Blood Ritual Monarch Interviewed by Stewart and Janet Swerdlow and Transcript https://yabasta1.wordpress.com/2023/07/06/brm-3-blood-ritual-monarch-interviewed-by-stewart-and-janet-swerdlow-and-transcript/

[4] 2023 Jul 6 Foxes Extra Blog BRM 4 – BRM’s Book Release Question and Answers Party 2014 and Transcript https://yabasta1.wordpress.com/2023/07/06/brm-4-brms-book-release-question-and-answers-party-2014-and-transcript/

[27] 2013 Sept 14 BRM emerges from Montauk Tower 1min 38s

[27c] 2013 Sept 14 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Emerges From the Dark Tower at Montauk, Camp Hero 2013 https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/BRM-emerges-from-Montauk-Tower-2vttcfNaiFc:b 1 min 38 s

[28] 2013 Mar 17 Haunted By the Menacing Tower 1min 43 similar to [27]

[28c] 2013 Mar 17 Odysee Haunted By the Menacing Tower 1min 43 https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Haunted-By-the-Menacing-Tower-jRJoxDECb2I:f

[29] 2013 Mar 16 Blood Ritual Monarch Goes to Montauk 5 m 12 s

[29c] 2013 Mar 16 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Goes to Montauk 5 m 12 s https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Blood-Ritual-Monarch-Goes-to-Montauk-Hgv9oRTTp8E:e

[30] 2014 Jun 21 Official Trailer: Tales of Demon Conjuring, Mind Control, and Madness 1m 51s

[30c] 2014 Jun 21 Odysee Official Trailer: Tales of Demon Conjuring, Mind Control, and Madness 1m 51s https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Official-Trailer_-Tales-of-Demon-Conjuring,-Mind-Control,-and-Madness-UYHXNnlOGEk:1

Transcripts

2013 Mar 16 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Goes to Montauk 5 m 12 s [29c]

welcome everyone this is the follow-up

0:05 podcast to to our montauk trip that took

0:08 place about a week week and a half ago

0:10 and we wanted to share with you some of

0:12 the artifacts that we were fortunate

0:14 enough to obtain and also try and

0:16 explain the significance we think they

0:18 have

0:19 but let’s start by framing things

0:22 much like the titanic

0:24 exhibitions that travel around the

0:26 country with their artifacts uh similar

0:28 to the uh the teacup that the captain

0:30 drank out of before they hit the berg

0:34 or even

0:35 the plate

0:37 that the unsinkable molly brown ate off

0:39 of on that fateful night

0:41 it’s more like a dish isn’t it and we’re

0:43 going to be talking about

0:45 radar dishes so

0:46 there’s a nice little

0:48 segue into dishes so

0:51 let’s start with the minor artifacts

0:55 i was lucky enough to

0:57 bump into two

0:59 locking mechanisms on the floor of the Minor artifacts

1:01 tower

1:02 and i selected them because

1:05 they were small enough to fit my pocket

1:07 i didn’t want to take piping or tubes or

1:09 anything too cumbersome i was nervous

1:12 the whole time about being caught you

1:14 know how do you explain you know

1:16 rummaging around in an old you know

1:18 military base uh

1:19 being bailed out of jail just just not a

1:21 good thing so i was nervous the whole

1:24 time and also creeped out freaked out by

1:26 the place so these two things fit in my

1:28 pockets

1:29 after the fact i realized maybe they had

1:31 some significance

1:32 uh you know locks

1:35 unlocking memories

1:36 so i realized it was just perfect timing

1:40 and uh serendipity i did wrap one up in

1:43 plastic just because i wanted to carry

1:45 around my pocket

1:47 hopefully the memories would kind of you

1:49 know seep into me

1:51 and i wrapped wrapped this up and kind

1:53 of looks creepy actually now

1:56 but the other one is heavily corroded so

1:58 we’re going to do something else with

1:59 that Major artifacts

2:00 the first night i i put this in my

2:02 pajama pocket

2:04 and i wanted to sleep with it and even

2:06 while watching tv and drinking wine i i

2:09 was triggered and whether it was the

2:10 lock or not it wasn’t pretty so i’m not

2:12 going to be

2:14 playing with this for a while

2:16 but the major find is the dish fragment

2:19 originally this was one piece and we

2:21 just tore it apart

2:23 just for ease of

2:25 eating under the fence there

2:28 this is

2:29 a fragment of this dish here

2:32 and i might add that the water

2:34 tower has been stripped down uh you

2:36 might have if you’ve watched the the

2:38 video

2:39 it looks completely different so this

2:40 this part here is gone i don’t know what

2:42 happened to it if it was uh

2:44 if it was weather or maybe somebody came

2:46 in and stripped it down

2:48 so

2:49 these fragments are part of this dish

2:52 and all of the frequencies that were

2:54 beamed

2:55 through the dish out to the public uh to

2:58 the individuals that were experimenting

2:59 on

3:01 this metal is encoded with those

3:02 frequencies fascinating

3:05 to think about but also dangerous

3:08 because

3:09 you know we don’t know what astral smoke

3:12 is going to be seeping out of this

3:14 it could be specific to individuals that

3:16 have resonance with it

3:18 and also on a physical level this is

3:20 corroded you look at it the wrong way

3:21 you’re going to cut yourself so

3:23 it’s dangerous all around

3:25 we’ve got some broad mergers here to

3:26 help us out

3:28 and what i wanted to do

3:30 well

3:31 actually before that i wanted to just

3:32 give my own two cents on

3:34 uh

3:35 there was a um

3:37 at the beginning of the original podcast

3:38 there was a cab driver that explained

3:40 uh to us a couple of years ago in

3:42 montauk the dish was actually moving

3:44 this dish rather was moving on its own

3:47 the military came in i’m not going to go

3:50 over that again but the dish was moving

3:51 by itself and many folks came in to

3:54 corroborate that

3:56 no one could have moved it so it’s my

3:58 opinion that the folks in antarctica

4:01 station 211

4:03 they are controlling the tower right now

4:06 and um

4:07 well time will tell just to finish

4:09 things off i wanted to uh to say that

4:11 we’re going to donate

4:13 a portion of this to

4:15 anjanae and uncle stuart that expansions

4:18 so we’re going to be either mailing or

4:20 delivering this in person

4:22 to them

4:26 and

4:27 this will go in there

4:29 i think it’s located in their basement

4:31 uh they do have an artifact room there i

4:33 think it might be next to stewart’s gym

4:34 i’m not quite sure uh but this will be

4:37 in addition to their artifact room i

4:38 spoke to stuart and he’s thrilled to

4:40 have a piece of the dish

4:42 and

4:44 you know we came back in one piece

4:46 uh being around those vibrations a lot

4:48 of you folks might think that you know

4:50 why would anyone want to go there

4:52 but we were drawn there

4:54 and

4:55 you know the universe has its plan so

4:57 and we’re not schizos yet

4:59 so we’ll see what happens but we’ll let

5:01 you know if things get freaky

5:04 and thanks for tuning in

5:10 you

2013 Mar 17 Odysee Haunted By the Menacing Tower 1min 43 [28c]

okay uh an excellent fine before we

0:08 leave for the last time as you can see

0:12 parts of the tower have corroded rusted

0:15 and fallen to the ground like a

0:19 patchwork quilt there so one of these

0:22 pieces see right here very dangerous of

0:28 course updated tetanus shots are

0:29 recommended but you’ve got a piece of

0:33 the tower we’re taking out and talk

0:37 about having something encoding you know

0:39 with the frequency of the place not that

0:40 that’s so much desirable but there is a

0:44 purpose to it so piece of the tower it’s

0:49 a great fine and just a really creepy

0:52 place very nervous in there I was

0:55 hearing things just want to get the hell

0:57 out of the not gonna try and be a big

1:00 man and say it wasn’t scary it was it’s

1:01 just freaky and I just want to get out

1:03 of here I love the feeling of the

1:07 adrenaline and the fear it stops time it

1:11 makes you feel like the past in the

1:13 future don’t matter and you’re just in

1:14 that moment and I think that’s what

1:16 soldiers go through and when they get

1:18 addicted to war and they want to go back

1:20 because when you get back to you know

1:23 everyday life your body Idol is not

1:26 matching with everyone else and you just

1:27 feel out of place so the rush is

1:30 wonderful but this place also has a

1:33 creepiness to it ice point get on

2013 Sept 14 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Emerges From the Dark Tower at Montauk, Camp Hero 2013 [27c]

okay uh an excellent fine before we

0:04 leave for the last time as you can see

0:08 part two the tower have corroded rusted

0:12 and fallen to the ground like a

0:16 patchwork quote there so one of these

0:19 pieces see right here very dangerous of

0:24 course updated tetanus shots are

0:26 recommended but we’ve got a piece of the

0:30 power we’re taking out and talk about

0:33 having something encoding you know with

0:35 the frequency of the place not that

0:37 that’s so much desirable but there is a

0:40 purpose to it so piece of the tower it’s

0:45 a great find and just a really creepy

0:49 place very nervous in there I was

0:51 hearing things just want to get the hell

0:53 out of there not gonna try and be a big

0:56 man and say it wasn’t scary it was it’s

0:58 just freaky and I just want to get out

0:59 of here I love the feeling of the

1:04 adrenaline and the fear it stops time it

1:07 makes you feel like the past in the

1:09 future don’t matter and you’re just in

1:11 that moment and I think that’s what

1:12 soldiers go through and when they get

1:15 addicted to war and they want to go back

1:16 because when you get back to you know

1:19 everyday life did your body Idol is not

1:22 matching with everyone else and you just

1:24 feel out of place so the rush is

1:26 wonderful but this place also has a

1:29 creepiness to it x 1 get on

2014 Jun 21 Odysee Official Trailer: Tales of Demon Conjuring, Mind Control, and Madness 1m 51s [30c]

hello everyone my name is blood ritual

0:08 monarch and I’m here to tell you about

0:09 my autobiography tales of demon

0:11 conjuring mind control and madness the

0:15 book chronicles my paranormal

0:16 experiences with spirit invocation in

0:18 the occult as well as the 20 years of

0:21 psychic chaos these misadventures

0:22 created I spent almost two decades

0:25 afflicted with frightening and

0:27 destructive blackout episodes which

0:28 could be described as demonic possession

0:31 after finding notes ring to myself

0:33 during these periods of amnesia I was

0:35 led on a journey into the shadowy world

0:37 of high-tech black magic and ultimately

0:39 to a derelict radar tower at the tip of

0:41 Long Island New York a chance meeting

0:44 with a woman I met at a conspiracy

0:46 website led me some 9,000 miles from

0:48 home to the southern hemisphere where I

0:50 reside today it was here in New zein

0:52 where I began to heal and document the

0:54 experiences you’ll find in this book if

0:56 you’re into the paranormal the occult or

0:59 any manner of conspiracy theory then the

1:02 stories for you you can find it a

1:04 variety of formats in distributors

1:06 including kindle Kobo look and also in

1:10 hard copy you can also get an

1:12 autographed copy of my website blood

1:14 virtual marcom the website also has lots

1:17 of free content including video

1:19 photographs of form as well as my latest

1:23 series of blog entries titled project

1:25 exorcism some have doubted the veracity

1:29 of my story however I’m not out to prove

1:31 anything you can accept or reject as you

1:34 see fit take it as truth or fiction

1:37 thanks for your time and feel free to

1:39 contact me through my website or email

1:42 brm at blood virtual monarch calm

BRM 4 – BRM’s Book Release Question and Answers Party 2014 and Transcript

2014 Apr 13 Odysee 2014 Apr 13 Book Release Party of BRM’s New Book [26c]

Previous Blood Ritual Monarch Posts

• 2020 April 5 cathyfoxblog Montauk Boys – Blood Ritual Monarch  [2]
• 2023 Jul 6 Foxes Extra Blog BRM 3 – Blood Ritual Monarch Interviewed by Stewart and Janet Swerdlow and Transcript [3]

Links

[2] 2020 April 5 cathyfoxblog Montauk Boys – Blood Ritual Monarch  https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/04/05/montauk-boys-blood-ritual-monarch/

[3] 2023 Jul 6 Foxes Extra Blog BRM 3 – Blood Ritual Monarch Interviewed by Stewart and Janet Swerdlow and Transcript https://yabasta1.wordpress.com/2023/07/06/brm-3-blood-ritual-monarch-interviewed-by-stewart-and-janet-swerdlow-and-transcript/

[26c] 2014 Apr 13 Odysee 2014 Apr 13 Book Release Party of BRM’s New Book https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Book-Release-Party-Of-Blood-Ritual-Monarch’s-New-Book-iukCFnIME7M:b

[26] 2014 Apr 13 Book Release Party of BRM’s New Book 1hr 15min

Transcript

l just no lights on okay so hello folks and welcome to the

0:12 release party for my autobiography tales of demon conjuring mind control and madness

0:18 i’m blood rachel monarch and we’re broadcasting live from new zealand it’s uh sunday afternoon here and i suspect

0:25 saturday evening or saturday night where you are and i even miss church for this event so

0:30 it’ll have to be good we do apologize for the technical issues um but we do have a very interesting

0:37 event plan and your participation will definitely enhance the experience so we’re going to explain how to log into

0:43 chat if you’re if you’re not logged in already and um how do we lock in the chat

0:50 should we go to the home screen so go to the home screen and on the left hand side you’ll see a tab for

0:57 uh for home hover your cursor over home and then you’ll see live event uh click on that

1:04 and uh then that will lead you to the chat room correct and uh hopefully you’re logging in now

1:12 um now by the way uh we do have a um a winner of our autographed copy of the

1:17 book it’s james bond james bonifant james are you there

1:24 congratulations man uh what we’re going to be doing is uh the books are going to be coming from the states here to new zealand and then

1:31 i’m going to autograph and then send right away to you it could take up to a month because it does take a couple of weeks um going across the ocean so rest

1:38 assured you will be getting that um appreciate your patience um so what we’re going to do today is um

1:45 while we’re fielding questions from chat uh we’ll be going over the book itself uh the genesis of the book how it came

1:50 to be uh and then also going over um the chapters themselves just a brief summary of the chapters but once again the more

1:57 questions you ask the more interesting it’ll be uh so definitely get involved and um and we’ll begin

2:05 so james is there okay and how the book came into being

2:11 um i’m not quite sure if you’ve been reading my blog but it did explain

2:16 uh what i had gone through for about 15 years with uh with blackouts

2:22 and all sorts of problems uh psychologically and when i did move to new zealand uh

2:28 the issues continued but when i i woke up on

2:34 after a particularly bad blackout and my organs were hurting and i knew i’d been drinking too much

2:40 and i couldn’t continue my lifestyle in that fashion so my fiance suggested i

2:45 start writing as a way to vent whatever issues i had and so i started the blog

2:51 and then after about six seven months i realized i had enough material for a book and uh that’s when the whole idea for

2:57 the book um came into being and that took several more months of pretty fervent obsessive uh you know getting up

3:04 at uh three four o’clock in the morning writing editing and uh getting off to work and um it was pretty pretty

3:11 exhausting uh process but uh now the book is uh is here after many different uh versions so we’ve got got a

3:18 flesh and blood book here and james as we said you’re going to be the first one the next two folks to log into

3:24 chat will receive uh free kindle copies of the book

3:29 and i’m here with louise my fiance who started all of this and who’s also the technical expert so she’ll be uh chiming

3:36 in and uh giving me advice because i’m a bit too old for this stuff so um and also she’s here to field

3:43 questions as well if you’d like to know what it’s like to live with me and get an honest opinion from someone other

3:48 than myself because obviously i’ll paint the picture in a much rosier fashion because who wouldn’t

3:54 um so what we’ll do is uh we’ll start by going over the chapters of the book

4:00 and i’ll explain that a little bit uh the first chapter itself is is called

4:06 the demon’s call and i was about 23 at the time

4:11 and i was into bodybuilding i was obsessed with that i was a night shift security guard

4:16 and um i knew that i had to take steroids to compete on the professional level and

4:23 anything that i did and still do is is very much to the extreme um as you get questions cut in

4:30 um so i knew that i had to take steroids and my addictive nature would take over and i would likely die

4:36 at a very young age so i prepared myself for the afterlife because i knew i’d be meeting it uh much sooner than most

4:42 folks um that that was my thinking at the time to the best of my recollection uh so

4:49 what i did is i started reading about um the afterlife the first book was hans holzer it’s called the um something of

4:56 the life after i can’t remember i remember the author though so i read holter’s book um

5:01 it was on spiritual uh mediumship and then i found myself getting

5:06 obsessed with the subject and then i went off to the bookstore i think it was barnes and noble or borders

5:12 and um in a matter of weeks i was actually buying up uh all sorts of books on magic

5:19 aleister crowley and and then it went into satanic stuff

5:24 and i was very curious to see if there were entities or other beings on other dimensional levels

5:30 so i decided to to summon demonic energies

5:36 not to hurt anyone with them but just to to see if they existed it was more of a scientific experiment for

5:42 me uh so i happened upon a book called the galatia which is a grimoire or a magical

5:50 spell book if you will to evoke demonic energies to to bring them into the third dimension of the physical

5:56 sphere um at least as much as they could manifest um so i built a conjuring mirror

6:02 um for the book and um you know once once that was built it took several weeks to build and uh

6:08 quite a bit of um craftsmanship uh expertise that i didn’t have so i asked

6:14 my dad to help out with it i had some friends help out as well uh the mirror was uh a white uh

6:21 triangular shape uh of wood and it had a black mirror in the middle that was spray

6:26 painted and the theory behind that is that the the black spray paint the black mirror itself because it was dark uh

6:32 would allow the entities to manifest um that’s to the best of my recollection

6:37 a lot of you folks might be much more versed in magic than i am uh after my negative experiences i i avoided it

6:44 completely so this is just based on recall and i’m definitely not an expert magician

6:50 i had some bad experiences and they lasted for quite a long time so i didn’t attempt to evoke spirits uh after that

6:57 um at the beginning when i did the evocation rituals um nothing happened quite honestly i

7:04 don’t think i had the psychic sensitivity to pick up on the um whatever was manifesting

7:10 so i thought i didn’t didn’t get any results nothing was happening so i decided to continue the experience

7:16 um and i i did the conjuring rituals for weeks and weeks on end uh thinking that

7:22 okay if nothing happens i’m just going to keep doing it until it does happen um and then things started to happen my bed

7:30 started to shake i felt invisible hands on me

7:35 the the room would get ice cold one particular thing that did occur was that

7:42 my thought patterns i became very negative uh very angry um my thoughts were just clouded with

7:49 doom and gloom and and a kind of a vicious rage and that was one thing that i realized

7:55 many years later was that the entities were affecting me on a mental level um i think even before i started the

8:01 conjuring experiments um so you know with the bed shaking and things happening my roommates come

8:07 into the room they they lie on the bed and you know as the bed shook uh they would get freaked out and leave the room

8:13 and became afraid of me and one even slept with a with a knife um next to his bed i was never violent

8:20 but anyway uh people it wasn’t going on just in my head let’s put it that way uh

8:26 so after the um after those experiments um and this kind of created the slip stream

8:32 of sorts i stopped the conjuring experiments after i was um invisibly sodomized for lack of

8:38 a better way to describe it i was being touched and i felt like i was you know being raped at night

8:45 obviously that stopped the conjuring experiments but it didn’t stop the the experiences themselves

8:51 things continued to touch me and of course the issues in the bedroom uh continued as well

8:58 so my roommates moved out and uh and sure enough i had some strange folks move in

9:04 in the meantime i did meet a woman um at a party and we had quite an interesting exchange

9:11 and then she lived in new york so she went back to new york ultimately she moved back to to live with me

9:18 and i married her i’ll get into that in a little bit but let’s just say that

9:26 the energies were quite intense and i couldn’t stop it

9:31 so once again my roommates moved out and then some oto folks moved in that’s the ordo temple orientis and that’s a

9:37 fraternal organization founded by alistair crowley and you know crowley i’m sure many of you do

9:43 um and these folks moved in and they were seriously freaky and then i moved

9:48 out very shortly thereafter i left all of my furniture behind everything it was just it was just too

9:54 freaky for me and the only thing i took with me was the um the table that i used to summon the spirits

10:00 so i took that table with me which is a makeshift altar and um

10:05 brought that along and little did i realize that the energy of the table um

10:10 you know was going to affect me for quite a long time afterwards um so i moved in with the woman that i

10:15 met at the party and uh quite a bit occurred after that um

10:21 and then we were together for several years and then what occurred after that was we

10:28 had seen the movie fight club together fight club as many of you might know has

10:33 heavy uh mind control symbolism mind control triggers if mind control even exists i

10:39 don’t know um but uh fight club uh cracked a mental dam of sorts in my

10:45 mind and as a result i started uh blacking out

10:50 and these blackouts occurred intermittently at first

10:56 i would just wake up that i would drink too much wake up the next day and of course be in big trouble with my

11:01 my um wife to be um she was pretty freaked out by but we were young and crazy and just uh kind of wrote it off

11:07 at the beginning um but that that movie just obsessed me i went to go see fight club numerous

11:14 times at least six seven times every friday after work i get paid and i go see fight club um so

11:21 uh the blackouts once again they were intermittent i wouldn’t say that they were you know happening each and every

11:26 weekend i wasn’t seeking them out they were just kind of happening to me versus uh you know wanting them to happen which would

11:33 occur much much later um and during that period i was um

11:39 i was um trying to find ways to get my kundalini to activate because the kundalini is an energy center in your

11:45 spine and i was trying to get that to activate again because it had occurred when i first started summoning the demons and

11:53 it was quite a blissful experience so what i did was

11:58 i tried to find any way i could to to get that to happen on a regular basis and basically when your kundalini rises

12:05 you go into the spirit realm and you have visions so i wanted that to happen i was rather obsessed with it

12:11 and i knew that somehow spiders were connected to that and you might be thinking how is that possible um but um

12:21 i did get some tarantulas african baboon tarantulas and because i was afraid of them and that

12:27 was my mindset at the time go into anything that scares you so with the tarantulas i meditated next

12:35 to them and i thought that somehow this fear might be connected to my

12:40 my issues or my obsession with the the spirit world and um after there was one particular evening

12:47 where i was going into a blackout and i cut myself and fed the blood

12:52 to the spiders hoping that um you know somehow i would connect with them or commune with them

12:58 that was my line of thinking at the time um that was a pretty pretty extreme event i almost had to get stitches and

13:03 then still have the scar today um but but that was the beginning of a downward spot a spiral of blackouts and all sorts

13:11 of behavior i’d be cutting myself wiping the blood on walls crying uh it was it was a pretty pretty

13:17 difficult time and it just it didn’t stop for you know almost 15 years

13:23 um then i moved into a house in rhode island with my ex well she’s my ex now

13:28 um and then what ensued was just continuous blackouts every weekend i would seek to

13:34 black out and to escape my body to escape um something some kind of turmoil that

13:40 was within um all i knew is that i needed to do it i needed to blackout

13:47 so that was something i would just obsess on i’d work all week i had a commute from rhode island to boston

13:52 which was four hours round trip pretty crazy i know one would think why not just get a job in rhode island but

13:58 i’m very routine oriented and i didn’t want to change things so i’ll go go to work i didn’t black out

14:04 during the week and on the weekends i would drink heavily and just disappear

14:10 uh this went on for about i would say 2 000

14:15 2010 was when i contacted a the programmer i was reading this book about

14:21 mind control which i didn’t realize also had a connection to demonology it was just

14:27 another subject that i happened upon online became obsessed with it and was seeking out books on mind control so i

14:34 was reading this book that had um all these symptoms on the back um you know the flashing lights affect

14:40 you uh do you have experiences with um you know energies do you have you know alien

14:46 abduction experiences all sorts of symptoms that were on the back of the book and um

14:52 i i thought maybe i my issue was mind control i don’t know how i made the connection because it didn’t mention

14:57 demons too too much um but um so i decided to compile

15:03 all of my life information um and send it to this guy to see what he thought and in the beginning i was i

15:10 was a bit apprehensive because i didn’t want to be embarrassed about it you know you’re just surfing too many you know

15:15 mind control websites there’s nothing wrong with you that’s what i thought he might say so i finally put um you know all of this

15:21 together uh and then i emailed it to him uh for a consultation and when he came

15:27 back to me it was shocking i mean he said that i was definitely under heavy mind control i can’t prove

15:34 that i certainly can’t prove it uh but he said i was mind controlled and all of my issues with demon conjuring

15:41 all of my issues with um you know blacking out cutting myself i mean i would

15:46 go into these states i’d wake up from blackouts with candles lit i would wake up you know with blood on the walls the

15:53 word lucifer written all sorts of freaky stuff that uh you might think is you know outrageous so

15:58 you don’t believe it but you know that that’s what happened for quite a long time um

16:04 so when i got this back from this consultation back i was just shocked and i thought okay i you know maybe this is what’s wrong

16:10 with me how can i fix it but at the same time i was also i needed the blackouts i just i needed to go into

16:17 these states because i was too uncomfortable in my own skin so so it was a tough spot for me you

16:22 know i wanted to be healthier uh psychologically but at the same time i needed the blackout so i i didn’t know

16:28 how to reconcile the two um so this person and i have this deep programmer

16:34 we began a friendship we emailed you know five six seven times a day i told him everything about me my entire life

16:41 um and uh he didn’t try to sell me anything he was very good about that i thought maybe he had an agenda but um he

16:47 was just a very good person very supportive but after about eight months i i got to a

16:53 point where i was blacking out much much worse after i received this information that i

16:59 had possibly had mind control programming and as a result um

17:05 it got so bad i would send him such crazy emails that he had to back away in the communication and he stopped

17:11 talking to me because he knew i was just off the rails and out of control um

17:17 several weeks after that um you know i um i lost it i mean my ex

17:22 came in one day she’s very upset and i just i left i packed my bags and left i couldn’t stay in that marriage anymore i

17:28 was very unhappy in it i moved into my office at work and starting sleeping on the floor which

17:34 i thought i could never do and wouldn’t be brave enough to do that so i lived on the floor for about a

17:39 month and then i found an apartment and i started fresh

17:44 unfortunately i also was drinking even more heavily then because i didn’t have someone i was living with giving me the

17:51 evil eye about drinking too much so i i wasn’t managing my drinking at all and it got much much worse

17:57 i moved into an old school house that was renovated into apartments and it was old school for the deaf i

18:04 found out and there were definitely entities there as well same type of stuff things touching me

18:11 all sorts of you know bizarre experiences there and then i started online dating as well

18:18 and i met some pretty freaky women um you know on the the data cougar website

18:23 and match.com uh but then again i was telling them what i was into i was blacking out and

18:28 typing stuff into the computer so anyone that was interested in me obviously was into the same stuff and might have the

18:34 same issues tell them about the french lady uh there was a woman in actually montreal

18:39 who um she would speak french to me and i would immediately black out when i

18:44 heard the french language i had no idea what she was saying but we actually fought and we would

18:51 speak on the telephone and we would fight and i would i would immediately black out after she started speaking french

18:57 she get upset and she she’d go into french and then um i don’t know what what the issue was

19:02 there but something about the french language uh triggered me um so she was we never met face to face

19:09 but then there were other women uh who i did meet that did um you know meet me face to face and i do write

19:15 about that in the book i’d rather not go into that right now some other bizarre sexual experiences yeah i prefer if you

19:21 didn’t so i’m not talking about it now uh so then

19:26 after um after those experiences i finally found enough stability to um

19:31 to go to montauk and i’ll circle back just a little bit to the blackouts uh when i was blacking out in rhode

19:38 island i would scribble things on paper um i’m lucifer you know i’m the demons

19:44 on me it was all it was from all sorts of different perspectives and personas i’d wake up from the blackouts and find

19:50 these notes written and it would be pretty freaky pretty scary to see that you’re writing these

19:55 things when you’re in a completely unconscious state and one of the words that came up on a

20:02 regular basis was montauk it didn’t make sense to me at the time

20:07 you know what does this word mean i know it was a place um and i would see montauk over and over

20:12 again montauk and the word rape um and lots of angry satanic stuff

20:18 so when this occurred i i you know would throw the notes away i would i would soak them in water i’d do all sorts of

20:25 weird things because i didn’t want anyone to to know what i was writing down just my ex knew and of

20:30 course she um would lock herself in the bedroom i was never violent towards her by the way um but uh so this word

20:36 montauk came up over and over again and while i was speaking to the programmer i mentioned this to him of

20:43 course and he said that um you might be connected to the montauk project which is um

20:48 kind of an infamous alleged mind control program that occurred in the 1970s and

20:54 early 80s and these young boys were programmed to be assassins

21:00 uh to be killers jeffrey dahmer might have been one of them um he has some seriously

21:05 similar symptoms nothing i’m saying i did what he did but in any event um this whole connection to the montauk

21:12 project had can the suspicion of it had continued um you know right after i started uh

21:18 contacting the programmer so it was in the back of my mind that i might want to visit this place it was an old air force

21:26 facility at the tip of long island new york a very isolated place and of course i read anything and everything i could

21:32 on the montauk project so this research was going on you know after i had left my ex

21:39 and of course while i was was living at the apartment and once again i finally found enough

21:45 stability to plan a trip there so i i had some time off of work got some vacation time coming and i went to

21:51 montauk in september of 2011 and i can’t say that that it triggered

21:57 any memories but i can say that um i had some pretty bizarre experiences there the blood

22:04 that inexplicably um appeared on the sheets in the hotel uh all sorts of um dream state

22:10 experiences that were definitely not your average dreams uh so i shot footage of my trip to

22:16 montauk and uh you can find that on my website um so so that experience i’m not quite

22:22 sure what occurred but afterwards i i once again uh i became worse i was cutting myself

22:28 again so a downward spiral just just got deeper and deeper

22:33 after that montauk trip and then i started interacting with a woman that i had met

22:40 on the the programmers website so she frequented the website quite a bit and then i started speaking with her she’s

22:47 an older woman very knowledgeable in mind control and we started emailing each other i told

22:53 her about my experiences she was a very nice lady but once again i was still drinking and i

22:59 would email her some pretty freaky stuff maybe laced with a bit of sexual innuendo perhaps um

23:04 and she knew what was happening she she saw that i was triggered and to be triggered is to go into a different

23:10 persona even if it’s even if mind control is true i don’t know if it’s even real um

23:15 but she was pretty freaked out by my behavior and she said overwhelmed by it

23:21 so as a result she said she was friends with a man in um

23:27 in new zealand uh a guy in new zealand that she was interacting with i didn’t know anyone across the other side of the world but she asked him if he would mind

23:34 communicating with me because we’re very similar we’re the exact same age with the same issues we were searching for

23:40 meaning in life and we both had this connection to mind control uh so she contacted him

23:46 and said would you mind talking to this guy is a bit crazy but you know you might uh both find some you know find

23:52 some peace by just sharing your experiences uh so he and i started emailing each other

23:58 and um of course became great friends we’re still friends to this day um i just saw him this weekend and he

24:05 kept mentioning this woman that was also um someone that was on the programmers

24:11 website this name i can’t mention because we’re squabbling at the moment uh but um

24:16 he mentioned his name is seth in the book he mentioned this woman that was also in new zealand and she’s very interesting i saw her name

24:23 and i decided i i’d like to talk to her as well uh and i kept saying you know introduce

24:29 me to her and uh he kept ignoring it for some reason he kept uh sidestepping these um

24:35 these mentions through email excuse me so finally he gave me her

24:42 email address he he course contacted her first to see if she’d be you know interested in speaking to this crazy person

24:48 uh and she agreed to it she was in a relationship at the time and so was i but it quickly became romantic and put

24:55 us both in a tough spot so you know once we started interacting um

25:00 you know being someone that’s very extreme and obsessive i i tried to woo her i used everything i could with words

25:06 i fancy myself pretty good with words when i need to be as far as you know being persuasive

25:12 so five months after our um initial email i was um on a plane to new zealand and

25:18 here i am now almost three years later still here uh and then that circles back to

25:24 um the book itself because um i had still been up to my nonsense with blacking out for about a year and a half

25:30 until my organs started to hurt and i knew i had to stop drinking and i think she was getting sick of the nonsense as well

25:36 um so having been in new zealand and then starting the blog this is what really has helped me heal

25:42 a lot of folks have called it an ego trip or why are you sharing this all i can say is i’ve been paranoid for

25:49 a good part of my life about writing down dreams or talking to anybody about these experiences for fear

25:55 of being committed or or what have you losing my job so just sharing it and

26:01 getting it out there has has vented a sort of psychic chaos within me and it’s kept me stable

26:09 i’m much better i’m still the same person to a degree but i’m much healthier now and that’s a

26:14 result of sharing the experience just writing the book definitely uh correlates with that

26:19 so that’s the reason i’m sharing this and that’s the reason i wrote the book and will continue to write

26:25 there’s a whole lot more in between i didn’t share of course because you know i’d like you to read the book and let me know what you think

26:31 a lot of folks have read the blog they’ve had great feedback on that and if somebody reads it and is entertained

26:36 that’s fantastic if it has a deeper meaning to you that then all the better um

26:42 so after um of course you know finishing the book i decided i’d like to

26:48 to start writing horror fiction perhaps that stuff always seems to filter through my mind maybe i

26:53 can take advantage of it um and also i recently did a radio show uh with a

26:59 fellow um over in australia who seems to think i’m possessed whatever that means

27:04 and uh he and i are discussing possibly me going over there for an exorcism um what i can say is that i don’t

27:10 necessarily believe i’m possessed if you want to call it that anything you know as far as

27:16 the the exorcist or anything of that nature like horror films i might have some spirit attachments

27:21 but um it would be an interesting experience i think to to go over to australia just to

27:27 see what would happen internally psychologically um with uh you know with

27:32 this so-called exorcism um and and then write about it you know as another adventure and it’s something i’m

27:38 trying to get closer to my memories something happened in my childhood i don’t know what it is i can’t seem to

27:44 remember i’ve had flashes of things but there’s a whole lot more there that i haven’t uh uncovered

27:50 so as a result maybe this exorcism if it does something to me psychologically

27:55 will um will reveal some memories i don’t know i mean i’m still adventurous i was a bit reckless when i conjured the

28:01 demons maybe doing this is reckless as well but if there’s a chance to get some

28:06 answers then i’m willing to take the risk um so that’ll be the next stop for me um

28:11 you know doing that and continuing to write as far as the book goes it it’s it’s at

28:18 299 at the moment on kindle and it’s that’s at 12

28:23 in print and these lower prices will be in effect you know for a short period so

28:28 take advantage of it uh get a copy of the book read the whole story i’ve only you know scratched the surface here

28:33 um and uh if you do read it i’d be greatly appreciated if you could put a

28:39 short review up on my amazon office page and i’ve got some ideas for other books aside from the the exorcism experience

28:45 so i hope you continue to check out the blog and and the website as well

28:52 and um aside from that uh for those of you that have been reading my blog i really appreciate it

28:57 i’ve had some great feedback lots of uh supportive words and i’ve made some great friends as well

29:03 um with the humorous aspect i tend to speak you know i joke a bit online and i i

29:10 tend to skirt with skirt the the boundary as far as you know am i

29:15 really supporting this demonic stuff or am i trying to get away from it the healing process is is never you know

29:22 a straight line it can be very asymmetrical i’m doing it my own way i’m definitely healthier now that i’ve

29:28 been writing uh but yes the subject the subject of the occult and demons i’m still

29:34 fascinated by that because i haven’t healed i think i haven’t found the memories i need that are connected to that so yes i still write about it and i

29:42 if i joke it’s not because this is all a hoax or sham or i’m being cavalier it’s

29:47 you need humor you need levity um humor dispels the negative energies it

29:52 really does so what has the um people your readers um take on your book being so far what feedback have you had

30:00 excellent feedback so far i’ve got three reviews up and lots of other folks that are in the process of reading it um they enjoy the

30:07 book they think it’s easy to to follow and a whole lot more information is there

30:12 but it’s the blog entries are part of the book but i’ve fleshed it out quite a bit and i’ve added a lot more content a

30:18 lot more detail around the experiences uh so they’ve really enjoyed it and i know you will too so

30:25 uh check it out if you’re into horror uh if you’re into the occult uh if you’re into the paranormal

30:31 or mind control um any of the subjects it basically uh straddles all those

30:36 different genres or niches if you will so i think anyone that’s in those

30:42 particular areas is going to find something in the book that they’ll enjoy um and you know where to find me on facebook i always like to talk about

30:48 this stuff and interact so you can definitely find me there um and i really appreciate your time

30:54 today um for those of you that have tuned in and this will be available as a as a link to watch after the fact as

31:01 well anything else that uh louise would like to add louise who

31:06 wrote the forward to the book and shared her experiences with me in graphic detail uh um when i was blacking out when i first

31:13 arrived here she put up with a lot and lover to bits for for dealing with that stuff

31:19 well i just i want to know how you feel about the whole process that you’ve gone through um

31:25 you know because when you started writing the blog you were so adamant that it wouldn’t do anything for you

31:31 i resisted it i resisted it so much it’s oh whatever i’m not gonna write and i have a job to keep or they’ll put me

31:37 away i’m in a small country and i was still you know in the process of becoming a resident i don’t wanna i just

31:42 i got so sick of you getting drunk and crying and growling every night that i was crying and rolling we have to find

31:49 an i’m women are into that if you were a little bit yeah but we have to find an avenue for you to release all your

31:56 frustration and pent up energy and pretty much that’s what you did and how do you feel now being do you feel more

32:03 balanced or absolutely i mean i don’t feel like i have to black out when i lived in rhode

32:08 island if i didn’t get the black out and go crazy every weekend i was depressed i mean if

32:14 we had some sort of family event or we had to go away for the weekend i couldn’t i would never black out in front of anyone aside from my ex it

32:20 would only be like one person i’d select to black out in front of because then i could just say all right she’s crazy it didn’t happen so it was a bit

32:26 manipulative there but i never blacked out in front of anyone except maybe one person uh so

32:33 what’s the question how do you feel now in comparison to them when you were blacking out another

32:39 i mean your blackout was very much like a crutch for you wasn’t it i remember you were addicted to it you had to have

32:45 it on a friday night oh i couldn’t function during the week to go to work and not to be able to to release that

32:50 i don’t black out anymore i’ve had a few issues here and there but i don’t black out anymore to that extent or at all um

32:56 so the writing the sharing the interacting has definitely helped

33:02 you save my life do you still miss it absolutely yeah there are nights where i have a

33:07 couple of glasses of wine here at 80s music and uh i want to go there but i mean i it’s not

33:12 life or death where before it was i had to do it i would just be devastated if i couldn’t black out and get out of my

33:18 body i had to have that and it was a roll of the dice because i you know who knows what was going to

33:23 happen i sealed myself into the house with tape one time when i was alone when my ex was away because i needed to

33:29 just go crazy and i had to get out of my body and i i taped every window that’s in the book every window and door shut

33:37 so that i could um escape myself and it was horrible i woke up naked and bloody i mean it was stuff

33:43 that you just very dramatic i know but it’s true and i needed to uh to get away from that um i

33:50 think i have and i don’t need to black out anymore but yeah it’s definitely a tempting thing for

33:56 sure so what’s up sir um what stops me well i i certainly don’t want to um i just had

34:03 a kid i mean i’m i’ve never yeah well i mean look let’s face it some

34:09 folks have had issue with my you know calling it spam if you’re going to share your story you

34:14 have to get it out there uh there has to be a way to do that and it is a fine line between you know in marketing is it

34:21 ego or you are you pushing this on people i’d like to share the story because it’s part of my healing process

34:26 whenever i interact with a new person that says oh these things have happened to me or these things have happened to someone i

34:32 know and i’ve had no ability to build any context around it it’s wonderful to

34:37 do that you know or if somebody’s just curious about it so yeah the interacting helps but it’s you have to if you write

34:43 a book you put a lot of work into it you have to market it to get it out there um and i’d like to put it in you know in an

34:49 audio book uh get into bookstores i think it’s a unique enough story um i’ve lived in a bubble so long that

34:56 little bits of information about my life would leak to people and they’d say freaking crazy i’d be mean well that was

35:01 just my normal um so i think it’s a unique enough story would where it would have some broad appeal um and why not

35:08 but but yeah marketing sure well anthony says you should write more for sure it’s addicting to read so far which

35:14 is a good thing ah well thank you antoinette um i will be writing more it’s the one

35:20 thing that makes me happy um of course my family makes me happy but we all need something that we do i think

35:26 creatively as human beings um so as far as the writing goes i’m going to continue doing that

35:32 uh the next adventure will definitely be going to australia and to see what this exorcism does i mean is it going to

35:38 make me crazy or no i don’t think so i’m going to bring seth with me seth is coming along i used to send some pretty

35:43 freaky demonic emails to seth and he was one of the few people that could handle them so he he’s

35:49 close friend that’s going to come as a protector and make sure these people don’t mess with my head too much because

35:55 brett i’m sure you’re watching uh brett is the the fellow that i did the radio interview with in the exorcist not that i don’t trust you but uh everyone has to

36:02 protect themselves i’m not quite sure if there is an agenda i suspect there isn’t um but i’ve always been a bit too

36:07 trusting maybe um so let’s see what happens maybe it’ll be a controlled i think it’s it’s just again i think it’s

36:13 about you and what’s inside of you yeah what could be triggering you need someone who’s really close to you to be there to make sure absolutely

36:20 and but once again brett if i didn’t like you i didn’t trust you i wouldn’t even think about it but but i have had other people actually chime in and say

36:26 well you’ve got to be careful you don’t know this guy but we’ll see what happens uh trust the universe and trust the um

36:32 you know trust the path it takes me on yeah so where we’re at at the moment is we’ve

36:37 got um five people in chat i’m connected now yeah okay

36:44 and um i think according to your agenda you’re gonna start reading about the book or yeah we’ve gone over the

36:51 chapters themselves any questions you have folks you want to chime in if you think my story is nonsense or you think

36:56 you know i’m just making this up any kind of uh input i’ve had people um disagree with me and

37:02 some people even attack me um so you still find now so if you have any kind of input that that might be construed as

37:09 um you know maybe not in line with with what i’m i’m saying i have no issue with that at all and i never respond

37:16 aggressively to anything like that it’s just in poor taste and last thing you want to do is get into a

37:21 confrontation online with anyone um but i have had that happen quite a bit um i’m just sharing the story because it’s

37:27 healthier for me and um i’ve come a long way i mean years ago i wouldn’t even think to write

37:33 my dreams down they were so freaky um in mind control books that i had read secretly i’d tear the cover off on the

37:39 train and read them and then i would soak them in buckets of water and tear them to bits because heaven forbid

37:44 someone saw what i was reading what about the woman that have been contacting you with

37:50 regards to like the woman you trigger because at one stage that you were triggering a heap of people

37:56 yeah that well the content is this that’s definitely sexual in nature actually skirted over one of the

38:01 chapters um uh as far as the sexual control um

38:07 but yeah it’s quite sexual in nature um i think sexuality for us um we’re all

38:13 conditioned um that it’s something to be embarrassed about something that can be yucky or just just better left un

38:20 unaddressed um sexuality creates life and uh it’s one of the most potent

38:25 forces in the universe so i shared that stuff because mind control and also your ability to manifest things

38:32 in your life i believe is definitely connected to sexuality um so um i even did some uh sexual

38:38 manipulation with louise to get her to to um agree to have me come over to new zealand and i told her afterwards and

38:44 she was pissed off yeah so i mean this stuff is party to it

38:50 no no she had no idea um but it hasn’t worn off so i would think it hasn’t otherwise

38:56 someone saw us underneath my pajamas last night doing the taste oh my god no

39:04 i thought you said it wasn’t um oh my god

39:09 antoinette what did you see it’s terrible she says she says

39:18 oh my god i think i actually did you see i flashed the camera because i’m

39:24 i just do it for fun because it freaks her out and hopefully he didn’t see me watch the camera

39:29 um yeah yeah so this is um like i said the laughter part i’m much happier now

39:36 and and if any of you think you know i think alright if you’re watching uh you know was he said it was a bit

39:42 disconcerting that my my level of um as far as joking you know with the subject matter if it’s too

39:48 serious and too heavy it will actually magnetize negative energies you can’t have this grave seriousness

39:53 about you it will attract things of a like nature so i try to keep it light and and how can you not laugh at some of

39:59 this stuff i mean it’s it’s really uh it’s out there i know that um but uh

40:04 that’s that’s been my life so um anything else no i think we can move on

40:10 to you reading excerpts from the chapters now there’s no questions in there okay um

40:16 well i probably would like to talk about my mother a bit because the mother issues i i dedicated a whole

40:22 chapter to that because i grew up uh it’s one of the one of the few people i don’t mind exposing um

40:28 being connected to me is my mom who is a psychotic alcoholic i mean if anybody

40:34 if i inherited anything as far as psychological issues alcoholism

40:40 possibly mind control would definitely be my mother uh she just has all of the classic symptoms of someone being mind control

40:48 and even yuri who i call the deep programmer in my book named yuri he uh he alluded

40:53 to after i described my mother and my experiences with her alluded to the fact that um you know she was probably um

41:00 you know my control but but the programming didn’t go incorrectly and it left her crazy in her outer life whereas i i

41:07 think in my outer life when i walk out the door into the world i i behave and i do everything i can to keep my

41:12 personality at bay even though there’s something your father taught you definitely yeah yeah i mean as far as is

41:19 being well behaved and um and presenting yourself to the world in a a credible manner but my mother was just completely

41:25 the opposite and i haven’t been able to contact her and she’s just i liken her to kind of like a

41:31 reptile that just laid eggs and slithered away i mean i don’t hate the woman but um she uh

41:37 she’s nowhere to be found and i know she’s kind of a key to all of this um so

41:43 i talk about my mother the chapter is called my mother the theme and i miss her because i i when i black out um

41:49 i do my there’s a pattern that’s followed and whenever i black out i

41:54 uh start crying and my mother comes up always comes up and then i then i start getting demonic and growling and this

42:01 pattern has been discovered by louise and she’s um you know obviously knows

42:06 that there’s some issues with i don’t know if there was abuse with my mother she did leave me with abusive babysitters

42:12 um and that part of my life is definitely a huge um part a huge bit of amnesia is there i

42:18 mean i remember bits and pieces of things but there are people that remember being three four five years old i remember nothing about that it’s a

42:25 complete uh blackout for me if you will um so i talked about my mother in this

42:31 uh i don’t know what excerpt i didn’t actually plan to read um anything about this but i’ll just

42:38 describe my experience with her um we we lived in dingy apartments together she

42:43 would drink a lot um she would burn incense it was kind of kind of had a very occultic uh quality

42:49 to it she was very angry woman she would drink and her eyes would blaze red

42:54 and she had lots of boyfriends there’s all kinds of sexual things that would happen

42:59 uh around me that i was privy to um you know she would black out and i’d see her naked as a little kid it was just

43:06 obviously not didn’t have a very good effect on my psyche um but my mother some somebody that i would like to find

43:13 so that i can kind of pick her brain and see maybe there’s some sort of a clue uh in there so

43:19 instead of reading excerpts from the book i think it’s just better just to describe those things from you know and

43:24 let you read the the specifics yourself uh but my mother is definitely um a key

43:30 to all of this i think and uh ultimately i like to find her and i don’t hate her i mean i don’t know how i feel about her because uh

43:36 she’s kind of a stranger to me really do we have anything else on the agenda that we wanted to i don’t want to bore

43:42 everyone here did you read an instrument yeah i’m going to read an exception yeah that’s what you do for curly’s

43:48 party okay well i’ll talk about movies because movies have a huge effect on me and they

43:53 still do uh so i’ll read another movie that had a that really messed with my mind was midnight express

44:00 and uh which was released in 1978 so i was six years old at the time

44:05 my mom dropped me off to see that movie by myself she would often use the movie theater as a babysitter um and it’s

44:11 about an american sent to prison for trying to smuggle hashish out of turkey um and believe me my opinion of the land

44:18 you know called turkey is you know i run into a turkish person i mentioned that moving they give me dirty looks i

44:23 think it kind of tarnished uh the world’s view of the country which i’m sure it’s a beautiful place

44:28 with beautiful people um but in the movie there’s extensive torture uh psychosis despair um and i was you know

44:36 six-year-old sitting alone watching that movie uh the soundtrack in particular pushes my crazy button whenever i hear

44:42 the music from that movie i just i start to get dizzy literally i don’t know what happens um

44:48 but i spiral um quite a bit and um quite often when watching that film um i would

44:54 black out afterwards or uh during a blackout or very deep into a blackout i would seek out the movie and

45:01 only louise would know that because i was so deep in the black eye i didn’t know i was playing the music or watching the film is that what happened

45:08 and i’m in that express yeah you would just call into a little ball and start crying like a baby yeah so whether or

45:15 not the time period somehow there’s some memory encoded in the time period i don’t know but but that movie definitely

45:21 um triggered something within me uh so that’s that was my experience with my mother she also what she had a knack for

45:28 was um let’s see she would lock me out of the apartment not that i’m trying to tell the tale of wall and get any sympathy um but she did all sorts of i

45:34 think neglectful and um abusive things whether it was conscious or not uh to really affect me at that age um and then

45:42 eventually i moved back out to boston with my dad and things were much more stable but then again my behavior at that age i

45:48 started cutting myself at seven years old um and and wiping the blood on my ventriloquist

45:55 puppet um so i um and whether or not that has a connection to mind control or the occult i suspect it does

46:03 but um i compared notes with other people and i don’t recall anyone else saying ah yeah that

46:09 age you cut yourself and wiping on puppets i mean so obviously this behavior pattern is indicative of

46:14 something some issue some abuse or you know that’s repressed and maybe my

46:20 psyche does not want to show me these things so anyway um

46:27 instead of reading excerpts i’d rather just kind of touch upon different areas and then elaborate on them um

46:33 so let’s see any any other particular areas but the juicy paragraph hello

46:39 you read a juicy paragraph okay okay

46:44 i didn’t have one chosen so let’s see what do you think would be interesting

46:52 okay the one with your mother

46:57 that’s pretty sexual though i think um let’s see here okay with me just a

47:02 moment folks louise put me on the spot with this excerpt reading which i didn’t uh

47:08 see it’s the part

47:16 upon each chapter and to to elaborate on them it wasn’t about okay so here i found it um after

47:22 eventually falling asleep uh some sort of moaning son woke me up uh this was one night where my mother was drunk the

47:29 tv was still on and i saw my mom on the couch completely naked uh her legs uh open with one leg dangling off the floor

47:36 i looked at her vagina confused and groggy remember i was six years old um and then a movie trailer came on and

47:43 nobody trailer was for the the shining uh so that when it came out so anyway it was just about to come out or it had

47:50 come out and i was watching the scene where the kid was running through that that maze in the snow

47:55 and of course looking at my mother’s private parts at that age and seeing a horror film trailer really had an effect

48:00 on me and it cemented itself in my psyche um so aside from the few visual snippets of

48:06 childhood i do have uh these are among the more scant uh plot memories from

48:11 that time period um so the scary shining trailer is playing in the background it’s 3 15 a.m i do remember the time uh

48:18 and i’m i’m staring at my mom’s vagina i remember envisioning her nailed to a cross and this is i mean

48:24 from the few things i remember why did i remember this i i remember envisioning her nailed to a cross like jesus he’s

48:30 just coming up look at that and i wondered if i should be eating her brain or heart and that thought has

48:36 never left me i mean that’s that’s pretty gruesome pretty macabre pretty indicative of some serious issues

48:42 um what can i say i’d rather share it now than you know i’ve repressed that too long and that’s who i am um but but why

48:49 that image came into my head at that time after seeing you know her naked and the horror film trailer

48:55 i can’t imagine i mean what connection does it have or was it just random i don’t know but uh that that certainly did occur um

49:03 and let’s see here anything else you want to read about mommy yeah i call her mommy i know it’s

49:09 strange oh well i’ve got some other issues that i write about in the book as well but hey

49:16 everybody has what they’re into so um let’s see here

49:22 running from demons of mind control another thing i wanted to share too is that uh with yuri

49:29 after i had gone off the rails and yuri is the deprogrammer um i had um i wanted to meet him so i sent

49:35 some money to uh to him and to enroll in one of his conferences in michigan and

49:41 basically i was excited to meet him maybe i can get to the bottom of this issue with the mind control and um i was

49:47 it was this is right before i left my ex i was devastated because i uh i was

49:52 sent an email back saying your registration has not been accepted i i guess i was so crazy and so out of

49:58 control at the time they didn’t want me at their conference so if you can imagine that sending somebody 500 bucks to to go to their conference and they

50:04 were like no you’re too nuts man you use the same emails that you send us forget it uh so i was crushed that i

50:11 couldn’t go because i wanted to get to the bottom of the issues i thought that might help uh that was part of what precipitated me

50:17 leaving my ex i was just so depressed and um and then after being banned from that conference that’s when i left and

50:23 um so we have a question from antone and she wants to know um if you can

50:29 speak more about the symbolism and movie maybe also going back to fight club oh oh for sure um

50:35 antoinette i’m not an expert on these things i’ve done my studying up on it um but as far as the symbolism goes i mean

50:42 if you look at i can speak more on triggering i think um in particular with the movie fight club um there’s all

50:49 sorts of symbolism as far as having altered personalities when i first saw fight club i didn’t know about

50:56 the whole aha moment um about the movie where the two main characters were actually the same person

51:01 um and then once i saw that off tyler durden and edward norton’s character were actually

51:07 the same person i mean that’s what really uh triggered my whole obsession with it because i wasn’t exposed to the

51:13 idea of multiple personalities before and then i thought i think it was more subconscious i thought

51:20 wow is this what’s going on with me when i black out i mean uh do i have two maybe more people within me uh and this

51:26 was before i had started studying mind control but it just it flipped a switch in me um so with movies um

51:35 depending on what they use movies like

51:45 i even

51:51 i don’t know i have no proof myself but i have a pretty good

55:46 having issues that are internet so we’re going to wrap it up now uh for those of you that have a few more questions

55:51 oh fantastic okay so

55:56 um i think anthony’s asking um questions there she says

56:02 yes i believe it is all triggers as well do you believe multiple people share multiple similar triggers

56:08 um from what i understand from uh from my experience with it um

56:14 triggering is very specific to the individual it’s uh how you were programmed and what triggers were laced

56:20 into which altars um but but i definitely think that the triggers they put into films

56:26 they’re not directed towards specific individuals so i would think that um

56:31 there are general triggers that go out to certain types of mind control people i can’t imagine them spending you know

56:36 time and money um you know it’s uh some other issue going on here

56:42 mommy um but i can’t imagine them spending uh all that money just to trigger one individual so i think there are

56:49 definitely triggers that um they go out to just people with certain programs in them uh depending on the type of program

56:56 let’s say sexual programming if you watch like the movie um sucker punch uh

57:01 with the girls in the uh the institution or the it was it’s been many years that movie left me with

57:07 headaches and depression for weeks afterwards i mean i really was affected by it so there were triggers in that

57:13 film that were i think specific to me but that being said i’m sure there are obviously many other people with mind

57:19 control but i think that the triggers historical the triggers in the films i think what

57:26 happens is yeah

57:31 maybe just leaking as far as the triggers in the films go what i think happens is that

57:37 there’s a main trigger that can affect uh many people and then their own individual triggers are then like a

57:44 domino effect that main trigger can affect maybe thousands of program people and then that trigger will actually

57:50 activate other triggers specific to them and then you watch their behavior start to spiral uh so i i think that um as far

57:57 as the is that the question as far as the triggers go yes i believe it’s all triggers as well

58:03 do you believe multiple people share multiples from their triggers that’s the question yeah absolutely definitely

58:08 multiple people do but then i do think that ricochet effect louise and i’ve analyzed my triggers and my behavior and

58:14 it’s like a slow burn something affects me you know one week and then slowly but surely my behavior starts to get um

58:21 aggressive or depressed or something extreme and then before you know it i i’m i’m freaking out or um you notice

58:28 that the triggers are are definitely it’s not so obvious they can be quite

58:33 subtle fragile yeah you know one yeah there’s like a hidden trigger and

58:39 then there’s multiple triggers after that yeah it’s i mean it’s actually quite fascinating and insidious if you think

58:45 about it if you just separate yourself from the fact that yes it’s negative and it’s evil and it shouldn’t be happening

58:50 but but very clever from whoever created this stuff i just know that i can’t say it’s true i

58:56 can’t prove it but i can say the effective tan on my life if it does indeed exist i don’t know

59:02 um and then she said because i’ve researched and found when people talk of being triggered it always comes back to

59:08 similar triggers in relation to each other rules depend how you were programmed really

59:13 how you were programmed and also i think what sometimes certain programs have more of an effect on you in your life

59:19 some stick and some don’t i think or some uh go dormant and um and depending

59:24 on what you expose yourself to i think on an unconscious level there are people that somehow know what

59:30 they should avoid and then they can resist it enough and then um those triggers aren’t uh you know activated

59:36 whereas other ones i mean they’re just certain movies i just need to watch um and it is a risk but i just know that by

59:43 writing i have not freaked out i haven’t gone off the rails like i did in the past but yeah i mean i still expose myself to

59:50 things that are triggering it’s uh it’s not an it’s not they can’t switch it on and off there’s some people that judge it and think i’m just you know flirting

59:57 with disaster here or or i’m actually part of their agenda and i’m actually doing this to trigger other people i

1:00:03 mean if that’s true i’m not conscious of it so i’m just doing the best i can to be healthy and not be crazy anymore

1:00:12 um somebody some other people are joining those teams like all the time in the morning

1:00:18 do you know i’ll work alright elric’s here yes um we’ve been going for about an hour

1:00:23 okay so i think they thought it was um it’s just about ten past two now here there was very interesting i had gotten

1:00:29 the timing wrong of those things and i was sleeping the things i was woken up for hey elric how are you it’s good good

1:00:35 to uh hear from you glad you could make it and uh yeah the stuff with the time zones uh it’s confusing as hell for me

1:00:42 i’m not a math person once you throw time zones and i get very confused so um

1:00:48 but that we’re actually we’re just going to wrap wrap it up um and it will be um it’s been recorded

1:00:54 i think it was the most perfectly um produced uh event but it was all quite honest and and and sincere uh but alert

1:01:02 if you have any questions uh feel free to chime in um anything that you’re curious about uh

1:01:12 okay uh so i was discussing the book itself for those of you that just joined us uh

1:01:17 discussing the book we had some good questions on triggers and um specific to mind control um and

1:01:25 yeah i’ve done my best as far as answering them with my i always say i have limited expertise with this stuff

1:01:30 i’m just i’m just groping around in the dark really there’s plenty online there’s plenty of research one can do

1:01:35 but but does that make it true does that make make you you know credible i’m not going to be a self-styled expert on this

1:01:42 stuff i’m still learning and it’s it’s often just trial and error i think the most important thing is to

1:01:48 observe yourself and to observe your behaviors really step outside yourself and and

1:01:54 watch how you think in your random thoughts and the things that you’re attracted to or drawn to is there a

1:02:01 pattern something changed where you’re seeking certain things out that you weren’t before this can all be

1:02:06 indicative of a trigger uh process occurring and it definitely reverberates you know

1:02:13 throughout it’s not something that happens you’re triggered and then you’re not anymore it’s definitely a build up at least for me it has been okay

1:02:22 but for those of you that uh that did make it uh alright sorry man um uh i’ve gone on and on for about over an

1:02:29 hour we’ve had some technical issues as well so i just want to say thank you all for uh your patience in dealing with

1:02:35 that there will be a recording of this after i watch it i don’t think it sucks i’ll put it up i don’t know if it’s uh

1:02:41 if it’s worthy of going up or not afterwards but uh once again the book is now uh 12

1:02:47 um in print and um 299 kindle uh if you do read it i would greatly appreciate it

1:02:54 if you could put a review up on the amazon author page just a short review make it honest you don’t have to say

1:03:00 wonderful things about it you can just just be honest about what you thought about the book uh those are the best reviews are the ones that are people can

1:03:06 tell when they’re just all happy wonderful stuff and they know

1:03:13 so it says just a comment love the henna soundtrack in the x exploration um

1:03:18 videos great movie symbolism as well in that movie so she’s uh talking about the montauk videos and how we use the henna

1:03:25 stuff i’ve been putting up uh the hannah movie really had an effect on me um it really did it also left me in kind

1:03:32 of a funk but i’ve watched it several times since then and louise cut all of that video and she put a lot of work

1:03:37 into it i nagged her because i’m 42 and i can’t do that stuff she’s 31 32. she’s

1:03:43 young and knows how to do all these things 21 there you go yeah that would make me kind of a creep though

1:03:50 um so she did all of that that was her a great work out yeah we did collaborate on what music to use but that was huge

1:03:56 mind control movie in my opinion uh the hannah film uh with all of the you know the assassin

1:04:02 uh programming and whatnot uh i really enjoyed that remember the first time you watched it with me you guzzled like

1:04:08 almost three liters of water yeah that was when i first arrived in new zealand and then yeah i mean what i used to do

1:04:14 is just i would take huge amounts of speed pills after i left my ex i stopped exercising for

1:04:19 um maybe 15 years turned into a pot belly old man and then once i left her i had

1:04:25 some time to exercise my lung commute was over and then i went back into my speed addiction and would just take tons

1:04:30 of speed and work out and then go home and guzzle i mean a bottle and a half two bottles

1:04:36 of wine every night of the week obviously not healthy but i was really screwing with my my body and i don’t

1:04:41 know if that was connected to mind control you know slowly slowly destroying myself or not i can’t say

1:04:47 but um just lots of up and down stuff that occurred um find a place of stability now but

1:04:52 you know still a bit and um alright would like to know i’d like to hear more about why yuri

1:05:00 and you fell out if you know if you want to share that so that’s it’s a great question alright

1:05:06 and um many of you that may have read the book or or just have been involved in the mind control subject

1:05:12 long enough i’m sure you know who yuri is all i can say is that he was very supportive um i thought he had an agenda

1:05:18 when we first started communicating we we actually had i mean swapped six seven emails a day i mean

1:05:25 why i mean this guy has all these people following him and and he chose to focus on me but yet didn’t try to sell me

1:05:30 anything so i think that the connection was was definitely genuine definitely sincere and you’re

1:05:36 asking about the falling out and i’m going on about that about this part um but but all i can say about yuri is that

1:05:41 um i was writing for him i had done a deprogramming journal on his website and

1:05:48 right before i left new zealand i was in boston living in my office because i lived in my office twice uh it’s a long

1:05:53 story so um you’re his wife and contacted me yuri and i have i mean

1:05:58 literally the emails between us are all saved i mean we’ve got a lot of a lot of material there all of my crazy emails in

1:06:05 the beginning i mean stuff that right when i first started communicating with him when i read it now i was so unstable

1:06:10 um and um so we decided to collaborate on that about two years later and do a deprogramming journal on his website and

1:06:18 i thought it was fantastic i enjoyed it it was my first step into writing and interacting with folks and kind of

1:06:23 sharing you know my experiences um and then um you know what occurred is that i was in new zealand i was still

1:06:29 writing i was we were posting entries from our emails and then i was elaborating on my current

1:06:35 situation in relation to them and um what happened was uh for whatever reason

1:06:40 they got really busy um you know with their website they’ve got quite a business they travel a lot and i didn’t

1:06:47 have the outlet anymore i didn’t have the outlet to to write because there was nothing going on with with that

1:06:52 particular collaboration so i started the blog and that’s why i started writing for myself because i needed to

1:06:57 write um you know more than once every two months i needed to do this every day just to get through my work day i just

1:07:03 can’t stand working so not working but just doing you know i work in an office it’s just dreadfully boring uh wasn’t

1:07:10 fulfilling me so i needed to write every day i didn’t have that outlet with with yuri in his website so i started the

1:07:16 blog uh and then i started um writing for another individual uh connected to uh to

1:07:23 yuri and his wife and um i think they got upset about that because um

1:07:29 you know they wanted me writing exclusively for them uh so once they they realized that that’s pretty much

1:07:35 well true well the thing is is that you were right you weren’t really writing for them you were sending them entries

1:07:41 and they were posting them or not posting them yeah it just wasn’t happening and then they stopped communicating with

1:07:48 you for about three months and you your blackouts were getting progressively worse getting the stress we were under

1:07:54 at the time yeah and that is when i said why don’t you just write your own blog and if they do come back to you can

1:08:00 continue to write for them yeah and they did come back to you but they wanted you to be exclusive they

1:08:07 didn’t want me to have my own stuff going on which is very strange for me i mean i thought it would be a mutually um

1:08:12 beneficial situation where i could write um post entries with them and and be very reliable with that i’m a reliable

1:08:19 person if i say i’m going to do something i will um so i saw no issue with it i could have both going and i

1:08:24 could have my outlet well you also had quite attraction and the following building up in your blog blog spot area

1:08:29 yeah and that made a lot of you know sense to keep that and you don’t want to lose that

1:08:34 so i mean if you could just stop just stop doing my own thing and just for them so you know i explained it to them

1:08:40 that i would like to continue both um and uh for whatever reason they weren’t happy with that they also knew that i

1:08:47 was writing for another person um connected to them but he had his own business i’d rather not mention him here uh his website is changing now and i

1:08:53 write for him and i think they didn’t like the fact that i was i don’t know what it was you know i

1:08:59 think you also need to touch on like yuri and his comfort conference

1:09:04 confrontational what looks this um unconventional way of doing things

1:09:10 and how you you know he talks a lot about um mind control and programming and even

1:09:15 though he’s played a huge catalyst in your life you really need to touch on how

1:09:21 it’s not really where you’re going do you know well i mean my goal is to be healthier that that’s

1:09:26 what my goal is and yuri played a pivotal part in my life because he was a catalyst for me

1:09:32 um moving out of a bad marriage and really trying to get myself stable it was definitely asymmetrical i mean i

1:09:38 got worse before i got better i would get better then that would get worse again uh and then finding my way to new

1:09:43 zealand was just i mean a life-saving experience i’m i’m going to have more a more conventional life now but um if

1:09:50 whatever reason yuri and i just our paths um he was was not happy with what i was

1:09:56 doing on this end and and the decisions i made and um you know i was still willing to be friends with

1:10:02 him but for whatever reason i think the issue with the writing writing for maybe a competitor i don’t

1:10:07 know something to that degree uh upset them and um as a result we don’t

1:10:12 communicate anymore and since what last october november that we’ve communicated

1:10:17 and you know what it is what is i have no animosity toward them at all i would i don’t have any issue with being

1:10:23 friends with them but they they seem to have taken it the wrong way that i’m i’m you know writing for another individual

1:10:29 along with my own stuff that situation is a much better deal for me and and um you know this person’s not

1:10:36 placing any demands on me to be exclusive to you know his side which you know i’ve got a lot of creative energy

1:10:42 and i’d rather get it out then repress it and go back to where i was before

1:10:47 that answer the question yeah yeah so that that’s the reason that um

1:10:53 yeah i had the falling out with fury but you know i like i like

1:11:00 yeah we agreed to disagree i mean there was no argument or fighting and over the years yuri and i definitely triggered

1:11:05 each other i mean with the emails we had we had a very i think bizarre relationship as far as our interactions

1:11:11 with each other um we we would say freaky things to each other just off hand it wouldn’t be in

1:11:17 along the line of business we just talked talk some crazy stuff and

1:11:22 i think we triggered each other and um you know so at times it wasn’t healthy

1:11:28 you know for for me and probably not for him and that’s i think part of the reason that um yuri’s wife didn’t want me at

1:11:35 their conference i think it really had to do with her because of the effect that i had on yuri and that’s understandable i mean that’s they have a

1:11:41 business they don’t need some crazy guys showing up to their conference and they didn’t know how i was going to react to being around yuri um and maybe she

1:11:48 didn’t know how europe reacts to me you know he um insinuating that we insinuated that we had a connection

1:11:55 possibly at montauk i don’t know but whatever connection we had was

1:12:01 something that was creating these triggers between us and um you know that’s where it stands now and

1:12:07 maybe we’ll be friends again in the future i don’t know um but i have no issue with them at the moment

1:12:13 any other questions there um all right folks well for those of you

1:12:19 that did make it i really appreciate you coming um pick up a copy what’s this creepy about the older

1:12:25 temple the oto oh the oto well this is a tough question to answer because um

1:12:32 a lot of oto folks they read my stuff and the first thing i’m going to say to anybody involved in

1:12:37 the oto and crowley i am not an expert on the oto or magic

1:12:42 i screwed up we’re not sacrificing children here

1:12:47 um i um i’m not an expert on magic or the oto i had a brief experience with both

1:12:54 and what i write about is is my ensuing um you know the effect it had on me um

1:13:00 so first of all the oto folks say oh this guy doesn’t know his stuff he doesn’t know he’s talking about i don’t i’m not an expert on that i know what i

1:13:06 know but i don’t delve into it very much anymore um but the oto folks that moved in when

1:13:11 i was demon conjuring they had lived up the street um they just had a really i’m not saying that that reflects on the oto

1:13:18 but they just had a really weird vibe about them and they kind of moved in and took over it was a boyfriend girlfriend and they

1:13:23 moved in to pick up the the slack with the rent because my roommates freaked and they left and they left me alone in

1:13:28 the three bedroom apartment so they moved in to help the rent but they just brought this astral funk with them um

1:13:34 that just pushed me over the edge i had to get out of there um so i’m not that’s no reflection on the oto or anybody that’s into

1:13:41 um oto related stuff um i interact with folks that are into that and um just as

1:13:47 a you know as a disclaimer i’m not claiming to know a whole lot about magic or or the oto

1:13:53 but but there are some some parallel i think interests that we have um i hope that answers the question it

1:13:59 wasn’t the other that was creepy but i was just not in a place for whatever reason it triggered me to leave and to

1:14:05 go to move in with the other woman that that i was married to okay

1:14:12 all right so i once again appreciate you coming by sorry it wasn’t as uh organized as we had hoped uh next

1:14:19 time we do this we’ll be all the wiser for it next time i know i i harass her to do all the

1:14:25 technical stuff so and i just write and blabber away but once again if you read the book i

1:14:30 really appreciate if you put up a review on the um the amazon page any feedback you have just be honest about it i can

1:14:36 handle it and um it’s not an ego trip sharing the stories has kept me healthier and it’s leading me down other

1:14:42 paths of my life and um you know like i said you know where to find me on facebook and i hope you have

1:14:48 a great rest of your weekend one thing about being in new zealand is we’re a bit ahead and friday is great because

1:14:54 it’s thursday for you guys but on sunday you’re still on saturday and i’m jealous uh so take care and i hope to hear from

1:15:01 you all again soon

BRM 3 – Blood Ritual Monarch Interviewed by Stewart and Janet Swerdlow and Transcript

Interview from 2012 with Blood Ritual Monarch and Stewart and Janet Swerdlow in which Blood Ritual Monarch is still working out how to deprogram and what happened to him.

2012 Apr 15 Odysee Blood Ritual Monarch Interviewed by Stewart and Janet Swerdlow on Wolf Spirit Radio [1c] 51 min 15s

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[2] 2020 April 5 cathyfoxblog Montauk Boys – Blood Ritual Monarch  https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/04/05/montauk-boys-blood-ritual-monarch/

Transcript

I would like to to make things move around the room 42:52

you are listening to infinite realities of wolf spirit radio

0:24 helping you harness the infinite power of your mind

0:35 presented today by Stewart and Janet swerdlow

0:47 you

0:54 you

1:06 it’s a good party trick well well actually I find that fascinating because

1:14 what you’re experiencing may very well be going into an altar that has

1:20 different traits and characteristics physically than your regular self and so

1:26 you’re kind of proving that the DNA can change its range of manifestation simply

1:33 by going into an altar soft I think that’s for interesting shut up now

1:39 anyway to mitigate that stored or at least two to observe it as it occurs is

1:45 there any obviously with the deprogramming for a call well that that was my next thing and that is your

1:52 continuing your deprogramming process yes oh I definitely am at the moment I’m

1:58 doing just the basics very consistently are on merger t-bar balancing chakra

2:04 spinning and ultimate protection and I have settled into a new life so if one time I’m secure in my outside world I’m

2:11 going to delve back into the more intensive protocols with them dragonfly and their frequency or not okay I’m just

2:19 wondering if maybe you need to cycle through some of the altars that you have

2:26 in you now because of this changing and your lifestyle that you’ve made and in your location so that as these things

2:35 come up it might be a good idea as you notice changes in yourself to just take

2:41 a look at that a flush and merge of course and keep careful notes about what

2:46 the manifestations were and what might have triggered them and that was another

2:52 question that i have is are you becoming aware of what actually triggers you i am

2:59 a to an extent i haven’t had a full-on blackout in about five months i’m very proud of that I’ve never been afraid of

3:07 just blacking out on a moment’s notice when I was drinking them all there’s something within me that’s very in

3:13 control of that and I only expose yourself in the right environment and around the right people

3:19 the source of the triggering isn’t always easy to trace but the symptoms are generally a spaced-out kind of a

3:26 disembodied theory along either emotion or no emotion whatsoever and I mean

3:32 they’re completely non communicative or I’m very hyper and quite often I feel

3:38 something kind of take its place behind my eyes and and my eyes gets kind of a

3:44 flaring look to them and I’m told my body language taste changes very distinctly as well almost and I move in

3:51 a robotic fashion you know what I think is interesting and you’re describing things very well very eloquently what

3:59 you’re going through and you’ve obviously spent time thinking and studying about it but I know a lot of people when they first start thinking

4:06 about am I programmed or not a lot of people say I can’t remember my turn would and to me that’s a major red flag

4:13 that if you can’t remember your childhood then there are some kind of issue and in fact we’re just talking in

4:19 the April as attitudes and AB stitute journal the blog that that I run for the violent members and above we’re talking

4:27 there about some people writing me say now happy they were and then you go on to say a variety of other things that

4:33 don’t make them sound so happy and I said well let’s take a look and I think what you’re talking about again with a

4:40 heightened awareness is what many people go through without any awareness at all and where you’re talking about okay i’m

4:47 walking out with no emotion these people are numbing themselves and because

4:52 they’re numb and not hurting but therefore they label that happy which i think what you’re doing is more correct

4:57 you’re saying okay there’s no emotion doesn’t mean i’m happy i just numb that out and now you took at the extra step

5:04 to consciously invoke the amnesia whereas these people are did you know

5:09 what happened basically chil I’m starving and then I’m putting them pointing it out of making them think back to that Oh another thing I wanted

5:18 to mention Janet as far as the triggering is um I would say that the years that were almost foggy for me were

5:25 ages four to eight when I was living with my alcoholic mother and she any mention of

5:32 her anything that she would say to me as a child severely triggers mean she

5:37 always mention of her sent me into a spiral so that’s one other trigger area

5:42 that them she also expose me to several babysitter’s that were sexually abusive so my time with her was although it’s

5:51 difficult to remember the different pieces that I do remember work and that

5:56 and I think to as you continue and get deeper into your deprogramming work what

6:02 we want to do is get you down around that age of four but you have to be strong enough to to see it and again

6:08 that is what you’re doing right now is getting that relationship developed and

6:13 a very strong way self Oversoul god mind as I say you become very strong so that

6:20 you can bend in the wind but you don’t break and so of course you don’t want to go down into these emotions at that age

6:26 until you know that you are going to be strong enough to handle whatever comes out because as you get there and we

6:33 start pulling out more and more things are embedded now you will have the tools to deal with and where’s the

6:39 four-year-old you don’t have the tools and this is what happens to most people and as I said you know you you’re

6:45 extremely intelligent and if you were not intelligent if you were not strong you are not a survivor for the things

6:51 that you have been strange things that maybe you do or interest you or you explore and a lot of times they don’t

6:57 want to acknowledge that within themselves and I think highly intelligent people explore a variety of

7:02 pink and you know what you’re doing why you’re doing it added in the midst of everything you still hold yourself

7:09 together you still said hey I made a contract to come here to this earth plane I’m sticking it out I mean there

7:14 are times you could have exited but instead hey here you are you’re still doing that you know you went through your ex-wife you’re into a better

7:20 relationship you’ve moved I mean you’re still here you’re still going I think that’s admirable for anybody who’s

7:27 program and I think there are a lot of lessons here for people to learn and a very fine example for others to follow

7:33 Oh actually I think you just said you’re a role model that that is delightful and

7:40 given what you know I me Stewart it’s what ironic oh well

7:47 well you know what Rupert you are a good person and I think that you are a good

7:53 role model for other people doing the green spiral staircase occasionally

7:58 faces will pop into my head faces for my past but right now the only result I get

8:04 it I get cold and I completely shut off emotionally i guess i can’t speak and it’s not a decision that has affected my

8:12 relationships at times i just i simply can’t get out of it and the only I’m not over that is just going to sleep on I

8:19 wake up I’m chipper it always goes away you know with a good sleep but right now

8:24 it’s just ice cold bodies and I just can’t reveal that might be that during

8:31 those years maybe your environment was physical cold you know as far as emotions and temperature and do you

8:39 probably went within yourself in order to deal with all of that so that makes sense that you have those reactions to

8:44 that time and as well like you talked about to help shut down the emotions you retreat inside and as the person who

8:52 would be in control of your physical more than what people understand the fact even was steward in the programming

8:57 that he went through you know we kind of he kind of laughs and I kind of ambassador if I laugh or not sometimes

9:03 but I said you know it’s your stubbornness that kept you alive it’s your temperament that kept you alive because you know most people don’t

9:10 survive these kind of things so when you go inside you get into that sense of being cold I really believe that you’re

9:16 pulling yourself in and it could be in preparation for or departing the physical body amongst other things so

9:23 there’s lots of ways that people shield themselves from the trauma and the

9:29 torment that takes place during the programming sessions and the more you can understand why you go through and it

9:37 explained your current temperament as well as what you can need you to get out of it because in order for you to make

9:44 any progress you have to be able to label it so that you can repeat it on a conscious level and I just have

9:50 accidentally fallen here accidentally fallen there either positive or negative what did i do how did I get here how am

9:57 I going to get out of it and so even with the green spiral staircase instead of um you know going down so many rungs

10:04 go down just a little ways you need a pure it’s down on the top and pearance the green spiral staircase and see what

10:10 comes up and when that becomes so you can not black out or not feel cold then

10:16 maybe get on that first run or put one foot on the first run or put partly on the first rung a little tiny bit at a

10:23 time so that you can start to maintain consciousness over what’s happening you

10:29 can get that label so then you can release it and go the next step because my feeling is for you the same as i know

10:36 for stewart and many other people you get on that green style spiral staircase and basically you’re on the road to

10:42 trauma and consciously you don’t want i just start studying down so that makes perfect sense to me as well so i’m going

10:51 to apply that janet and i’m going to you know be diligent about practicing even more than feasible yeah and then but

10:57 then when you do please write about that in the journal there because we would like to know you know how is it does

11:03 this work and what happens to your process that you’re going through and so willing to share is helping many other

11:10 people who are afraid I mean you’ve really had no choice it would just kind of thrown into the pot and like i said is either survive or die and a lot of

11:17 ways that’s Stewart as well so what we want to do is get you to that point where you can look at something without

11:23 falling into the old pattern and by your sharing on that journal it certainly helps other people understand their own

11:30 process oh I know I’m sorry go ahead the

11:36 beauty you go ahead please there was one of those subject I really can’t talk about this with anyone else so this is a

11:42 wonderful opportunity after moving halfway across the world I started to

11:47 get into contact with some old friends in particular the roommates that I had this was back in nineteen ninety-five in

11:55 an apartment I had started to study the afterlife for reasons I can’t go into

12:01 too lengthy but I have this great idea to summon demonic energies and I asked

12:08 this if he could remember anything about that particular requirement as all the remains are pretty much free doubted

12:13 what I was doing in my bedroom and he told me something that I had absolutely no memory of whatsoever i really freaked

12:20 me out or that i kind of retracted and they stopped speaking he said that he came home one night to find me trying to

12:27 contact the spirit of jeffrey dahmer through the evocation mirror and I just

12:32 went cold when he told me that because I like to think I remember things for my 20s but it totally freaked me out and

12:39 then recently while watching a documentary on gamma I was amazed at the

12:45 similarity in his recounting of these blackouts and loss of memory as well as

12:51 his personality switching they were alcohol induced just like mine so I just

12:57 I was just shocked that I’m not that I’m trying to align with this individual but just the blackouts and we’re so similar

13:04 but I thought perhaps you mentioned he was an alien entity and human body but

13:09 would there be any programming parallels with with that type of behavior oh absolutely and I’ve seen that many times

13:17 before and just as an aside because of what you’ve mentioned you know this

13:22 planet has been used as a prison by many other higher civilizations and one of

13:29 the punishments is for the criminal to be incarnated into a human body and suffer a human life until such time uses

13:38 either killed or poor poor passes on and so when the government to see such an

13:43 individual and they do know when these individuals are present they model a lot

13:50 of programming after the mind patterns of those beings in order for them to

13:56 create assassins you know that kind of thing vigilante stalker is what have you

14:03 so yes absolutely there is those kind of programs that are then imposed on

14:09 certain people with the right kind of genetics ah thank you that helps so much

14:14 i was just so curious about it that i couldn’t put two and two together but there was such a similarity there and

14:21 no interestingly that you mentioned it because last Halloween there was a group

14:27 in portland oregon who tried to invoke Jeffrey Dahmer in a ceremony not sure if

14:35 they were successful or not but I didn’t warn them not to do that to unleash his energy into unsuspecting public no heads

14:44 in my freezer everyone I assure you just

14:49 hands and feet no heads but anyway so I

14:56 wanted to ask you also how and you kind of touched on this but how are you well

15:03 now able to have relationships at work and privately as opposed to back then

15:10 before you knew about programming in c programming well my relationships that

15:15 they have drastically improves into my first consultation with you in 2009 I’m

15:20 doing really well I’m satisfied with a wonderful relationship and actually have

15:25 a couple of friends I had even have any friends before I just said I want a relationship with my ex and quite

15:33 honestly that was it I had no other contact with anyone and whenever I did socialize which I dreaded socializing

15:40 but I do it well I just put on a social persona and people wonder why i don’t

15:47 want to interact socially because they observe how I’m so good at it but it’s painful for me to interact socially but

15:54 right now I mean after the slow gramming and you know thankfully being in contact

15:59 with both of you I can actually have a couple of real friends that I can have a true connection with and not just talk

16:05 about this the boring you know general subjects and I’m just so much happy about this is huge different we know the

16:12 other thing too I think I’m program people oftentimes you know because of

16:17 the thought that goes through they really have not had boundaries with other people and so sometimes being in

16:25 close proximity to others or the thought of it brings up torture type memories on some level and so media

16:31 like you said yes you can do it but there’s a cringing and I think it would hear do programming tools and just

16:36 hyperspace over soaps techniques in general where it teaches you how to establish your boundaries that gives you

16:43 a sense of control and a way of keeping people at length unless you choose to

16:49 allow them in versus the opposite when that other people had their wants and

16:54 Will’s and wave imposed upon you so it gives you again a sense of control over

16:59 a life that you may feel you had no control over you know I also feel my

17:05 self-worth is increased I think I have a lot of I had a lot of low self-esteem but was more on a subconscious level I

17:12 had kind of a confident persona but I wasn’t very confident underneath and now that I feel better about myself on many

17:19 levels I think I’m magnetizing more nurturing relationships and that’s something I really needed that I wasn’t

17:24 even aware of you know I was going to say to it since you kind of opened this little entryway that of course we’re

17:31 going through the relationship journal in my founder and Benjamin of course also anonymous names but with a couple

17:40 things that you put in there which I just posted today I don’t everybody’s had a chance to read them but I thought they were very very good and I actually

17:47 again I admire that you were able to put this together and from and I’m pretty go

17:53 reading the frequencies from what I see behind it I really do believe you’re practicing what you’re preaching and so

17:58 I hope people will have a chance to read what you wrote Thunder Rupert in the relationship journal on the member side

18:04 about founder and Benjamin it was very very good and heartfelt and excellent information so to me that tells me right

18:11 there that you are making progress and you are making something work you can’t see it even if you’re just trying

18:18 because that’s the first step but you can’t see it unless so you’re you doing it you’re lavina it’s amazing I have

18:24 some wonderful support here Oh Jana I really appreciate that on the people inspiring for for short

18:32 someone’s actually writing in on a chat room and they want to know about stock

18:37 or programming and it says it’s different layers of use one that is more

18:43 of a detailed observer recorder out of more extreme examples is this is relevant for Rupert as well so let me

18:50 ask you that question roofer do you feel that you have stalker programming

18:55 where’s your more detailed and observing and recording information well Stuart

19:01 did nice talk to you for quite a while what I like that from one person to

19:09 another you know yeah well when he first started talking I think we actually you

19:15 know I didn’t notice at the beginning but after rereading those old emails that we were actually triggering each

19:20 other and then I had this goal to go to your april two thousand phone conference

19:26 and then I just went off the deep end and I was sending you the most backed out emails I mean just bizarre stuff

19:33 like you and I are little hobbits living in a hut and just I would wake up from black house and go home check the sent

19:39 box or what did i send them today and then the only thing you really could do is we kind of receded because i was just

19:46 in such a unstable place there was no way i could go to that conference and i

19:53 just wasn’t in a place for it and then in between before we started you know contacting each other again i was

20:00 sending you emails all the time in black Ellison you know you wisely just stayed away and let me kind of settle in and

20:06 get balance but I was stalking you at that time as well well I knew that you

20:12 had gone into another altar and I knew that whatever I would say or email my tribute to a different way and since I

20:19 couldn’t personally be there to guide you it was better that I say nothing and that you come out of it and I did send

20:25 you energy for brown merging and violet anyway I think I might have had your

20:31 permission long before that to do so yeah it’s over so level regardless why

20:38 would you do over so well that’s what’s important but but that’s a good example of how even during a deep

20:45 programming process it’s so easy to get back down again or to go you know be

20:51 triggered and activated into areas that you can even know you had so yeah I mean

20:57 I mean that’s actually a good thing that you we talk about that because it shows people you just can’t take things for

21:03 granted and deprogramming and those who want more details be sure you read the 13 cubed book because it is full of

21:11 information it’s a challenging book to get through i have to say but it is full

21:16 of information and one that you may you know that you can refer to as all are all of our books really they’re written

21:22 for you change your going to get different information out of the book depending upon what you’re ready for but

21:27 13 cuba’s excellent place as is their DVD series of mind control programming but it do it’s a little bit more intense

21:35 and then we also have a hyperspace and oldest or advanced hyperspace Oversoul

21:41 and d programming technique so on the website there is a lot of health care for people wondering you know what’s

21:48 going on with me because again like with Rupert you know you’re usually

21:53 specifically program people are highly intelligent so because you don’t see this in society you’re thinking okay I

22:00 don’t fit in what’s wrong with me and like you said Rupert low self-esteem low self-worth issues a lot of time a lot of

22:06 torment oftentimes impersonal and the whole life usually these people have

22:11 difficult life but you’re intelligent enough just to know something’s not right but what is that and how do I

22:17 label it and you can’t deal with something to tell you get that label

22:25 yeah another question I have here is some is the journal that you’ve gone

22:32 online is that the journal helping you or how do you feel about doing the

22:38 journal oh that’s an excellent question i was concerned about it because um as i

22:44 was preparing the entries and going back over the old emails i was actually dipping back into the emotional place i

22:52 was in when we were communicating there was almost a desire to there always has

22:58 been desire to to kind of dive into the trigger pool so to speak just with the

23:05 strap moving visual feelings that were rather enjoyable for a period of time until the blackout was filed but the

23:12 journal itself has really helped me organize where I was then where I am now

23:17 and then also I’m go into some details that I hadn’t thought of before so it’s

23:23 been a wonderful you know way for me a cathartic experience really and just a

23:29 way to heal even more so I mean I can’t thank you both enough you know what I

23:34 think too i want to just elaborate a little bit because a lot of times you know at the beginning when people start

23:40 doing hyperspace Oversoul deprogramming work whatever they get some real immediate results and they can take

23:45 changes but the deeper you go in and the heavier the harder stuff is sometimes

23:51 you don’t see is much change because it’s a little bit by a little bit by a little bit like people who put weight on

23:57 you know half an ounce for I have found out by a bounce how did I get you 15 20 pounds on myself but when we look at it

24:04 that way and then the how far you come you know if people have regardless of

24:10 what they’re doing if they keep that journal I think a good way to actually see your progress is like exactly what

24:17 you did go back where was I six months ago a year ago two years ago and so

24:22 forth you may be surprised how far are you coming in if i hearing you correctly that’s kind of what you’re saying

24:28 through this process itself and that you’re really you’re taking a good look at where was I then and where am I now

24:34 oh it’s all positive Janet and the more I go back and look at it but if I just

24:40 do it in increments you know I notice that it’s affecting my relationships I mean there are so many synchronicities

24:46 that are occurring with right before I look at a particular tract of the old emails something will occur my life now

24:53 and then I’ll look at the emails and then sure enough there are like three or four things that match up so it’s almost

24:58 as if when they can mention in the journal something is shadowing me but in

25:03 a good way Oh watching me through this process and letting me know that it’s kind of a few steps ahead and then

25:09 protecting me sure and I talked about the other evolutionary spiral which means you know

25:15 that instead of going on that some people get that way are they going to circle but when we are really working i think it is more of an upward spiral so

25:22 you do kind of you know you’re you’re using a little bit different verbiage Jenna maybe a little bit different for

25:28 you but as a general rule then we kind of go up and we can look down and see where we were we do cross those same

25:34 type of places again but in a little bit different way and what because we have

25:39 already crossed it in one leg helps us understand where we are now if we’re open to that so it’s no longer a loop or

25:47 a hamster wheel it is that upward evolutionary spiral it keeps you moving along now as far as some you know

25:57 further d programming techniques based on what you both know about me is there anything specific that that I should be

26:03 doing at this point anything that would get some results i’m having issues with with memory blockage and I know that

26:10 Oversoul is not going to allow memories to come through and less unprepared to deal with them and I think I am aware of

26:17 that on one level but on another level at perhaps in an unhealthy way I wanted to see whatever was in my past and

26:23 whatever happens happens and I know that that kind of a reference folks I think that I think that green spiral staircase

26:31 like I talked practices and you said you would try where you’re going to step back and not go so far in you know and

26:37 that’s what everybody wants to know it’s that you know you want to see that boy is a part of ourselves yes we want to

26:42 see but you don’t want to be overwhelmed either I also think that you should start consider using the bear frequency

26:51 because that will help you go into the mind and see what’s there hidden in the cave of your mind and then in

26:57 conjunction with all that use white winged lion wiping dragon frequencies to

27:03 support and empower you so that nothing would trigger you or activate you again

27:08 in what you may see or learn and I had

27:14 another question too I don’t know if it’s the right time to address this but

27:19 during our initial correspondent Stuart mentioned a connection to the black

27:24 madonna magdalen line and since janet is on that Magdalen line I was always curious about

27:31 this specific connection there and you had both mentioned that you know were connected in some way and I’m just

27:38 curious if you could elaborate on that or if there’s anything that would be appropriate to mention you know at this

27:43 time well that’s a that’s a good word appropriate I i can tell you i’ll

27:51 explain to the audience that and of course this is not in standard history

27:58 this is in the Maya dvds of true world history where the Magdalene Mary

28:04 Magdalene answer her to her children came they left the Middle East and they

28:10 went and wandered around Mediterranean till they wound up in the South of France and the daughter Sarah Oh became

28:17 known as the Black Madonna not because of her skin color but because of her a

28:24 propensity to work in the dark rather I called Theia Colts and let’s say that

28:31 the occult Sciences yeah and so she had

28:38 her own lineage and I feel genetically you are part of that and she told it to

28:47 the astral when the demonic entities and all of that and from the back that came

28:53 the lineage in Europe of the witches and warlocks and that kind of thing and it’s

28:59 a very long story I’m not sure Rupert if I answered your question but yes that’s

29:05 the connected that’s the lineage from your I really appreciate that Stewart

29:13 and it does help because I’ve just been noticing synchronicities with Aleister

29:18 Crowley of lon top the Golden Dawn and just literal magic in general the

29:25 synchronicities keep you know I keep running into them the more that I go over the old emails and the more they

29:31 think about adding new entries things just keep kind of creeping up on me and tapping me on the shoulder and pointing

29:38 me after so I thought I would I thought I would address that and the other thing that you have to realize is that people such

29:46 as yourself after those of you who read my article on this site which I’ll just reference as the unholy trinity that is

29:53 in the public side and it talks about say people like yourselves people who

29:58 are specifically programmed you can go much higher than the loss a global

30:05 handlers for those on the bottom half of eternity so they will program people such as yourself and myself to go into

30:13 these areas that are higher than they are because I can’t they can’t maintain

30:20 the energy frequency without spontaneously combusted combusting will

30:25 say and also we are trying to go through these lower hidden areas for the same

30:33 reason and we get that information and they use us for it so there’s a lot of

30:39 stuff that they utilize you for and then the idea is physically can you hold up

30:46 mentally can you hold up and emotionally can you hold up and only the very most powerful people can survive and that

30:54 again is why a lot of this surface to the forefront and makes you want to do that that’s actually the programming so

31:00 what you want to do is you want to get beyond the programming and go to the Oversoul level then you’re over so we’ll

31:06 explain to you a lot of this stuff and that is also one of the reasons why the propensity for drinking and what alcohol

31:13 and for drugs because it will open you to these realms where you have good program to go and that is the same for

31:20 many people and then of course why they’re trying to bring the drugs back again and make up legal blah blah

31:25 because they want to use people and people don’t people think all you know this is great and I’m going to go on a

31:31 nice easy side trip what’s going to happen it’s going to happen it’s kinda

31:36 like what you’re finding out and a lot of program and people that you read about on the news these are going to be people out of control they’re not in

31:42 every control their own mind they’re going to be used their lives will be destroyed in ways that are unimaginable

31:48 because it takes extremely strong people to do these kind of things now that the

31:54 ancient indigenous people did these kind of things but again was a purpose and

31:59 with training not just because they got ahold of some drug or some drink and they could go somewhere and I think you

32:05 understand that and so there’s the intrigue because you’ve been there you’ve done that and you’re trying to

32:10 recollect what you already know without it destroying you and this time you want

32:16 to do with you being in control rather than someone else being in control of you so there’s a lot of stuff going on a

32:22 Stewart says it’s a very deep and detailed story but you can do this via the Oversoul level versus the drinking

32:28 drugging and it’s going to give you a whole different appreciation and a whole different perspective when you get that

32:33 far well I’ll pay you the addictive behaviors are definitely there I am

32:41 aware of them and of course it’s a lot easier to do it through that route than the Oversoul level can so I’m definitely

32:47 going to I still enjoy my red wine but but otherwise have been very healthy and

32:52 that is true I’m glad you brought that point because again I did address the psychic energy versus Oversoul level

32:59 psychic energy you’re going to get their part you better get their farther and faster the Oversoul level you will

33:04 eventually get there but you will be stable and you will be able to handle it so that’s the difference Rupert um our

33:17 listener is asking a corruption of you he wants to know how you think you were

33:22 used as a monarch and how those involvements continue to impose stumbling blocks to healing if at all

33:28 and are you still used officially or have you been put out to pasture ah put

33:35 out to pasture that that sounds like a nice thing in regards to programming that’s for sure I’ll be quite honest I

33:43 can only go with what I’m obsessed with what what’s coming to my mind on a regular basis and things that I think

33:50 about the most as far as locations though it’s either Montauk or it’s

33:56 Antarctica those have been through obsessions even before I mean when I was

34:02 10 11 years old the word Montauk was just a tune in my brain when I I could make a connection then so it’s

34:09 Montauk or Antarctica and then also there’s um I think sexual park liberties

34:16 that are a bit bizarre and I can only relate that to programming experience

34:23 nothing illegal or unhealthy but justjust is archived things as we

34:28 elaborated on in the journal so my only only way to really say I’m still connected to the programming is that I

34:36 still have those mind patterns and I do have some actual dreams here and there that the involve group sex and of course

34:44 being drawn to things you know demonic thing that hey I feel like I’m healthier

34:49 mentally but my mind will still be drawn into those types of occult mind patterns

34:55 and thoughts so that that’s really the only white I have in the tunnel as far as to answering that question that over

35:02 it maybe you can add words to it well I know I think that you did a good job on that and yes I think being put out to

35:09 pasture own programming is a good thing except it doesn’t end it it just says we’re just putting you out here till

35:15 maybe we’re ready to use you yet at some point and you want to be you know on

35:20 your own which is what you’re doing and what you’re working towards and the many

35:26 monarchs when they reach show whether male or female when they reach a certain age they may be used only energetically

35:34 a subsequent to that even until the time that passed on or those that also have

35:41 Tinkerbell programming and addition to the monarch a program which keeps them young looking for a very long period of

35:48 time which rupert i do believe you have that Oh programming and so you can be

35:55 used physically for an extended period of time as well the next question I have

36:01 for you Rupert is you mentioned the Montauk Project and we’ve talked about

36:08 that privately for a bit of time you did

36:14 you actually go there and visit there I below for a visit

36:20 September and it was quite an incredible experience it was it was surreal for me

36:27 because the build up to going had been so many years I had it’s a difficult

36:32 place to get to and I had previously lived in the Northeast and you would think looking at the map it’s not a

36:37 problem but logistically quite a few steps to take to actually get to montauk

36:42 point so I did go the silence there was was definite I mean it was there is such

36:50 a heavy astral vibe to the location I you know videotaped it and it’s just

36:56 it’s steeped in this astral silence and I I still think I’m there because when I

37:04 have moved I would still have during sexual activity flashes of being in the

37:11 Montauk power that would just come out of nowhere so I did I initiate a

37:16 connection or reinitiate a connection to the place by going I don’t know but I still feel strongly connected to that

37:22 location even to this day where you are located now oh absolutely and I thought

37:29 for sure that I’m kind of closer to Antarctica and I thought my you know my focus would be on that location but

37:35 Montauk is is actually just as much of a daily obsession daily I mean literally

37:40 several times a day I’m actually wearing my my lucky Montauk t-shirt right now and I just hop in the ground in the

37:47 claws and that was the first one there so I don’t know Winston away or what but

37:53 it’s always been real that’s very interesting you know that kind of like my obsession with Antarctica you know

38:00 and that kind of thing so some things that we both need to look at I wanted to

38:07 also add um do you ever think you would share your story or have you two ever

38:13 share your story publicly with others that people just ask you about it and conversation or bring something after

38:19 you ever share about your issues with with select individuals and that

38:26 decision is almost made on a subconscious level I’m I fancy myself pretty good at reading how much certain

38:33 people can take my story and what a lot it was a bit of a lead in just based on their eye

38:38 contact and body language I can tell if they’d be open to listening to certain things and I have actually shared a

38:45 little bit of it with certain friends that I know can handle it and quite often I think that they might have

38:51 specific programming as well and they’re kind of magnetized to me because on some level that you want to begin exploring

38:58 that and so my view relationships on what their Oversoul is directing them to

39:03 do versus what the conscious mind want them to do so are most definitely and

39:08 very likely that the ones that you do share with like that personality it’s

39:14 because they themselves have their own issues about it and that’s why you’re resonating with each other to speak

39:19 about it as long as it’s done in a healthy way and I mean given all the

39:25 strange things I’ve been through I have managed to be able to function in the world to go to work keep my mouth shut I

39:32 sometimes have issues with them you know speaking about things I shouldn’t in the social setting just to kind of for shock

39:39 value because i’m bored but but in a proper work environment i haven’t had any issues because I just somehow I’m

39:46 fortunate enough to know to keep my mouth shut and they behave in a certain manner so that I can remain employed and

39:52 still earn a paycheck without going to the nuthouse so I’m thankful for Oversoul for keep me give me function

39:58 well oh but you know that sells a very good sign that you are able to do that

40:04 because you know in in our work we come across people who cannot keep their

40:09 mouths shut I shot him and they tell everybody everything and then they’re labeled as lunatics and then they can’t

40:16 keep a job or relationship and they have a big difficulty so is there a good that you’ve at least had some grounding and

40:23 balance in there and also as well and that you again that you can share because that’s one of the things that

40:29 get on the membership side of the site you know I talked to this about people all the time I call it isolation

40:35 programming that as long as they can keep us apart we can’t help each other but people like you who are willing to

40:41 take a risk and you’re showing very intimate personal details for people so that they

40:47 can understand that an even though they post on our site basically anonymously anyway there’s so many that are

40:54 concerned about talking about certain things and we don’t talk about it you

40:59 know we can’t help each other and even like you’re talking about your friend so ask these questions and you suspect

41:05 probably on some level we’ve got the same thing going on it is really a challenge because all their lives people

41:11 have been shut down you’re not supposed to talk about this you’re not supposed to talk about that and then when you do get into an appropriate venue but people

41:19 who are not going to judge you and criticize you then it is still challenging to open up so I think that

41:25 yeah we really every one of us has to work on that isolation programming that’s the only way we can pull our

41:30 information and move forward as a group mind and I think the key to that Janet

41:36 to be able to continue to share without being labeled it is discernment if your

41:41 discerning just you have to know who to speak to about what and when and

41:47 sometimes you might you might not get it right you’ll get a strange look from someone but if you just asked Oversoul

41:53 to help me you know impulse me at the right time to behave in a certain way so

41:59 that i can continue in the physical world that to have a productive outside life as well as a min and solutely have

42:08 you noticed if you’re psychic or intuitive abilities have increased since your deprogramming it’s a great question

42:16 Stewart I would like to think that they have increased but it’s almost like

42:22 being very close to a television set if you’re right in front of it you see the pixels you can’t see the picture and as

42:27 you step away a picture will come into view other people have told me that I’ve made comments that that seem to be you

42:33 know I have a psychic component to them but I can’t see it myself and it’s very

42:39 difficult for me to make that determination you know I would like to to make things move around the room and

42:45 I’m always into the hole you know slam on dynamite approach which is not always the healthiest thing but very difficult

42:52 for me see whether or not those abilities have increased okay very good actually how is your

43:01 physical health my physical health has improved I actually before I had moved I

43:09 had for years and years taking that it’s called ephedrine hydrochloride for

43:15 working out it’s basically a precursor to amphetamines it’s legal in the United

43:20 States and I have taken this I actually started taking right before I said conjuring demons actually and just so

43:28 the listeners are aware i summon these beings her little but if you use the

43:35 analogy of going on a shark cage dive being in the cage protect you like the

43:40 Magic Circle would and I just wanted to observe those energies from a fake place just to be in the presence of something

43:47 that would give me an adrenaline rush but anyway going back to the health issue i had taken these um no these and

43:55 feta mean based drugs for quite a while and i had some bad liver readings and

44:02 also had too much too much wine drinking as well so since moving my health is definitely improved when I feel a whole

44:09 lot better these are you doing a liver cleanse I’m actually take milk thistle

44:15 on a daily basis that’s my new best friend I had no idea that milk thistle

44:21 could to feel the liver and I mean I’m doing a big plans actually before I take

44:26 health exam coming up in the next few months now with milk thistle just remember after 2-3 weeks it can itself

44:33 become toxic so you want to go on and off of that like maybe two weeks on two weeks off they also don’t stand that

44:41 continuously maybe your dog yeah okay a

44:46 fire a heavier dose of vitamin C is good for the liver as is organic lemon juice

44:52 and lime juice to help clean the liver out and greens but you know the grain juicing I had no idea about these in my

45:00 approach with everything has always been take more so I I’ll take six and i’ll

45:06 just keep everything was just handfuls of pills in the bath though it’s good to notify

45:11 that’s a good thing you brought it up we would have won he went to do the journal

45:16 after a while a little adjusting you know might as well do 10 times more

45:22 that’s always been there the mentality unfortunately that says that’s how they think in Texas I think you know well

45:31 actually what Denali we have just a few minutes left to what messages do you

45:36 have for other male monarchs well I thought about this quite a bit basically

45:44 to remember that you’re not a victim from an oversold perspective you’ve chosen the experience of being

45:49 programmed and one of the things that Jan had said to me almost three years

45:54 ago was enjoy the process you know so basically make this work for you and not

46:00 against you and that’s completely your choice that type of an attitude is going

46:05 to help you take your power back you really need a healthy sense of humor and a good friend once told me that feeling

46:12 don’t like laughter so it said if this is them off and they leave in a hot so

46:17 keep your moods light and and if you do notice anyone in your environment that

46:23 has handle or tendon please do yourself a favor and don’t judge them because they’re not evil people there’s no need

46:30 to polarize it they’re not consciously out to get you or destroy your life it took me a long time to come to that

46:36 understanding and there is a good way to keep handlers in check if they are family members and you really can’t get

46:42 rid of them completely there is a way to decide step those behaviors and you can

46:48 actually learn quite a bit about yourself by observing the handlers in your environment and practicing emotional and verbal impulse control

46:55 when they’re up to their irritated trick well that’s that’s very good point there

47:01 um also I was going to say it’s from male monarchs I think many of these guys

47:09 have almost an embarrassment for being part of that that makes them feel less

47:16 powerful less masculine what have you especially knowing that they’ve been used a certain

47:21 kinds of ritual and so it’s a good thing that you and I’m where that you

47:27 mentioned that there are victims or that whatever reason and there’s psyche

47:33 they’ve allowed this to happen and the whole point of becoming aware of it and doing the programming is to get your

47:40 power back entity who and what you really are and to reintegrate your personality to the way it’s supposed to

47:46 be I think that you’re doing a pretty good job with that well without their

47:53 both of you are Stuart and Janet I would be have no idea where idea might not be

47:58 in my body anymore so I can’t thank you both enough really I mean it’s just the past three years have been such a

48:04 concentrated life journey for me the first 34 35 years of my life 30 years of

48:11 my life you know just kind of a boring March and then all of a sudden I I meant the both of you and nothing’s have

48:17 really concentrated and amplified by put in a very positive way from Thank You

48:24 Rupert and you know you’re doing a tremendous job with that journal because you like Janet mentioned earlier and

48:32 really are becoming a role model for so many people out there who say well you

48:38 know if he can do it then I can do it and there’s nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed and you just have to

48:44 especially these days you know we’re living in the activation of end time programming so everything that we can

48:51 imagine is being that set up all the switches are being flipped and you are a

48:57 good example of how you can be grounded and balanced and move forward make

49:02 tremendous changes in your life despite everything going on around you and go in

49:08 a positive direction even while the rest of the world isn’t so a lot of kudos to

49:13 you a Rupert for what you’re doing and I’m so happy that you are becoming an

49:18 example for all the readers out there well it’s a great pleasure in that big

49:24 hugs to you both in that you know as I said I could not be happy right now and healthy right now without the both of

49:30 you well we intended it should only get better for you and you know a lot of times and this is kind

49:36 of my against thing I guess I’ve kind of seen it from myself it’s like you’re thrown in the middle of the jungle without any tools and you’re supposed to

49:42 find your way through it and I think okay I’m out there cutting my path and then whoever can I can follow that path

49:49 is going to be there behind me and I think in a way it’s the same for you you know you’re in the middle of that jungle

49:54 and by cutting through though that path you’re allowing other people to see hey there is a way out of here and if we

50:01 didn’t put ourselves in the line of fire so to speak we couldn’t help others in the same way so it’s challenging as it

50:07 can be it is enjoying the process and we thank you so much for your sharing with

50:14 us and we look forward to communicating with you on the deprogramming journal in the membership side of expansion Scott

50:19 is much success to you Rupert and thank you for being part of our show today and

50:25 thank everybody for listening it was really an eye opener and we’re so appreciative of all of you so until next

50:31 time this is Stuart a swirl of voice for infinite realities and expansions calm

50:37 bye see you next time so long now thank you

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h to yet another episode here on the casanova show i’m your host jesse perez casanova

0:06 today’s going to be a bit of an interesting talk um sorry we’ve been so late we’ve had some

0:13 incredible technical difficulties the person i’m interviewing today

0:18 unfortunately has had a tough time getting onto the stream

0:24 so the person the individual that set up the stream is a man by the name of steve he’s been

0:31 doing some incredible work for earth united in the background networking us with uh some remarkable individuals so

0:39 steve why don’t you go ahead and let us know what it is we’re going to be talking

0:44 about today and who it is we’re going to be talking to yeah yeah for sure sure so july july 1st

0:52 i went down to ottawa you see ottawa man an amazing man by the

1:00 name of norman traversy and he is uh he’s got such an incredible

1:06 story so he’s an ex-firefighter and he uncovered a lot of stuff that’s

1:12 going on and as you know uh canada’s going through a pandemic right now

1:18 and he’s just got a huge heart he needed to get some information out

1:23 into the open so i went down there with a bunch of friends to see this man speak and i had no idea

1:31 you know honestly what was going to happen and we just so happened to go to the

1:37 right location and i just sarah just tell her story and give the most

1:45 amazing talk and i was maybe i don’t know like six feet away from her

1:50 and it’s just it was so passionate to hear her talk and

1:57 all i i think i started crying a little bit inside because uh

2:03 i think of myself as an empath and the the passion and integrity

2:10 character and the strength of this woman is just so beyond credible and we’ve

2:15 spent many many long nights talking on the phone and i don’t want to take too much more

2:22 time but i want to hand it over to her her because i want you to hear her story right from

2:30 her mouth and i just i just she’s a blessing and her story needs to

2:36 be told throughout the world and so this is why i reached out to you

2:42 and your channel i got sent it from a friend and it’s just it’s really changed my

2:49 life honestly dude so thank you no problem brother no problem at all so okay thank you very much i really

2:57 do appreciate you going ahead and uh connecting us so it’s just sarah

3:02 josora how are you doing are you keeping well today i am good i had a little bit of uh

3:09 nerves at the beginning of the morning had a little bit of struggle so steve helped get me through that and thank you steve

3:15 for such an introduction i’m trying not to cry i told you i don’t want to cry just be yourself i tend to get a little

3:22 emotional but um i met steve on on july 1st again the crowd was very large that day

3:29 and canada day we decided to uh not really protest but approach the u.s embassy

3:36 to send affidavits to the trump administration on behalf of many atrocities of criminal

3:42 behavior on behalf of our government to the u.s embassy so that was all faxed

3:48 in by norman’s traverses group i was also included in some of those affidavits

3:53 sent to the u.s administration in regards to human trafficking was what i sent information on um

4:01 the day of july 1st i decided for the first time in my life to say my truth out loud in front of

4:07 people now i don’t leave my room i don’t leave my apartment i have severe ptsd and conditions where i kind

4:15 of isolate and seclude myself indoors and i’ve done this through my marriage i’ve done this through

4:21 my childhood my children also have part of those issues as well my older child really struggles to do

4:28 anything other than be in front of the computer and i do the total opposite the computer itself just scares me um

4:35 being exploited as a child and an adult and try to sing that in a crowd in front of hundreds of

4:41 people including men uh was very daunting for me and i was just trying to be myself and be honest

4:49 there’s been so much abuse in my life that i figured at some point i deserved to

4:54 heal and unfortunately going through uh health care in canada it’s also a

5:01 struggle we have something here called ohip and ohip gives us certain coverage and

5:06 uh what we don’t realize as canadian citizens is most of that coverage only really includes psychiatric and

5:13 mental health help which i am completely set against for my own spiritual beliefs

5:19 and my own experience so everyone is due to their own experience and unfortunately i had a very negative

5:25 experience with psychiatry so i’ve i’ve tried to go get help i’ve moved around in ontario i

5:32 think in the last five years for four to five times i’ve now settled in ottawa and

5:38 in ottawa i thought this is the nation’s capital right i’m due to find help here there

5:44 must be the top of the line help and i went through about 20 different organizations

5:50 was let go by even uh crisis centers rape centers nobody knew how to help me

5:56 and i’m like what’s going on um so i decided that i would if i couldn’t find the help then i would

6:03 create the help because nobody can understand what these women or or people are going through than myself

6:09 and i feel like it’s it’s an obligation to the individual where if you know something more than

6:15 anyone else can can not figure out for themselves why would you keep that a secret and and the whole part of human

6:22 trafficking is the shame that they put on the individual or making you feel mentally ill or that you need a a drug

6:28 because something has happened to you well why don’t you drug the abuser and and leave the healing to me um a lot

6:35 of the people that i met in uh my experience in both as a child and adult were very exclusive people like elite

6:42 people and uh the tiff festival was a landmark for how these abusers would come into

6:49 town and normally ritualistically so many times a year so meeting so many musicians

6:55 actors royal family members from all around the world elite people in political positions just

7:01 as a child i grew up kind of like in a in a fantasy world where everything was really

7:07 almost not real everything on the television then felt real because the people that i was meeting um

7:13 in these abusive situations were people then that i would later see on the tv and they would try to misconstrue that

7:20 in mental health as some kind of disorder because you’re trying to admit to really high profile people in your abuse

7:28 so last year i had an uncomfortable experience uh with a nation’s police department

7:34 because i refused to take the advice under a medical walk-in doctor i said i have

7:41 my appointment on friday with a psychiatrist even though i don’t believe with it and

7:46 they’re going to help me get on disability and get some help but i refused what that doctor felt was

7:51 necessary and they called the police on me i then went then with the police to the

7:58 hospital i was let go in a few hours with some of my advocates that uh represent human rights in the

8:04 city and so we left and i’m like what is the deal they’re like they want to make money off of you they know that you’re a big money maker

8:11 through the system of ohip and i started learning how much money

8:16 the system or the canadian health care system makes off of people i was flabbergasted i’m like okay i used

8:23 to write poetry this is how i dealt with my my pain as a child i met so many

8:28 musicians i one of my cousins as well his father was

8:34 my child filmmaker we’ll call it and to his son was a

8:41 musician and a juno-nominated artist which is something very big in in canada kind of like your

8:48 american music awards or in the uk i’m not exactly sure um but because he made music i’m

8:54 thinking okay maybe i’m gonna release my pain it was almost like something

9:00 to be almost in a sense of an anger release when i started doing music

9:06 but i found that this was a great reward in trying to find a way to heal

9:14 beyond just the pain and the trauma music and dance gives almost every culture and ability to

9:20 communicate with the body and the energy and it does a lot to heal the person so when i had that experience with police

9:27 last year i wrote a song called doesn’t bother me and uh the lyrics

9:32 really go according to how in the 80s we were taught you know lyrics were very uh subliminal

9:38 like messages were kind of hidden in the music right now you have all kinds of artists that are really pressing a pedophilia

9:45 type of mentality uh twerking naked people it’s just

9:50 beyond controllable at this point and i’m like i can’t stand what my kids listen to

9:56 i try to listen to things without getting triggered and it’s next to impossible so music has been the best healing

10:03 process just writing lyrics actually finding really awesome beats um i worked for the military for about

10:10 two years as a civilian and i worked in the gym the one thing that i noticed that soldiers really

10:16 would work out or exercise too was music so i kind of compacted what i learned over all these years trying to

10:23 come forward and uh talking about the people involved i think steve was just

10:28 a lot of people in the crowd kind of just mouth dropped when i when i said uh what i went through so i really love

10:35 uh to see if you have any questions about uh what we’re trying to work on even steve and myself

10:41 so um so i think the audience is probably just trying to get a bit more

10:47 context on you to understand um exactly what it went

10:53 you went through is there any chance you could just give us a little bit more context just to let us know

10:58 number one how old you are were and uh without going into too much detail

11:03 because one of the things we did discuss is you know there’s a fine line between sensationalism

11:09 and education but before we get to the education part and understand

11:15 more about you know this healing process which you had gone through

11:21 can is there any more context you are willing to share with the audience so just to let the audience

11:28 be aware that this is a continuous healing process for me this is not an overnight uh awakening this

11:35 is something that uh was happening over a 40-year period i’m 45 right now the abuse started in 1978

11:43 when i was uh brought by a family member overseas to a very elite

11:50 underground human trafficking system that is worldwide and this worldwide human trafficking

11:56 cult again this is a cult of people is worldwide and this happens

12:01 especially in canada in the united states we have over 40 000 children missing at this very

12:07 moment which exceeds uh you know covered numbers by by tripling them and what we can do is

12:15 start to understand that human trafficking and cult abuse are entwined together and

12:21 this is where people don’t understand that this is a system of belief like we only start human trafficking people because we have a ritualistic

12:27 need to do so i started uh coming out about my abuse about 10 years ago

12:33 the moment that i came out though i realized that i was stuck in the exact same cult

12:39 that was still selling me so uh part of these cult members may be let’s

12:44 say we allege they could be freemasons and let’s say that i was married to a

12:49 freemason so there was no possible way for me to get out and speak about my abuse without it

12:56 being re-silenced so as of 2009 i tried to start coming

13:01 out about my abuse i would be immediately silenced arrested

13:06 brought to mental health tried to be forced on medication i knew my basic human rights and i would

13:11 keep fighting it i self-educated myself as a survivor of this type of trafficking it literally

13:18 happened a few blocks from my house for about 15 to 20 years

13:23 and so my family was involved my community was involved uh the people that were supposed to

13:28 trust in our society were involved in covering it up and being involved so you can imagine my horror trying to

13:35 get divorced you know 20 years after the abuse meeting one of the judges that used to be

13:41 part of my abuse or any of these members and you go through this constant mental

13:47 health breakdown because you feel like nobody believes you and i’m here to let people understand

13:52 that it doesn’t matter i’m trying to set up even a website and some kind of a forum for people to

13:58 to talk about it because the worst part about being trafficked or being ritualistically abused or abused

14:04 in any manner especially as a child is no one believing you and not knowing who to trust

14:09 to tell this information to so everyone that i was supposed to trust was involved and i

14:15 mean almost every family member my neighbors my community i was then trapped into a marriage with

14:22 someone that was part of my child abuse and it continues this is how it becomes ritual

14:28 and this is how it becomes cult uh motivated uh because the people that pretty much

14:34 owned me um were type of a certain culture and background and this is very common worldwide we

14:40 just don’t want to believe it it’s real when it is right next door to us you know a pedophile or an abuser

14:47 does not have a sign across his forehead and says this is the the demon that i am or this is the

14:53 abuse you’re going to look forward to we need to understand

14:58 that there is no list that we can follow to say and

15:04 dictate well this is what we need to look for even with an fbi or any kind of investigated uh situation in

15:12 any country it’s not like they have maybe certain symbols or codes to go by but you can’t really determine who these people are

15:19 you determine them by their behavior this is where you start to understand when people are really motivated to work

15:25 with children when people are really motivated to work with certain vulnerable sectors of people

15:31 especially in society either police or judges or anything that gives control

15:36 over another human being this is where i start bringing like little books of

15:42 ritualistic abuse for people to understand ritualism is what runs the planet and

15:47 this is what i want to try and teach people of what i’ve learned through 40 years of experiencing it

15:52 40 years of experiencing it if not more and so i’ve gone through even today you know it

15:58 was very hard to get on this call today because i had about four hours of calls returned to me

16:04 of disappointments of doctors that either don’t know how to help me don’t know who to forward me to no

16:10 funding for this assistance for my kind of care so i’m like okay i gotta make my own

16:15 money somehow on disability i can’t keep a job because i don’t sleep i have serious sleep issues

16:23 and at this point all i can try and do is try to help people understand you’re not alone

16:29 i’ve called these 1-800 trafficking numbers i’ve called these hotlines for mental health and

16:34 crisis numbers for the last 10 years with no help and so i’m like

16:40 i don’t know how another person can deal with this i’ve had some really good people that have helped me through the years on

16:48 and off by helping me understand that my spiritual essence is what is

16:53 different than my body so what has happened to my body is not what’s happened to my spirit if

16:59 for me to be this resilient and obviously these cult members have seen that

17:04 they have come after me in every form possible uh i lost my home uh my family was torn

17:11 apart i went from living in a two million dollar house to you know everything being stripped from me almost

17:16 the shirt off my back because that was the punishment because this is about cult abuse

17:22 and when we start realizing that ritualism you go into a courtroom he’s wearing a black robe you have to

17:28 bow you have to do certain things you don’t even realize everything it means of the television

17:34 is giving us information social media it’s always giving us some form of

17:39 information that is given to us we need to learn how to do our own homework

17:45 how to put in the effort to care about not only our physical well-being but our mental

17:50 well-being our spiritual well-being being is all combined and i went on this process

17:56 uh yeah it started about 2008-2007 when i started eating organic and i

18:02 started being only seeing naturopaths it started the whole awakening process

18:07 because a lot of my abuse included hypnotherapy psychological and psychiatric abuse it

18:15 included a lot of drugs so i would always forget um the attacks and how do you go through

18:21 life where as a kid you have a glass of juice and then remember being attacked

18:26 20 years later how do you have a glass of water when people would spike your water with drugs

18:31 you know so every basic function of what we do as a human being to live our daily lives has been

18:37 affected where i have to be triggered every single second of every moment of my day so doctors can’t

18:44 you know conceive in their basic education that they have of the human mind

18:49 uh to think that i could survive without having some kind of disorder so i’m open to more questions if you

18:56 want to to know about it that’s my heart really goes out to you

19:01 do you have a paypal account possibly that maybe you could set up after this

19:08 call and i could put a link in the description so that if anyone feels like making a

19:13 financial contribution towards you then they can go ahead and do that uh steve could you help her set up that

19:20 brother yeah yeah no problem i can uh definitely help walk her

19:26 through that for sure originally tried to do last year actually and it failed miserably because i’m not see when it comes to being exploited

19:34 especially over film and anything to deal with the computer just even turning this on you could see how long

19:39 it took to get this call going so i tried to start something before

19:45 coveted hit where i wanted to start a human trafficking expose around the world to

19:50 travel to every country where i was sold in and and look at the beauty and the the the culture of each country

19:58 and uh i tried to start something on a gofundme account uh but it was labeled human trafficking

20:04 under it probably is still there for all i know uh but i don’t know how to operate these things and this is why i really need to

20:09 find people that uh i can trust like steve um

20:15 we’re gonna help you we’re gonna help you don’t you worry about that we’re going to help you you have a voice

20:21 you have a message and that’s what we’re going to get into with some of the questions so after this call steve’s going to set you

20:27 up a paypal donation link i’ll show you how to do that and then we’ll go ahead we’ll put this

20:33 in the description um guys if you’re watching this now and you’d like to make a contribution

20:39 please come back to this video just to check out after the stream to see the donation

20:46 link so we can give some support and any other supports whether it’s making a website for this

20:52 organization and stuff which we’re going to get into now we will look at helping you um i don’t know if you know much about

20:58 me my name is jesse perez casanova i started an organization called earth united with the simple intention of making the world a better place

21:04 and this is what i believe to be part of making this world a better place is having some of these difficult conversations

21:12 but to try to transmute them and to lead them into light because when i first seen an interview with you

21:18 um i was very inspired by what it is that you had to say to be

21:23 quite frankly honest with you and uh yeah it’s it’s truly incredible so let’s just get into some of these questions

21:29 here um so i see you’ve taken this as an opportunity to grow and find strength can you elaborate

21:37 on how it is that you’ve done that you are speaking about a music video of yours what is the significance of

21:44 that exactly um and i’ll pull the music video up on the screen just now

21:50 but uh can you speak a little bit more about what you as you you’re still looking for help

21:58 on an emotional level to get some healing and unfortunately you haven’t really been getting help

22:03 so i think as well if we can get anyone here that is in any position of counseling or

22:09 help then we would also ask you to reach out to us

22:15 um but i i it does seem as though you’ve come a long way and you’ve been through a lot but it

22:22 definitely seems to me in the previous stuff i’ve watched of you that you have acquired a lot of strength

22:28 along this process so can you elaborate a bit more on that oh my gosh

22:34 my daughter just brought me a smoothie this is tim hortons this is very popular in canada i’ve never heard of it i’ve

22:40 heard of some waters actually i’ve just uh i’ve never made smoothies every corner

22:46 i don’t eat donuts but when when my daughter knows that i’m struggling with things she gives me little treats so

22:51 it’s so nice that’s so beautiful so uh at this point in time uh doesn’t

22:57 bother me was written first off uh about a year ago and after my experience with the police

23:04 i was like i could either take this very negatively and i could let it destroy me and let it

23:09 destroy my ability to believe that there isn’t help out there or i could turn this into

23:15 a message back to the authorities that let me down and help fix it we can’t really defund

23:22 police or we can’t really you know tell a bunch of people well you’re horrible so that’s it you’re fired

23:29 life doesn’t work that way so we need to give people the opportunity to understand what the problem is and how to fix it so

23:35 it doesn’t bother me i went through uh some cold messages like coded

23:40 messages about my abuse but at the same time who i was abused by without naming them directly

23:47 you know i allege in in code and you really need to look at the lyrics it also labels certain uh police

23:53 departments you know and i do this in code i don’t want to name who at this time but that’s what the lyrics

24:00 are for i’ve given my card you know i’ve tried to make the opportunity to i believe here in canada what our

24:07 highest level of police is our cmp so this is the royal canadian mountain police these were

24:12 police that were assigned on behalf of the crown uh in england right so this is uh pretty much like our

24:19 fbi in a way i gave them all my information i told them that they’re more than welcome to

24:24 contact me they see that i’ve managed to quit drugs and alcohol

24:29 cold turkey by myself i realized that last year that the only way that i was going to be able to lead as

24:36 an example is also still go through the grueling process of trying to find

24:41 a way to cope without using certain substances and i was uh

24:47 unfortunately you know trying you know you go through the music industry and it’s so cool everybody’s gotta smoke

24:52 marijuana everyone has to drink everyone has to party and so how do you go through that industry to try and heal

24:59 and at the same time get off the drugs well i did that anyways um so it doesn’t bother me i really try

25:06 to focus on repeating a sentence that goes into you know practicality is never a reality

25:12 doesn’t bother me no negativity so this was this was part of your healing process

25:17 correct so um i don’t want to use

25:22 um well it was part of your process of grabbing of of grabbing your power you know

25:29 um of of taking taking back your power um and it’s so beautiful that

25:37 you you have gone down a spiritual path i’m gonna go ahead and i’m gonna play this music video for everyone real quick

25:43 this can give you a little chance to just take a breather um i’m just gonna go ahead and play this

25:54 now uh sorry about that give me a sec for

26:01 some reason it’s not uh play that’s weird oh god that’s why give

26:07 me one second guys i’m very sorry about that uh okay cool there we go now we’re

26:22 cooking

26:31 never a reality doesn’t bother me no negativity doesn’t bother me no

26:37 negativity or hold the space over me now can’t you see practicality

26:42 never a reality doesn’t bother me no

26:48 [Applause] negativity

26:57 [Music]

27:08 [Applause] [Music]

27:14 [Applause] bad medicare doesn’t bother me big

27:22 pharma double penetrated me oh and yes politics doesn’t bother me i never even ever vote don’t you ever

27:29 see no democracy no negativity won’t

27:34 [Applause]

27:46 no negativity [Music]

27:56 [Music]

28:12 can’t you see no children living laughing like you always doesn’t bother me no negativity to hold

28:17 the space poor starving dying doesn’t bother me no negativity will hold the space can’t you see

28:24 u n doesn’t bother me no negativity will double penetrate the space

28:31 [Music] penetrated me doesn’t bother me with no

28:38 negativity will hold the space you see practicality know it’s never

28:44 never a reality doesn’t bother me no negativity all the space that

28:51 state human slavery and human rights

29:10 okay uh yeah that’s a cool song so

29:18 you did did you make the music video

29:24 right sorry give me one second you just uh ah there we go you can speak now sorry

29:30 so you uh did you make the music video so i didn’t make the music video i just

29:36 gave uh exact detail of exactly what i wanted in it what pictures what ideas

29:41 um so my poor videographer let me tell you because i’m pretty difficult to work with i’m very

29:48 i it has to be almost perfect right so even in the end of the song

29:53 because my one of my children is also homosexual i wanted to make sure that

29:58 the last set of lyrics were in the rainbow colors and representation of my

30:04 my child so the video was done by someone who’s working on my music

30:10 video as well so he did the lyric video for me because i wanted it out on july 1st because

30:15 july 1st i wanted to change out of my own history and trauma of what that day represented

30:21 because on july 1st in 1980 i was five years old and attacked in a in a gang of people

30:28 um and i wanted to change that trauma because every canada day you hear the fireworks go off every canada day you

30:35 see people gather and party and i would close the drapes and try to shut myself off from the world

30:40 like many people that deal with trauma and so i thought that’s it today i’m i don’t care if it’s even a lyric video

30:46 i’m going to release my song it’s on spotify and itunes right now streaming the music video is coming out uh i would

30:53 hope within the next month it’s been an extensive project we’re making very extreme costumes uh to relay my story

31:01 especially the spiritual aspect of what my spiritual essence is

31:06 in the message i try to deliver to humanity you’ll notice as well that the songs will always be three minutes and

31:12 33 seconds because everything is gone according to the numerology message of the angel and

31:18 who wishes to speak and give you a message of positive uh energy uh the videos will most likely

31:25 be four minutes and 44 seconds like i’m very neurotic when it comes to a lot of the decision process of how i

31:32 want the music to be delivered um so the video itself had a lot of different pictures in it

31:39 and i was very specific with him what i wanted it to represent um because a lot of the people that i

31:45 met in my abuse were from physicists and scientists to royalty to police you name it and this

31:53 is a very long process so i try to put in all those little hints in the videos and when you start seeing

32:00 the videos that have me in it you’re gonna see a lot more messaging um so you’ll you’ll get more of an idea of

32:06 where the abuse took place or what i’m trying to relay in the message but the the lyric video itself it really

32:13 showed statistics and that was really important to me for canadians and americans to understand

32:19 how many missing children there are especially in canada in the united states that we have like 17 and a half million

32:26 people that die of heart disease every year and we don’t lock down our countries to make people eat healthy

32:31 um so right now i thought it was uh impeccable to to work with this gentleman who was

32:37 able to put all the statistics according to each sentence of where i wanted to be saying something

32:43 in the video i also used um my ex-partner had

32:50 was looking at seven years in prison and i was forced to drop those charges and unfortunately the abuse that i

32:57 suffered uh was uh on a a certain um claim in court

33:02 in that court document i put in the video for example i i scratched out everything that i

33:07 didn’t want any names mentioned but there you understand that i’ve survived not only domestic violence and i’ve survived cult abuse or

33:14 human trafficking i’m still trying to relay a message of hope to people to make them understand that

33:21 there is a creator that there is any belief of what you want to believe in a god or a creator that there is

33:26 something that allows you to spiritually find your strength and if it’s music it could be dance it

33:33 could be art it could be a youtube station where you love to use your voice and your

33:40 intellect to converse with people to try and make your life a happier place because

33:46 you feel like your life has purpose and so what the music does for me and it does for a lot of people is it gives

33:52 people purpose it gives them the ability to attach themselves to a story

33:57 in some way because that’s what music is it is like our first method of storytelling and it gives us a chance to communicate

34:04 with each other even if we don’t speak the same language you can hear a song in italian or arabic

34:10 or a completely different language and you’ll have this sensation or feeling that’s the energy

34:16 that you get through the storytelling of the music and right now what i’m trying to do with the song especially with the lyrics and at least

34:22 with the lyric video is you know i’m going to put out something first without exploiting myself because this

34:29 isn’t about me this is about the message and the message in the music is about trying to

34:34 change the genre of what we listen to in music to put the positive energy and message back into

34:42 the lyrics you know i’m talking about police abuse in there you don’t see me trying to start a riot you don’t see me trying to start

34:49 banging on police doors and saying i deserve justice this is my justice being able to have a

34:55 voice and say not only what happened to be to me but to overcome it in this method is one of the best

35:01 rewards i could ask for by by trying to find my own voice it was not simple jesse it was something

35:07 that i struggled with i would have to have like five six joints before i record the song um and you know i was a very big

35:15 marijuana user and now when i’m recording the songs it’s it’s a process it’s something that i

35:21 have to do a little more to practice that to feel comfortable now being without any uh inhibitors you

35:28 know like sometimes people have alcohol and drugs because they make it seem to themselves that it makes them

35:34 feel who they really are when it’s actually locking down your chakras messes with your pineal gland

35:40 so this brings me to my next set of questions because you know um i want to speak about all

35:48 the lights and the positivity and the love and i think that an important thing is being able to

35:53 focus on all of these things i’m a firm believer that the words we use

35:59 and the energies we tune into are really determining what it is we’re experiencing um on a

36:07 regular basis so i set up a you know so you know my heart

36:12 goes out to you i’m exceptionally empathetic towards you i want to do what i can to help you but

36:20 i think in order to help right now let’s focus on the love and the beauty of all of this

36:26 right not particularly your past but you know i think part of um

36:32 part of moving to a new phase in your life is letting go of your old story so that you can go forward and create a new

36:38 one but sometimes you need to revisit your old story in order to properly let it go in order to allow you to you know

36:46 move forward properly into the future because sometimes when we hold on to the past it really doesn’t allow us to actually

36:53 proceed forward into the future and now i of course haven’t been what you’ve been through

36:58 but these are at least some of the tools that i’m aware of that are useful when it comes to dealing with trauma and allowing

37:05 yourself to come into contact with your true nature which is a lovely beautiful happy

37:11 confidence individual that can owe it to yourself to go forth and enjoy the life you’ve been

37:18 given as much as possible now you’re speaking about purpose right

37:23 now what do you feel as though your purpose uh is right now at this moment in time

37:31 i believe my purpose at this moment in time is to set up an organization some

37:38 some type of center that i would hope in each province at least across canada to

37:43 start to give not only cult abuse survivors but human trafficking survivors an

37:50 opportunity to have a space where they feel safe where they can get the help where they can trust that they can say whatever

37:55 they have to say and and get some not only physical help or mental well-being help but spiritual

38:02 help like i i was really looking into how the native culture has their lodges and

38:09 they have their sweat lodges and they have their ability to use uh certain practices

38:15 to enlighten the spiritual essence right and to give you that self-confidence back

38:20 and i think you know having a a studio or a place where these people can gather and it’s not free but i would like to

38:27 start raising money through the non-profit starting and that way these people can all come there they can just do art or they can

38:34 do learn a new dance uh you know like i’m really excited i i’ve never played an instrument i’m gonna start learning how to play the

38:40 organ it to me that’s exciting i don’t really care what people think about it but it’s

38:46 something i’ve wanted to do for a really long time and so there should be a space where

38:51 we can gather and and be ourselves without any kind of limitations you know uh there’s an ability for people to

38:59 gather it’s always a positive thing you know that’s so amazing and i want to i want to help you

39:04 to do that in whatever way i can um i think it is so important to

39:09 you know my message uh has been that it’s up to us to take accountability and responsibility

39:15 for our fellow brothers and sisters and you know part of that accountability and responsibility is to

39:22 shine the light that can help people you know proceed forward towards the lights

39:29 um you know and uh i you know the fact that you obviously

39:35 you’ve been through stuff that’s put you in a position where you’re more empathetic towards the people out there that truly require

39:42 the help because you’ve been in positions where you’re unable to to get the help it is

39:47 that you seeked don’t want or even want the help like i understand the struggle where

39:54 you you get to a point where you don’t want the help you get into let’s say a drug issue and you you refuse the help

40:00 so i i understand how difficult a person can be i i am that difficult person even to ask

40:07 for the help to get on this call i think steve’s had to you know mention this to me quite a few times and try to reassure

40:13 me that this is a positive direction and uh it’s really hard for people to ask for help we need to make it

40:19 comfortable for them to feel safe about it and right now we live in a scary

40:25 situation where the help really isn’t there unless it’s virtual so it’s also a challenge for people that

40:32 like myself have the challenge with doing things virtual that is very triggering

40:37 that help needs to be there like i’m trying to line up right now uh therapy as quickly as i can before i

40:43 do my music video because just the lights or the the group of people around me while i do the filming i’m very on

40:50 edge to do that and i do this because i feel i have this purpose that i have this obligation

40:55 to let people understand how to survive this type of abuse is pushing through you know like the the

41:02 typical concept of what we’re taught about what to do is stay silent take a pill forget it

41:07 not talk about it and this is where when we make it a normal conversation

41:13 uh which is unfortunate it’s not something we want to have as a normal conversation about human trafficking

41:18 but it is that common and this is what we fail to recognize and i believe we’re all stars in the

41:24 universe this is what i put in the song we’re all stars in the universe if we’re all one family

41:29 and we’re all stars in the universe then we have to think of every single person like it would be our brother or sister a

41:36 family member and this is the compassion that i constantly give to even total strangers

41:41 because i could see someone on the street and i’ll ask them

41:46 a question instead of asking them why they’re there on the street

41:52 i’m sorry to cut you off i get so excited

41:58 no that’s that’s amazing sorry steve do you mind just pressing the mutes on your actually yeah

42:05 sorry i just uh okay okay okay well that’s really good to

42:11 hear that’s awesome let’s see what else i got over here um so it’s

42:17 obviously it seems as though you are quite spiritual can you share us uh more uh of your beliefs and your

42:24 outlook of life uh and your life here on earth

42:30 in means of spirituality i was raised roman catholic as a child so i always had a very strong spiritual

42:37 belief part of my abuse though did involve some religious cult abuse as well but i

42:45 use that still to constantly find faith like i would uh go to church uh

42:50 five hours almost on a sunday you know praying to god to save me from these people

42:56 um even in the human trafficking ring i’d be holding my little bible and rosary it was just something that um i always

43:03 try to have faith that there was something in a higher power that was there to believe and protect me

43:11 once i got older i very much shined away a complete opposite you know i got into

43:17 a very dark period in my teenage years but as a mother i noticed you know then

43:23 you you start bringing your kids to church and then you start reestablishing you know in this concept

43:28 of faith again i still started to get lost i actually had i think about three or four different

43:35 religious members try to approach me when i had children because they could see that i had a very

43:41 um thirst for spiritual knowledge and i went through so many only through

43:46 christianity where you have been seeking uh this sort of spiritual

43:51 knowledge no i’ve looked through a lot of different types i i have a copy

43:57 of the quran um i have a scientology books i have books as well on natural health

44:05 uh jehovah’s witnesses i believe i studied with them for a short period of time but i tried to

44:12 gear away from anything that was organized religion and at that point just wanted to try and

44:18 basically find out why i remembered past lives why i was dealing with the aftermath of those past

44:25 lives as well into this lifetime because i didn’t want to feel crazy in any way you know some people believe it

44:31 some people don’t but i started understanding that there was a specific reason why i was in this

44:36 body and i do believe that it encases a spirit so i do believe in spirituality i love

44:43 stones you know i that’s right we’re not holding back in this conversation and i think it’s so

44:49 important to to always come back to this because you know we we we’re seeing a lot of

44:57 news within regards to uh human trafficking and this is something that

45:03 is becoming widespread common knowledge um and people are getting angry which which

45:08 is good because you know the truth will at first piss you off but eventually it will set you free

45:14 but in my head what it is that i’m i’m trying to do is to lead the conversation back to

45:19 spirituality because you know as we said focusing on trauma

45:25 you know especially when it’s uh you know it’s a post traumatic stress is not necessarily helpful doesn’t

45:31 really help add value to your life you know i do believe that sometimes we

45:36 do need to visit the past in order to to let it go to to forgive

45:42 it to bless it not for the the perpetrators but for ourselves

45:48 uh so that we can let go of that weight we’re carrying i can imagine how you feel continually being on edge

45:57 um and you know i would just personally love to see you

46:02 to eventually let let that go as hard as that might be i have no idea i’ve not been through what you’ve been through

46:09 but i do understand that there definitely is the ability to to create a new story

46:14 um sorry for cutting you off there um so okay like yeah so one thing that i

46:20 did a couple years ago like i used to work with children being a hula hoop teacher

46:25 so i was a very big hippie where i loved working with children to make them happy and giggle you know

46:31 like there was something about using a hula hoop as a uh exercise device in a way it’s one of our oldest methods

46:37 of exercising and people didn’t understand that any means of human trafficking this is the oldest profession in humanity

46:46 so it’s nothing new actually we just refuse to acknowledge it so when we start acknowledging the

46:51 importance of our children this is where we kind of come into this complex situation where

46:57 we feel it’s such a sad or horrible thing to talk about and so that’s why when i when i started

47:02 working with children i realized that i was being very retriggered but i don’t regret it for one second having that experience

47:08 for being able to see children uh this was in a military town and the problem with that is that these

47:14 kids that took my class were kind of like the outcasts they weren’t the kids that could do the

47:20 the hockey or the ballerina or the gymnastics you know they the parents would like i really want my

47:25 kids to do something i’m like i gotcha i gotcha right um and they were just

47:30 fantastic because i would teach them a couple tricks it was all about music and expression we you know put a little dance together

47:37 and boys and girls the boys loved it more than the girls did it was amazing and uh i noticed that i

47:43 was able to really identify especially children that had a certain

47:49 trauma in their own lives i was able to see that i could recognize that as a survivor so even one mother came up

47:55 to me afterwards you know uh i never knew that you went through this stuff and my kid went through and i

48:01 said i know she goes you that’s why you took care of her so much i said yes but the problem with that being is when

48:07 we understand that we can recognize this in children then we need to understand that there’s

48:12 the dark part that can recognize that so more of us that need to come forward

48:17 and try to use some form of expression to help protect our future which is our children

48:23 you know artists uh artists have the biggest ability to change the way we have our energy flowing on

48:29 the planet right now music art um any kind of form of expression

48:35 gives the spirit and the knowledge of the the human body to express itself and so if we give an

48:41 opportunity for people to find a really clean and safe way to express that

48:47 um i just feel like we’re going really downhill with the way hollywood and the media kind of makes

48:53 people want to try and over exploit themselves in order to get attention you’ll notice that i try not to exploit

49:00 myself that everything in means of what i try to do is word of mouth or i try to

49:05 get people one-on-one with me so they realize i’m real i’m really to the point i don’t know how to even put on makeup

49:11 it was a struggle to get rid of this whole thing um because i’m i’m very raw and and uh when you’re raw

49:19 some people don’t know how to handle that um but i want to give everyone the opportunity to like have let’s say

49:25 you know would be a dream to start like a youtube channel where i travel around the world and

49:32 experience every single culture on the planet with their form of music and dance and and

49:37 show that to the world between two to 200 countries or more you know because every culture

49:43 has their set belief and culture of art and so if we use that as a form of

49:48 communicating that’s like on a level where before we could speak a common language

49:54 of english what did we have you know we had music as a form of communication i think we have a really big opportunity

50:01 here to make changes um people need to come forward but yes limit what kind of trauma i’m explaining because

50:07 people will be so eager to exploit it in a negative manner um because what i’m

50:12 trying to do is like my gosh what do i what do i do to i write poetry when i get really stressed

50:19 out or i read a book or i tape up a hula hoop because i find it so relaxing uh to see the colors to see a

50:25 creation that i’m making some people it’s a painting or an artwork and who is like three thousand years old

50:32 we don’t even get that look at your olympic emblems to begin with well um i i’m noticing that music is quite a

50:40 big theme in your life and uh and you’re right music really does have the power to direct energy

50:46 and um you know it’s very interesting because i speculated how to

50:51 tackle this conversation because i i really didn’t want to sensationalize this

50:56 um i really didn’t want to you know i mean that’s what’s happening right now it’s just being utterly sensationalized

51:03 and um you know people are sharing all sorts of horrible content out there that are actually showing kids that have been abused and

51:10 whatever and it’s like at what point is this acceptable so my whole thing was that

51:15 you know i’m becoming i’m very conscious of how we present this energetically i want to and

51:22 you’re going back to music you know it’s so beautiful what you’ve just said i completely agree with that absolutely because you’re speaking about

51:28 directing energy and that’s something that i really wanted to bear in mind when actually confronting um this

51:35 conversational topic with you so um i mean that really is beautiful i love that and i agree with that and

51:41 however i can help you i’ll make a plan to do that um i really i really want to

51:46 be committed towards helping you and helping all of these children because from what i understand there are a lot of rescues happening right now and

51:54 and i really care about those kids and i want to be able to to to help people like you be there to

51:59 to help them and that leads me to my next question what message can you give to people

52:04 going through a really tough time right now

52:12 the the best message i could give them is that hope is a word they really need to clear to

52:18 really need to understand the meaning of the word hope because there’s no such thing as

52:23 ever giving up hope it’s a decision it’s actually a decision you need to make and when you make that decision

52:31 that that point in your life where i believe in hope i believe in change so i would i would

52:38 really recommend them to just pick up a dictionary and clear the word hope it sounds ridiculous but it gives them

52:46 an opportunity that when you you start to refocus your mind off of all the

52:52 tragedy or every part of the trauma that is putting you down to just have even the smallest little

52:57 dictionary with you to go over a word because most of our inability to combat trauma

53:04 it deals with our basic uh lack of understanding or confusion so our confusion of why we are in that

53:11 position the confusion of why things happen so when we start to clear a word as simple as hope

53:17 it gives us that same answer gives you the ability to know that there are answers and solutions you do deserve to

53:24 be here and it’s a matter of making that decision and you deserve to make that decision for yourself

53:30 to be here whether anybody wants you here or not it’s not the the answer that you’re

53:36 looking for you need to have that answer hope is is really internal we are born

53:41 with hope we are born with the will to survive our basic instinct as human

53:46 beings is survival and this is why the moment that we’re born we will cry

53:52 or we will want food or we will need attention we are basically you know very powerful machines

53:59 the human body and we have basically just thought so they basically have to just clear the

54:05 ability to understand what the word hope means and not and it’s easier said than done

54:11 it’s not something that i’m gonna admit at any point in time in my life that you

54:16 don’t want to give up and give up hope because when you when you want to go into that dark uh essence in your

54:23 mind that’s when you want to get rid of the word hope even in your vocabulary that’s where you

54:28 have to keep that little dictionary that little you know the words have frequency

54:34 and this is how i use the words in the music because i believe every single word has power and every single word has a

54:41 frequency and when it’s sung to you then that frequency is even stronger and so like every music note has its

54:48 frequency to heal you this is where we’re learning our ability to

54:53 you know sing or have song or have faith because of this lockdown well there’s

54:59 nothing stopping you from having that inner faith in your own home in your own room i’ll i’ll be by myself in my room i put

55:06 on my own music and i think to myself um i don’t find it that i need to

55:11 be a big person out in the public eye i need to know who i need to be for

55:17 myself um giving them a sense of hope is i’m still here

55:22 and i’m telling you if you knew the entire story of what i went through in my life it is one of the scariest movies you’ll

55:29 ever see and i’m smiling because i use you know i suffer from uh excessive happiness that’s considered a

55:37 disorder apparently my excessive happiness is something that really bothers professionals

55:43 so i want people to understand that they can continue to just be themselves even if they’re

55:48 effing up even if they don’t know how they’re going to stop abusing something

55:54 as long as they have that word hope to clear they have a chance and they deserve to be now that’s

56:00 amazing uh steve my brother can you do me a favor just click the mute button on your call i’m

56:05 hearing uh all sorts of sounds actually you know now that you’ve said hope

56:11 um you know because what we’re actually looking at is a lot of quantum grammar and this is

56:17 the the the vibrational effects of words right so um you know i actually want to

56:23 go ahead and i want to look at uh hope under microscope right

56:29 um i’m going to pull this up now hope that we’re doing it we’re clearing our words

56:34 yeah exactly hope uh in my song i add some really strange words so

56:41 there we go so it’s actually here i’m just looking

56:48 i do remember here it is here so hope actually i’m pulling it up on the screen guys uh hopefully you can see this let me

56:55 just pull this up uh hope is a really it really comes up with a really beautiful

57:01 um it’s it’s beautiful i mean so we’re actually seeing now

57:08 the vibrational effect of the word hope on water and it really is beautiful and

57:14 what we do know is that um what we do know is that

57:19 low vibrations have very poor molecular structures underwater i’ll just bring it up here you can see some of the let me

57:26 just bring that up over there so so you’re right hope is something that’s very powerful no one can argue that we’re literally looking at

57:32 its effect on water on a molecular level and it’s beautiful that you’ve just

57:38 mentioned that that really is inspiring and guys negative emotions create

57:44 negatively organized structures under microscope i just want to put that in there so that’s amazing that’s really

57:51 beautiful and what does this world what does the world look like that you would like to live in

57:59 um a world that i would like to live in like your vision of the future you know your vision of a a positive happy lovely

58:08 future i believe a world where we live in in

58:14 truth but we also live in positive energy so um we would have to really

58:23 reconstruct the way that we believe um the way that we should be living we

58:29 might have to alter it in some manner um because for people to be positive it is kind of

58:34 an alter it’s a change it’s kind of scary we’re very adjusted to the norm of just being

58:41 everyday machines and and doing what we’re told what day it is what week it is how what time it

58:47 is um and we really need to let go of all this structure and just be human um to give the ability

58:55 back to ourselves to understand that love and especially frequency like we’re what

59:01 over 65 water as human beings so then you wonder why in hope it has an attachment to how

59:08 water and frequency it relates to our positive levels so we have to re-educate

59:16 and live in a world full of truth means proper education proper knowledge proper information

59:22 where we we really understand who we are and what we’re capable of because we have

59:28 so much to understand of how capable we are as human beings and what we can actually master for

59:33 ourselves with with or without our bodies and so we need to be given that opportunity to have that full truth we

59:41 really uh are forbidden certain knowledges uh if that knowledge is out there it’s not given to us until decades in

59:48 advance i would hope to live in a in a world of truth and of course that would entail us

59:53 not to be insane and positive and happy because truth truth is a beautiful word as well

1:00:00 to clear like hope it gives you that opportunity to see all the good things that life has

1:00:06 to offer that is beautiful i’m actually going to bring up uh you guys can’t see it but i’m going to bring up

1:00:11 truth uh what it looks like once it’s frozen under microscope because it’s beautiful

1:00:18 you know these words are using not just words they’re actually uh vibrational uh signals

1:00:25 that are actually affecting us on uh you know as i said a molecular level and

1:00:31 in in all sorts of ways so let’s look at this so this is actually the word that’s you beautiful sorry about that uh

1:00:38 there’s the word truth uh i don’t know google’s just not really doing me any favors right now i’ll be

1:00:44 very honest with you let me just save that there real quick and then i’ll open this up so oh god come on

1:00:54 technology so truth is also you know what’s funny is truth’s structure under microscope looks very similar to

1:01:02 hope how funny um really beautiful uh let me just try open

1:01:09 this real quick before i get to my next question that was such a beautiful answer i completely agree with you we need to

1:01:16 live in a world full of truth i think there’s far too much illusion but that’s what the word truth looks

1:01:21 like when you say it into water and freeze that water under the microscope

1:01:27 i mean unbelievable beautiful structure and these are what these these words these frequencies are doing

1:01:33 so it’s so important you know i don’t even i don’t want to use the word survivor and i was advised not to

1:01:39 because it perpetuates victim you know and if we continually keep doing that then

1:01:44 it makes it you know even healing suggests that you’re in a constant state of disarray

1:01:50 so it’s these words we use and i think right now as people on this planet we’re starting

1:01:55 to learn the reality of these words and these frequencies and you know this is really

1:02:01 helping us put us in a position of of more truth as you said so to go back to my next question i

1:02:07 really love that answer what brings you joy in life right now

1:02:13 brings me joy nature really brings me joy i love going for drives i love being

1:02:20 around water for example this is why i live in ottawa i love living near the ottawa river or the ability to go

1:02:26 close to nature it’s something where i i like to try and ground myself i i love

1:02:33 listening to the music on like a car ride and then stopping and enjoying nature

1:02:39 uh it’s been at this point in my life i’ve never reconnected with nature in this way in many many many years since i was a

1:02:44 child so now it’s like when you go up and you go hug a tree you look like a really weird person well

1:02:50 you know i just uh i would rather put my feet in the ground and ground myself

1:02:55 to the magnetic energy of what i can pull out of the earth to strengthen myself um and i just love everything about

1:03:02 books and everything about words this is just a fascinating subject for me to you know i only got as far as a high

1:03:10 school education i didn’t have the opportunity to really go farther in school because of the way my life had

1:03:15 been situated at the time and now i have every opportunity to pick up a book to do uh any kind of reading or

1:03:22 knowledge gaining on my own will of my own course and every word is like

1:03:28 a new fascinating like i don’t say healing i say uh clearing right um

1:03:34 there’s just a fascinating way of learning more words gives you an uh an opportunity to really look at life

1:03:40 in a different way and even the word life because every every word has its specific frequency and meaning and

1:03:47 that’s why especially if you if you start writing music or you start writing lyrics you get that sensation when

1:03:54 you’re putting a sentence together you’re like wow you know i don’t know if they know what i mean by saying this but

1:04:00 i can feel what i’m saying by writing this so right now it’s uh nature and i’ll

1:04:06 bring my book out with me i’ll sit by the tree and i’ll write some lyrics and just watch nature and and you ever

1:04:12 listen to what the wind is saying to you that’s what i do you ever listen to the breeze in between the trees and the

1:04:19 leaves you really pay close attention and nature is always communicating with you there’s always a part of life there

1:04:25 that’s so beautiful i love it answer oh that’s really beautiful um

1:04:33 that’s so awesome i’m enjoying that we were able to to to to have led this towards this

1:04:39 positive energy it’s almost symbolic of this transmutational experience that you you’ve gone through and gone towards

1:04:47 so yeah so um let me ask

1:04:55 how do we ensure we can take better protection of everyone on this planet

1:05:03 so we’re in a time of of really increasing technology for example and so when you have

1:05:11 the power and ability to increase technology to a level of yes hiding certain things you also

1:05:18 have that ability to put things in a perspective to keep people safe

1:05:24 so we have to fight as human beings to have the access to that knowledge

1:05:31 because we understand that there are people in on this planet that really have an accessible amount of

1:05:37 ability to put technology to a level that you know i could hardly learn i turn on the computer that’s pretty much what i know

1:05:43 how to do but then we have the ability to have microchips in us to have abilities to

1:05:49 to look and monitor us as an entire human race how do we determine though um that

1:05:55 that’s the answer we determine it by being able to measure how how truth is

1:06:00 measured it means of how we feel about each other if we don’t try to get rid of all the

1:06:10 skeletons in the closet first that we have as a human race we really can’t progress to the next

1:06:16 level to protect ourselves so unfortunately we are going to have to air the dirty laundry

1:06:22 first admit to our mistakes that you know the only way that you are able to change from your mistakes is

1:06:28 by learning by them by omitting to them and so we know that technology has been

1:06:33 used in a negative way okay let’s admit it and now let’s figure out a way together

1:06:39 where we create a law around the world that any technology that moves forward has to be at the availability

1:06:47 and the knowledge of the human race if it’s not available to all of us then it can be used against us

1:06:53 and we have basic human rights around the world they’re not being uh obliged to they’re

1:06:59 not being followed and until we really address the un and really you know certain organizations that

1:07:05 really run our planet it means of decision making for processes of our our daily

1:07:10 living we really need to gather as many citizens as we can in every country

1:07:16 to try and address that there’s no possible way we can make a safer future if we don’t have

1:07:22 access to that information of that safer future we’re kind of guessing we’re kind of

1:07:28 left in the dark and then the ones that you know don’t really have the ability to have

1:07:33 access to the education that’s not the excuse the excuse is refraining from delivering that

1:07:40 information we have to make it a basic law that denying us information

1:07:45 is against the law if we have accessibility to information especially

1:07:52 the understanding to technology okay so they’ve been making these chips for

1:07:58 to put in human beings to alter us to remove mental illnesses there’s all kinds of things that are out

1:08:03 there that are really great that could be part of technology to make us a a safer human race uh being able to you

1:08:10 know like a movie reminds me of minority report with tom cruise like they have the ability to get to

1:08:16 that point of technology to even stop crying before it happens and they have that now

1:08:22 so why are we not accessing this why are we not having it available to the human race

1:08:27 it people can’t deal with the word truth and they can’t deal with all the

1:08:33 knowledge coming to them we have to do it in baby steps we have to do it slowly and gradually and let

1:08:40 you know lift the veil and then from there we have to use this technology we are a future race

1:08:45 this is you know the age of technology will keep progressing and progressing to a point where we won’t even need to

1:08:53 to have this conversation we’ll just push something on us and we’ll be able to communicate

1:08:58 um but at that point how do we trust that so we really have to use that word trust to get a basic uh

1:09:06 belief system within the human race we don’t have a trust system right now with human beings so there’s

1:09:12 we don’t have a trust system in place because we have laws we have laws because there’s a lack of

1:09:18 trust right so if everyone was doing what they were supposed to be doing and and

1:09:24 obliging to you know a human rights code never mind a law then we wouldn’t have these issues of

1:09:30 trust okay so we basically have to start re-educating on a basic vocabulary

1:09:36 before we even address beautiful basic questions so i i agree um just to let you know

1:09:43 our organization and we need to do things very fast um we actually have a plan to have mass

1:09:50 action uh in different countries all over the world where we’re getting

1:09:55 uh individuals to support uh common law um correspondence where we’re going to

1:10:03 hold public court proceedings within us the people’s jurisdiction and we’re going to hold these acting members of these private

1:10:09 corporations which you call governments accountable for perpetuating an ongoing system of

1:10:15 deception in the fact that of constructive fraud which is uh that lies in the fact that when we

1:10:22 were born we are unlawfully converted as man or woman into incorporated government property

1:10:27 everything is being incorporated so we’re trying to really uh you know does come back to truth you

1:10:33 are correct and i agree we want to live in a world uh full of truth so our big campaign is surrounding actually

1:10:39 um addressing this one uh level of core deception just to let you know uh now um

1:10:47 you know and it’s great why i’m speaking to you we are having this uh hard conversation i’m so glad we have

1:10:53 really put it in uh we’ve put it in a good space um it seems as though my batteries died

1:10:59 in my camera but we’re going to end off with you and the thing is what is your final

1:11:07 message towards everyone uh your final heartfelt

1:11:12 message that you feel is important because at the end of the day i wanted you to come on here and uh

1:11:18 well before we get to that actually let’s just see what uh old steve has to say i am quite curious

1:11:25 he’s been sitting here silently steve you’re still there buddy why don’t you turn your mic on and uh let us know what is your positive

1:11:33 take on this all this

1:12:06 c

1:12:28 nice and that is what i’m trying to do with different projects that i have on the go with different friends and just

1:12:37 just help those people need to be able to reach out it’s very unfortunate you’re actually

1:12:42 muted this whole time the software is a bit complicated uh you could yeah yeah you’re on the

1:12:50 scarf call sorry about that steve what so it’s it’s so you’re gonna have to start again i’m so sorry about that man

1:12:57 yeah can you hear me am i coming through now okay okay yeah i unmuted myself so as

1:13:04 long as you can hear me now all right so i’ll start over so my takeaway

1:13:09 from all of this is that everyone has a purpose in life

1:13:16 and you know a lot of us do not know what that is but i feel like deep down inside

1:13:23 if you can reach within yourself you know what it is you just haven’t realized it yet so

1:13:29 for me personally in a church one time when i was camping and the pastor asked who here

1:13:36 knows what they want to do for the rest of their life i was the only one that raised my hand actually

1:13:41 he said you sir are not normal and i said yeah yeah i know i know uh i

1:13:49 have something called oppositional defiance disorder according to psychiatrists a bit of a rebel myself so

1:13:56 it’s just positivity and it doesn’t matter what you do we need to learn how to ask help ask for

1:14:03 help uh talk to our friends not be afraid to confide in somebody look for people that

1:14:10 we can trust and just try to make the world a better safer happier

1:14:16 place overall and i have a couple projects on the go with some good friends of mine and that is my goal

1:14:22 to just get everyone to be able to radiate and have positivity there’s way

1:14:29 too much fear going on right now all over the tv and social media and we need to change that

1:14:35 and that’s one of the reasons i reached out to you because i saw your channel and you just have so

1:14:42 much to offer love hope freedom peace prosperity and there’s a lot of evil

1:14:48 in this world and we can’t just ignore it we have to talk about it

1:14:56 but also at the same time do something about it and offer a solution so that’s kind of

1:15:03 my take on that and i hope that came across the way that i wanted it to so yeah good job man you’re

1:15:09 being quite modest steve you’ve been helping me so prolifically in the background and and and

1:15:15 and uh you connected me to josiah because you really do care you care so much for these kids and these

1:15:22 injustices that are taking place and it’s quite funny that you you woke up uh this year

1:15:28 to all of this and now you’re so active you know what i find so funny is that some of the people that have been waking

1:15:33 up this year they are so so active and towards positively

1:15:39 contributing towards this huge transitional period that we’re going through so you know

1:15:44 thank you so much steve i really do appreciate it uh and jasara that is how i

1:15:50 i i say your name corrects

1:15:56 uh the italian way would be jasara jasara but yes i i really think this year

1:16:04 is the year that we see things 2020 right we have 20 20 vision this year so i

1:16:10 believe a lot of people whether they’ve been uh ready for it or not have been awakening and for for most of us uh in and people

1:16:18 that have been through what i’ve been through in life like we’ve seen this for 30 something years so we’re very

1:16:24 grateful that there’s uh so many people waking up because what you need to understand too i don’t want

1:16:29 people to to be worried as well where steve mentioned something about evil uh being really prevalent at this time

1:16:37 there is no balance without evil so evil can only exist if there’s good to

1:16:42 exist it’s a balance of of like life and death so when we when we take into

1:16:47 account that we have to recognize that evil will always be there we always have that evil even

1:16:52 within ourselves we have to to fight to keep that balance and so now we have the ability where

1:16:59 everyone is like really fighting for that balance and this is a good thing and we don’t want people to feel

1:17:05 regretful or angry um some people will be like why did you care 30 years ago you know um i’m happy that someone is

1:17:13 just you know i’m i’m grateful for my experience whether it was uh an evil or good

1:17:18 experience or not i’m grateful for what it taught me it helps me realize how much more

1:17:23 compassion i need for other people and i and i understand that it’s still a struggle for myself every day and that’s

1:17:30 good because then it helps me understand how to help other people uh by being as raw and real as i can be

1:17:36 by struggling along with them and my message to everyone would be is that uh jessara loves you if nobody

1:17:42 loves you then shazara loves you and i would want them to say that to themselves and say it in the mirror

1:17:47 right steve right right so um i give people the attention even

1:17:53 though i don’t have the time or not some people reach out to me especially through facebook or

1:17:58 through social media and they can’t believe that they’re talking directly to me because i’ve had that opportunity where

1:18:04 i tried to reach out to another worldwide person that was trying

1:18:09 to come out about her abuse and she kind of let me down and so i disconnected that conversation

1:18:16 but i i didn’t give up on her trying to give people hope um that is still a prolific word to

1:18:22 clear because people need to understand that you deserve to be here you are loved if you believe nobody

1:18:28 loves you well josiah loves you just like people say jesus loves you josiah loves you um

1:18:35 you know i don’t i don’t believe in being a martyr or in sacrifice i don’t believe in idolizing

1:18:40 uh items or people or things i believe the one thing that we have to focus on is ourselves first and foremost

1:18:48 because we can’t be a good partner friend wife mother community member

1:18:54 without being a healthy ourselves so we have to put ourselves first and that shouldn’t be a selfish tactic

1:19:01 it should be something that people really look forward to doing every day to being

1:19:06 their first priority and uh i just want to send out a message keep yourself as a

1:19:11 first priority keep yourself motivated remember the word hope clear the word

1:19:17 and now that josiah loves you that is absolutely beautiful what a lovely way to um

1:19:24 that is so beautiful so you know i’m very glad to have met you um steve buddy thank you very much

1:19:31 uh for setting this up really do appreciate that and uh you know maybe we will yes no

1:19:37 worries more conversations in the future i’ve really enjoyed speaking to you

1:19:43 you’re such a shining light of inspiration and hope we started off very dense

1:19:49 but we had to we had to we had to visit um you know these things we have to

1:19:54 address certain things we can’t turn a blind eye you know we cannot transmute uh darkness

1:20:00 into light if we ignore the darkness if we’re unaware of the darkness if we’re outside of the darkness and sometimes it

1:20:07 really does come down to embracing it and i believe in what it is that you’ve said you have you know you have in your

1:20:13 own way embraced it and and and i think you’ve progressed significantly throughout all these years

1:20:19 maybe it is somewhat of a slow clearing process we don’t use the word healing we’ll use the word clearing

1:20:25 as you just mentioned but nonetheless it has been progressive i can imagine

1:20:30 and i do believe you have come a long way so i really do want to thank you for being a shining light of hope

1:20:36 i do hope that this video can act as a shining light of hope for others out there that have been through

1:20:42 uh similar circumstances and from the bottom of my heart i just want to thank you so much for coming on here and sharing that

1:20:51 it’s very brave of you it’s very powerful of you and i really do appreciate that and i’m

1:20:56 feeling inspired and i’m sure a lot of other people are feeling inspired too so thank you so

1:21:03 much

Jay Parker Alfred Webre Interview Transcript

This post is the transcript of the interview between Alfred Webre and Jay Parker.

Alfred Webre Jay Parker: How 34 million Satanic/Illuminati Americans keep Earth in turmoil [4c]

There are many items of importance in the interview, but I just want to highlight the estimate of satanic illuminati generational “bloodline” families – approximately 10% of the population in the US.

Illuminati it’s all about the control business and it’s all about making the other 90% of humanity, slaves and the 10% of humanity rulers. My mother told me in 1963, that although she said it was 12 percent of America were generational satanists I’d like to use the figure of 10 percent, so basically we have 34 million generational Satanists pedophiles working for the elites, and if you want to know who the lead are you need to read the book Bloodlines of the Illuminati by the author Fritz Springmeier.

For more on Jay Parker see 2020 Jun 8 Jay Parker Illuminati Whistleblower [1]

Links

[4c] Alfred Webre Jay Parker: How 34 million Satanic/Illuminati Americans keep Earth in turmoil https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Jay-Parker_-How-34-million-Satanic_Illuminati-Americans-keep-Earth-in-turmoil-euOKBjMkk6I:d

[1] 2020 Jun 8 Jay Parker Illuminati Whistleblower https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2020/06/08/jay-parker-illuminati-whistleblower/

Transcript

0:07 a lot laughing hi there welcome back and

0:14 we just saw each other over last last weekend at the for your mind conference

0:23 we have the privilege today joining us

0:28 on Exopolitics TV is mr. Jay Parker who was born into a multi-generational

0:36 satanic illuminati family and received monarch trauma-based mind control as a

0:42 child for the first seven years of his life Jay was subject to satanic ritual abuse

0:48 in the large cult setting and Jay now speaks on recovery and healing methods

0:55 prasit anak ritual abuse survivors he discusses in detail neurological and

1:01 biological discoveries were related to ritual abuse and reveals a specialized

1:08 holistic approach for satanic ritual

1:13 abuse healing welcome Jay thank you it’s a pleasure to be here great well you

1:21 know I thought that that we could cover

1:26 three topics in this hour-long interview the first topic and this is really sort

1:36 of a first interview in this area for our Channel Exopolitics TV ah and

1:47 starting with the subject of satanic illuminati penetration no pun intended

1:58 of us and world Society now what I found

2:04 amazing and if you just give me a moment is that I began doing research and I’m

2:13 just going to where people would normally go to do research they would

2:18 say ah allegations of cult base abuse is the

2:23 most extreme scenario of satanic ritual abuse during the initial period of

2:30 interest a satanic was used to describe a network of Satan worshipping secretive

2:38 intergenerational cults that were supposedly part of a highly organized conspiracy engaged in criminal behavior

2:45 such as force prostitution drug distribution and pornography these cults

2:52 were also thought to sexually abuse and torture children in order to force them

2:57 into a lifetime of devil worship now I want to get to this one sentence and if

3:03 you as a survivor could sort of come back to this theme this is from

3:09 Wikipedia no evidence of any of these claims has ever been found

3:16 and it has four different footnotes to that so it’s clear that even even in

3:23 Wikipedia there is an institutional cover-up of our very topic that we’re

3:33 addressing today which is the satanic illuminati networks and you come here as

3:43 being born into a multi-generational satanic illuminati family as a witness

3:49 to that and we’re all very appreciative because at least I myself have no

3:57 personal knowledge of that so if you could talk to us maybe for the next 10

4:03 or 15 minutes or more about the satanic illuminati multi-generational families

4:12 and what that’s all about how did it come about how extensive is

4:17 it and what are their aims their methods all of that well my father and his History of the Illuminati

4:29 family joined the Illuminati in the 1720 long before Adam why shop declared the

4:38 Illuminati in Bavaria in 1776 the Illuminati and other dark occult

4:46 networks goes back probably to the Cataclysm on earth at 9600 BC after that

4:58 Cataclysm the human race and the earth was in a state of shock and dismay at

5:05 that particular time from my research I would say the dark occult is in

5:12 restarting civilization in India and in

5:17 Babylon decided why not take over the

5:24 whole ball of wax keep people in the dark and will be basically the evil

5:32 priests craft that controls their minds the history of the Illuminati that I

5:40 know of from my parents goes back to 3000 BC with my mother

5:48 Josette Parker a schoolteacher and she

5:53 went to dickinson college and met my father there I believe Dickinson College in Carlisle

5:59 Pennsylvania is a huge CIA Illuminati

6:04 College most of the friends my mother introduced a family to from her time in

6:12 college were all cult members but basically let’s let’s start with an

6:19 overview of the history of the Illuminati and try to figure out where these elite families

6:25 came from and how they achieved godlike status in the world today one of the

6:35 best authors to read if you’re researching reality rather than watching television is an author by the name of

6:42 Joseph P Farrell he has many books on the secret Nazi program

6:48 for science and space technology but he

6:54 also has written two books on banking because these books

7:00 Babylon’s banksters and babylon banksters tells an interesting story of

7:07 prehistory Alfred you’ll find an interesting back in the time of say

7:15 3,000 BC the West the Mediterranean and

7:21 Babylon in Egypt consider gold the number one high-value mineral in the

7:29 East China Malaysia it was considered to

7:35 be silver it on both Asia and the

7:42 Mediterranean region it was a fifty to one ratio of gold silver or silver to

7:50 gold what these dark occultists set up in their trading partners in da asia was

8:02 that they would go to asia from the

8:07 mediterranean with a nice amount of silver and buy gold at fifty to one and

8:15 they would come back with a load of gold from asia purchased for a low price and

8:24 then they would turn that in buy a little bit of silver and they would go

8:29 back and forth and basically each trip you were accumulating more and more gold

8:35 so eventually after a thousand two thousand years of this gold and silver

8:43 trade certain families certain oligarch families that were dark occultus

8:51 basically ended up with all the gold and I’d say around the time of Christ

8:57 throughout the world gold was considered the number one commodity so that’s how they became

9:06 richer than God and once you have the money you’re able to corrupt politicians

9:14 if royalty and basically slowly control

9:20 society the dark and coldest okay sorry Zoroaster Religion

9:27 I’ve basically been controlling religion in the West since 3,000 BC with the

9:35 start of zouri asterism the duality Zoroaster religion basically is an R

9:44 tonic religion that states that the Supreme Being the Supreme God creates

9:51 both good and evil well if you have a God that creates both good and evil

9:56 where is there for you to hide there’s really no safe place for your

10:02 consciousness because you never know what the trysts or god is going to do

10:08 this fits in well with the dark occult mentality of keeping people in fear so

10:18 as you study Judaism as you study some

10:23 of the twisted cults out of Judaism like

10:29 thes at Akeem who are extremely radical you see that the patriarchy just from

10:36 zuri asterisms SiC 3,000 BC just keeps marching further and further away from a

10:46 society where men and women are equal to a patriarchal society that’s basically

10:54 very domineering the controllers who

11:00 control the financial institutions and the political institutions become more

11:07 and more violent and then of course eventually with the destruction of the

11:12 Gnostics and the Illuminati make Christianity the state religion then you

11:21 have all of the egalitarian societies

11:26 that were focused around the angel worship and equality between the sexes

11:33 being butchered in Europe first for oh I guess and I’m we’re talking seven eight

11:43 hundred years of totaled just genocide there’s a story of Shortell men going

11:48 into a village during a a May Day festival in Germany and just

11:55 slaughtering three five thousand people and to get a grasp of the Illuminati

12:02 religion that is Christianity I would highly recommend the book not in his

12:10 image by John lamb lash uh most people don’t understand what the true ancient

12:17 classical world mystery cults were about the code of D&D sees the cult of actists

12:23 the code of Mithra these were all

12:29 mystery schools that basically served as Mystery Cults

12:35 metaphors for human consciousness the stories of these gods these gods were

12:41 never considered to be real or alive or historical there were metaphors for

12:47 aspects of consciousness but in the classic mystery schools of the Gnostics

12:53 people went there to be taught they went there to learn crafts and trades they

13:00 went there to become initiates of the basic religion of a balanced brain if

13:08 you know the truth about humanity that we have two hemispheres at left in the

13:15 right hemisphere and to become a fully

13:20 aware spiritual human being you need to balance your masculine and feminine

13:27 spec’s the left and right side of your brain and form a coherent walk in your

13:38 life where you’re neither an abuser nor a victim the Illuminati know this and so

13:45 all their religions basically focus on

13:51 making someone right brain in balance which would be a New Age religion person

13:58 so they become a doormat for any corruption that’s in the world or a left

14:04 brain adherent or imbalance person which

14:09 would be Christianity or Islam where you have to march around the world killing

14:15 all the infidels and all the savages my

14:22 parents trace their Illuminati history back my mother back to the Amalekite

14:28 people of the Middle East 3000 BC and

14:34 mother the daughter witchcraft dark occult witchcraft from that time I was a

14:43 grave disappointment to my family I really didn’t like what they were doing

14:48 and once my brain started ramping up at the age of five years old six years old

14:55 I started resisting the satanic programming to become a cult member the

15:04 Illuminati and the New World Order which is the system they’re trying to bring

15:09 into the United States and the world has been a plan that has been probably The Illuminati

15:18 developed around the time of the first Roman Empire people do not understand

15:25 that to live in a generational Illuminati family is basically like

15:31 being born into a family where your generational Baker’s your father was a

15:38 baker you’re going to be a baker and your son it’s going to be a bagel and it’s all

15:43 about the baking business well the Illuminati it’s all about the

15:49 control business and it’s all about making the other 90% of humanity slaves

15:56 and the 10% of humanity rulers my mother

16:02 told me in 1963 that although she said it was 12 percent of America was

16:08 generational were generational sickness I’d like to use the figure of 10 percent

16:15 so basically we have 34 million generational Satanists pedophiles

16:21 working for the elites and if you want to know who the lead are you need to

16:26 read the book bloodlines of the Illuminati by the author Fritz Spring

16:32 Mar it’s available at the Infowars bookstore that info wars.com that’s a

16:39 good place to start in researching the oligarchs who control your society right

16:48 now alfrid basically what the Illuminati has been doing since World War two is

16:55 taking away any semblance of education from the American people and the world

17:01 in general and putting what I would say

17:07 are soft kill chemicals into our

17:13 environment these soft kill chemicals for the mass of humanity are number one

17:22 fluoride sodium fluoride is a byproduct of aluminum smelting and of also of

17:30 nuclear technology sodium fluoride costs

17:36 fifty thousand dollars to have a 55-gallon drum of it disposed of

17:44 properly under EPA standards so the aluminum and nuclear industry decided

17:51 why should we pay a fortune to get this toxic waste when we can just broad

17:57 a bunch of dentists and pay them off and built all the people that hey it’s great

18:04 for your teeth but if you go to fluoride Action Network and read up and study

18:14 about fluoride there’s an excellent book called the fluoride deception and you

18:23 will get the history of fluoride it is a neurotoxin it is considered by most

18:29 scientists who are honest to be one of the top cancer causing agents in our

18:38 society that were being of exposed to on a daily basis

18:44 it makes people docile it was used in the prison camps and the concentration

18:52 camps of both the Soviet Union and the Nazis it makes people docile easily

19:00 controlled weak-minded and basically you

19:08 want to be a zombie make sure you get your fluoride because that’s number one

19:13 the Illuminati in addition to fluoride after World War two they went on a

19:20 program of taking nitrogen phosphorus and putting them into fertilizing

19:30 packages and selling them to agriculture nitrogen and phosphorus will make your

19:37 plants grow faster and seemingly stronger this of course is a biological

19:44 lie but once you start let’s say using

19:50 drugs on your plants you get addicted to

19:55 the system of jacking up your plants with these artificial fertilizers so the

20:04 plant grows quickly and seemingly strong there’s only one problem there’s no

20:10 nutrition in it and the plants themselves as compared to an organic

20:18 biomass where organic plants are grown not only are they low in actual

20:25 nutrition they also are more susceptible to fungicides fungus and pests so you

20:35 have to use herbicides fungicides and pesticides to keep the artificially

20:42 produced phosphate nitrogen plants growing and making you money for harvest

20:50 so you produce this crop that is very

20:55 weak and needs chemicals to protect it from nature’s pests so then those

21:01 chemicals are absorbed by the plant so what do people eat when they eat

21:07 conventional food given to them by their loving Illuminati oligarchs they’re

21:13 eating pesticide fungicide herbicide and

21:20 there’s no nutrition in it compared to an organically grown natural biomass

21:28 plant so you’re getting slow killed that way too because the more you eat the

21:35 less satisfaction your body has biochemically and so that’s one of the

21:41 reasons you see so many obese people they’re literally eating artificially

21:47 raised plastic fruits and vegetables another thing the Illuminati control

21:54 system is has done since World War two is really taking taking a lock down on

22:03 the economies of the West Japan and

22:08 America if you look around at how the

22:13 banks have manipulated the Western world in the time since

22:20 world war two you will find that it’s a

22:27 system of boom and bust that the central bank’s throughout the West have been

22:32 engaging in so you were speaking about the bank’s before we have the

22:38 interruption yes since of World War two the entire Western economies have been

22:46 controlled by the Rothschild rockefeller banking cartel so uh what how did the

22:57 satanic illuminati networks work through the banks well uh webster tarpley a

23:09 historian of has followed the Illuminati oligarchs out of the Roman Empire to

23:18 Venice in the Middle Ages and they were known as the black Venetians and they

23:28 were the merchants who became the bankers of the world then they moved from Venice it’s Germany northern France

23:38 and Holland and the time of Henry the

23:47 eighth was when the black Venetian Illuminati nobility struck a deal with

23:55 Henry Tudor and Henry Tudor was the one who sold England out to the Illuminati and since

24:05 that time the Illuminati have been using England as a along with America as a

24:13 cannon fodder and pyre builder but now

24:23 what people do not understand is these ancient crime families uh communicate

24:31 worldwide with one another and they’re not against working together to

24:38 rob the masses of humanity the oh The business cycle

24:46 there’s so many things I’ve studied when it comes to the banks but the main thing

24:53 I want to talk about that get people to understand is this business cycle

25:01 mentality that people are told of boom and bust is nothing but central bank

25:08 manipulation so that as you expand your

25:13 business in a boom and take out loans then when they collapse the money supply

25:21 which is what they did in 2008 here in America and worldwide then the banks are

25:28 able to go in and buy everything for pennies on the dollar and when it comes

25:35 to the Illuminati power base it’s not just the ancient royal houses of Queen

25:42 Elizabeth and Queen Beatrix and some of the other royal households in Europe and in Asia the banking families like

25:52 Rothschild and Rockefeller and Morgan are very big it’s said that the Queen of

25:59 England is worth 17 trillion dollars and that the Rothschilds are worth over 300

26:06 trillion if you have that kind of money you can basically make any government

26:14 dance to your tune and unfortunately these people are darker cultists they

26:21 have an agenda to take the entire planet for themselves and they’re well on the way to achieving that that gold but as I

26:31 said Alfred a babylon banksters by

26:37 Joseph P Farrell both books would be an excellent place to start reading about

26:44 the bankers to control your society that’s the core of the Illuminati as far as control is

26:52 of course the money the golden rule us the gold rules and

27:00 another thing people need to look out for of course is what they do with that

27:07 money propping up dictators and actually creating problems and there’s an author

27:14 by the name of Anthony Sutton he is he’s a Yale scholar he’s written two books

27:22 Wall Street and the Bolsheviks how the banks in England and America created the

27:30 Soviet Union and also Hitler and Wall

27:35 Street how the Wall Street and British Bankers bankrolled Hitler up until one

27:44 month before the end of World War two the International the Bank of

27:51 International Settlements in Zurich Switzerland was receiving

27:58 interest payments from the Nazis to the bank bankers in America and in England

28:07 so it they were getting paid on their investment in Hitler up until one month

28:15 before the end of the war yeah it’s all it’s all a scam really they saw all of a

28:24 big stage show to keep you a mood I mused and think that there’s actually

28:32 different political factions out there nothing moves on this planet without the

28:38 Illuminati’s approval now and uh you know now it is now now you mentioned Jay Parkers experience

28:45 starting that you yourself are from an Illuminati uh a satanic

28:54 multi-generational satanic illuminati family going back to the 3000 BC era could you

29:04 describe specifically the experiences you went through in your family and in

29:12 similar families that you came into contact with when you’re born into a a

29:21 multi-generational satanic family you’re told that the Illuminati controls the

29:27 world and basically you’re on the winning team hooray a child born into a

29:38 multi-generational Illuminati family is tortured raped drugged and mind

29:45 controlled for the first six years of your life the reason being the subconscious of a

29:52 human being is built in the first six years of life that is when as a young

30:01 child you are in what psychologists and

30:06 physiologists call a hypnagogic trance your mind is downloading all sensory

30:16 information directly into your subconscious your subconscious runs 98%

30:26 of your decisions and your attitudes and thoughts in your life it’s a thousand

30:33 times more powerful than the conscious thought as far as processing power just in every

30:41 way your subconscious runs your life so the Illuminati get to their children at

30:48 an early age and put them through a program of horrific sexual and physical

30:57 torture this is so that the synaptic pathways of the brain are warped and the

31:06 chemicals of the Illuminati secondary Psychopaths

31:12 are different than someone who was raised in a loving nurturing family you

31:18 you have actually been hijacked into what appears to be a human being on the

31:25 outside but in physical reality chemically and in neural net reality

31:36 you’re you’re probably closer to a reptilian or an Archon right so so what Jay Parkers first 6 years

31:46 how did this unfold for you do you have memories of the first six years of your

31:51 life oh absolutely could you could you share some of those with us that you’re yes I grew up uh the

32:00 first three years of my life were spent in full Croft Pennsylvania and a small

32:07 rope house bunch of all their working-class families a lot of people

32:12 don’t understand this but the Illuminati is not just the elite families like the

32:18 DuPont’s the Rockefellers the Rothschilds the Illuminati stand back to

32:25 uh you know I say that it goes back to

32:32 the Cataclysm of 9600 BC but it’s way

32:38 back in ancient history that you start a cult a pedophile cults came at Earth

32:46 when you abuse a child with pedophilia

32:52 and torture there’s a natural

33:02 bonding system that you have with your parents by having this other situation

33:09 with your parents going on where they’re your attacker and abuser causes a

33:16 multiple identity personality because you have the instinctive reality of

33:24 wanting to love your caregiver your parents and then you have this other Illuminati reality of your

33:32 Illuminati mana mind-control handler which is you know for the most part of

33:37 your parents and so it really causes the skits skits Janet got a situation in

33:43 your mind there’s a book by Fritz premyer an Illuminati researcher called

33:51 Illuminati mind-controlled slave you just look for us fritz spring meyers box

33:59 but how to create an undetectable mind-controlled slave how to create an

34:05 undetectable mind-control sleep and so you can go through reading about the

34:11 rituals that are performed in arden Delaware 90% of the children are from

34:18 pedophile human sacrificing dark occult families so at least once in their life

34:26 they will undergo a ritual where an innocent abducted child or young adult

34:33 is axe murder while the four five year

34:40 old victim of this trauma-based mind control is in a trance and then when the

34:47 arms and legs are cut off and the victim is choking to death on their blood as

34:56 their the torso is gashed horrific ly the this is what happened with me and

35:05 sin first spree Mars book how to create a undetectable mind-controlled slave

35:10 they bring you out of the trance they

35:16 had not a transit put you under and there is in my case a young girl about

35:22 14 who was abducted from Long Beach California also a major Illuminati

35:30 center a huge amount of satanic ritual

35:35 abuse and cult activity in Long Beach as well as passing and big centers of the pedophilia there

35:46 and if you go into the McMartin preschool case and look at what Ted Gunderson is written about it on the web

35:54 you’ll find that the government there there’s everything in our power to protect pedophile satanic cults but

36:02 that’s just one ritual you’ll go through you will be broken out of the trance

36:08 walking out of a trance to witness the left last dying guests of someone and

36:15 you will be told that you were the person that chopped their arms and legs

36:21 off and stabbed them a hundred times

36:39 a so uh you were you were talking about Trauma based satanic sacrifice

36:44 an example of the trauma based satanic sacrifice based mind control that you

36:53 went through uh how prevalent is this I mean is this part of why so many

37:00 children disappear yes uh 800,000 children a year disappear

37:09 in America it’s not a national scandal because the churches and the government

37:17 really don’t care about you 800,000 children disappear a year there

37:24 are 30 million satanic pedophiles out

37:30 there so you need quite a few children to do some of these deeper mind-control

37:37 techniques of human sacrifice I’m not saying 800,000 children are

37:43 being acts murdered in these rituals each year but I know what if you are now

37:50 in Orden where there each generation will be a hundred and fifty to two hundred children that are being groomed

37:58 for Illuminati rank-and-file service each one of them definitely in the

38:04 monarch program has at least one human sacrifice ritual performed for it to

38:13 really work them on but there’s other rituals like being buried alive and then

38:19 having a god-like figure above the pit you’re lowered into declaring that

38:26 you’re not in the book of life and a lot

38:31 of electroshock with cattle prods and

38:37 car batteries a lot of force sexual activity pleasing both men and women

38:47 orally and anally when I grew up

38:53 in and I was there from Oh 59 to 71 I

39:03 believe the kids that were in the cult

39:10 would occasionally talk about the abuse but for the most part it was something

39:16 that you just try not to think about but the woods of Arden Delaware in my

39:24 estimation have well over a thousand human sacrifices plus the fact that it’s

39:30 a dupont illuminati burial ground God knows how many business people that do

39:36 pons had to get rid of that got another way so I’m sure there’s over a thousand

39:43 bury both inna the Rose Valley Pennsylvania Marquis of Health

39:50 Colony and Arden Delaware work out in my mind now you’ve mentioned

39:56 the monarch program what is that program a monarch mind control it’s an offshoot

40:04 of trauma-based mind control that the illuminati had been doing mind control

40:10 to their children for thousands of years but also you have the modern techniques

40:18 that the Nazis have been developing in the concentration camps awesome Josef

40:24 Mengele my mother remark and very much and he was invited to come and live in

40:30 ardent but after the war of course when he escaped from Germany using the

40:37 Catholic Church’s ratlines Mengele did not go to Arden even though he was invited he ended up working in

40:44 st. Louis being supported by the CIA and there’s many quite a few of his

40:52 mind-control victims that are actually had their stories out in the web one

40:57 woman who spoke in front of a conference in New Haven Connecticut gives quite of

41:04 a Larson Mangala techniques to the psychiatrist but there’s 30,000 dark occult seat ‘no

41:15 sin america today and they’ve been obeying the oligarchs that have

41:21 trillions and billions of dollars yet on for a job for security for centuries

41:27 they are the henchmen of the elite unfortunately the henchmen the rank and

41:35 file are getting thrown under the bus along with the rest of humanity the plan

41:40 for agenda 21 is to eliminate at least eighty percent of the human race and

41:47 with the soft kill methods of floor rod cancer in the polio vaccines an

41:57 increasing level of polluted and dead

42:02 food which is not giving you any nutrition and then you go to the doctor and try to get help and seven hundred

42:11 and fifty thousand people a year according to Gary dr. Gary no die each year by going to the doctor for problem

42:19 a and dying a problem B that we mean if

42:25 you go in the hospital and they give you the wrong drug and you expire or you’re

42:33 basically you have a infection in the hospital and you die

42:39 the number of people that die from just contact with the medical establishment

42:47 in America and literally there’s nothing

42:52 to be said but to call it wrongful death is seven hundred and fifty thousand a

42:57 year according to Gary Null which suits the Illuminati fine the faster they can

43:02 eliminate the human race the better this this whole program of saving gaya uh you

43:10 need to take a look at Alex Jones’s movie hanging and get an idea of exactly

43:18 what’s going on it it’s not a system of saving the earth and restoring ecological goodness while

43:28 in a way it is of course you and your family won’t be here just just the

43:34 Rothschilds and the Queen so right it’s you bad for your bubbie

43:40 now now let me switch over to some of

43:46 the inter-dimensional and the dark occultic forces you we we started out

43:52 going back to the 9600 BC Cataclysm um

43:57 and you mentioned that that’s when the dark oak occultic forces could you name

44:04 some of those dark dark occultic forces what are we talking about here or just

44:12 what is it like a priest caste or yeah what is that

44:18 what it is well well of course this did start in its inception with what would be

44:27 considered the typical st and the Magi of the ancient classical world uh

44:34 selling out the human race to the highest bidder and and you find that

44:39 religion and banking and and royalty they very all work in concert together

44:46 and that’s way it is but this is an

44:51 interesting discussion on where are they and who are they well as to who are they

44:58 they’re everywhere the Reverend one let’s take the Mormon

45:05 Church there’s countless stories of interdimensional reptilians okay you’re

45:13 familiar with the Draco reptilians I’m sure yes now it discussed many many

45:21 people that have witnessed them under the main altar area in the temple in

45:28 Salt Lake City did we human sacrifice this this has been on the web for not 20

45:36 years you mean that what get there these are videos of interdimensional reptilians

45:43 doing human sacrifices under the altar of the main temple of the Mormons in

45:49 Salt Lake City is that what you’re saying well I don’t know if there’s any videos other eyewitnesses that I I

45:56 witness out of this yeah on web and when you when you look

46:02 at where did Mormonism come from well it came from Freemasonry all the founders

46:09 of Mormonism were freemasons so then you go back to the Merovingian bloodline

46:16 which is an Illuminati bloodline in Europe and you know all the founders are

46:23 Mormonism all Merovingian Illuminati bloodline basically Freemasons okay so

46:32 we’re talking about God religions now well the vast majority of people in most

46:40 religions are hardworking decent law-abiding citizens but at the top of

46:47 the religion where their decisions affect hundreds of thousands of millions

46:53 of people you’ll find collusion or actual dark Illuminati let’s take the

47:02 Quaker religion William Penn was the son of a British Admiral William Penn’s and

47:11 some of his close friends formed the Quaker religion in England they were

47:17 arrested they were basically not following the rules of the religious

47:23 tenants in England they were dissidents

47:28 so this is what happened the son of an

47:34 admiral which means in England at that

47:39 time around you know 16 2016 30 what

47:45 it was if you were an admiral in the Navy in England you were at the round

47:53 table with the movers and shakers you were in with the in crowd now

48:01 it’s interesting that William decides to rebel and become this peace-loving

48:08 god-fearing son of an animal becomes a

48:13 dissident starts a dissident community and out of nowhere the Illuminati King

48:20 of England because Henry the eighth Henry Tudor was the King that signed

48:28 England over to the Illuminati agenda after Henry the eighth all rulership in

48:39 England whether it’s a supposedly elected or royalty is always in lockstep

48:48 with the New World Order Illuminati plan so out of nowhere this Illuminati King

48:57 gives young William Penn Pennsylvania for free a land mass of virgin timber

49:06 and mineral deposits bigger than England

49:13 Scotland and Ireland combined just out of the goodness of his heart

49:20 well that’s what people are told let’s take a look at the statue of Billy Billy

49:27 Penn on top of City Hall in Philadelphia and let’s have the analysis of my

49:34 Amalekite mother tell tell us what’s

49:40 really going on here William Penn has in

49:45 his right hand a rolled-up scroll by Assad that rolled-up scroll

49:52 according to Freemasons means that you’re in possession of secret

49:59 knowledge that you know the inside story that’s number one number two

50:08 William Patton okay you were saying number two William Penn William Penn

50:15 after the scroll mm-hmm well the second thing is William Penn has in his left

50:22 hand bag my Amalekite which mother

50:27 Illuminati pedophile mass-murdering mother told me when I was being trained

50:34 in the true history of the world that that was a symbol for all the dark and

50:40 cultists to know that William Penn was a warlock all warlocks have a bag that’s

50:47 what she said to me right and in fact we Mounds

50:55 learned at the free your mind conference that the all of those buildings at the

51:03 center of Philadelphia including the Quaker meetinghouse were built on mounds on on sacred burial mounds going back

51:15 1,500 to 5,000 years of the Native American so we we learned that the

51:24 buildings at the center of Philadelphia the Capitol Pennsylvania and of the United States were built on mounds

51:33 ancient Native American burial mounds going back fifteen hundred to five

51:39 hundred years to five thousand years with intersecting ley lines and that

51:46 these so these founding fathers were mound graders were appropriating that sacred energy absolutely my mother told

51:54 me that the dark occultists were working with the energy that was give left to

52:04 them by the Indians that’s why they use a lot of Indian names for a lot of the

52:10 places that the they’re they’re absolutely 100% fully

52:18 skilled in the use of ley lines and geomancy to porters in the morphogenetic

52:27 field and that’s basically what keeps them in power because this holographic

52:36 creation that we’re in we are epigenetic beings and if you can manipulate the

52:44 base energy frequency you can basically control the thing and they totally know

52:54 all about what the man billers were doing and they use that energy now let’s Interdimensional ruse

53:02 look at some of the interdimensional rusev Eric or satanic or Exeter SEO

53:07 forces that the satanic illuminati you

53:13 know use the energy of or communicate with could you talk about that yeah I

53:22 was giving the the let’s say the standard Babylonian and Nagi history

53:30 that the Draco reptilians uh attack the

53:38 earth and basically took it over in eight minutes and that the rank-and-file

53:46 Illuminati dark Satanists were doing what they did to appease these dark

53:54 reptilian entities and they served the dark side and feed the negative energy

54:04 to these dark gods in order to keep humanity alive nothing could be further

54:10 from the truth but you need something to

54:16 hang your hat on to justify being a pedophile right so Cult leader Buzz

54:25 so uh have you witnessed ceremonies or

54:30 do you know about ceremonies in which are actually dark

54:40 interdimensional beings or extraterrestrials appear you know like the Moloch that they burn in symbol at

54:48 the Bohemian Grove etc yes uh the cult

54:54 leader when I was growing up in Orden was a man named buzz where he would be I

54:59 that art gallery and the Church of Andris the marquee of hell was in the

55:08 back of his art gallery buzz where supposedly was a reptilian shape shifter

55:15 and he could go back and forth between human and reptilian and I have memories

55:21 of being in the presence as a child of what would be considered your classic

55:30 Brown hooded and cloaked reptilian

55:36 wearing a brown hood and cloak and having the classic reptilian face I have

55:47 memories of that right now for example Power structure

55:52 in the annual Bohemian Grove ceremony where they burn the figure of Moloch and

56:01 they have a ritual a symbolic ritual human sacrifice that’s said to be

56:07 symbolic but as you pointed out they are up to eight hundred thousand children

56:13 that disappear and the power structure is there so are you told that the power

56:20 structure is satanic and Illuminati oh absolutely

56:26 one of the first things my father and mother got clear to me and my brothers

56:33 when we were growing up was the Illuminati control the

56:38 world and control the police there’s nowhere you can go for help and there

56:48 was a murder of a friend of mine who went septic his name was Brandon Plummer and in

56:56 orden 10% of the town is NaN colt so I went to a Christian family down the

57:02 street and told him that my friend had gone septic from being raped in a

57:10 satanic ritual and he was dead and the police should arrest my father and the

57:17 other people who are involved in this horrific murder and he went to the

57:24 police and the police told him oh we know what’s going on in Orden Delaware

57:30 but we can’t do anything about it and that man moved out of the country with

57:36 his family later the police in the 1930s tried to shut down the cult in Arden

57:44 Delaware three police were killed immediately and then the cult said to

57:51 the police do you want some more you have to understand that the oligarch

57:57 families that have trillions and billions of dollars have assassins at

58:05 their disposal and all the media can buy any number of people to say anything

58:13 about you that they need to in order to frame you or destroy your life there’s

58:20 really nothing the police can do they haven’t gone to the back of their head only if a large amount of them stood up

58:28 and said we’re not taking this anymore would would there actually be changed

58:33 that’s why the police and military in America are called

58:38 our dogs by the high-ranking Satanists they consider the military and the

58:46 police of this country to be dogs to be used as

58:52 animals now I just finished a book bot Luciferism

58:58 reading a book by Christopher story called the new underworld order in which

59:05 he states that luciferianism was the religion of the founding fathers and

59:12 that when the Great Seal of verse side of the Great Sea the United States was

59:17 put on the dollar bill it says In God We Trust that the God referred to there is

59:25 Lucifer is that correct I know that uh Franklin was uh in most likelihood a

59:33 dark occultist or at least an initiate because my mother would when my parents

59:39 would hear a name of someone either in

59:44 history or a modern-day politician or entertainer like Bob Hope or senator

59:51 Byrd from West Virginia or gosh any

59:57 number of people uh if you were cold and

1:00:03 they were discussing you or heard your name mentioned on the TV or read an

1:00:09 article about you they kind of get a certain hey he’s on our team and a

1:00:14 manifestation glow about them an energy shift and all like all I can say is that

1:00:24 many of the people that you see on TV are dark occultists and yet I’m talking

1:00:31 politicians here but some of them actually are just also uh what would you

1:00:39 call a compromise the slaves that their

1:00:45 blackmail to obey but we were always

1:00:51 told growing up that the gray the setter

1:00:56 Reticuli tray and the reptilians are actually from a different dimension than

1:01:02 ours which is want another right and they are they work with the darker cultists and with

1:01:10 the New World Order is that it oh absolutely it’s one big happy family what people

1:01:16 don’t understand though is uh the reptilians are the surahs objects aren’t

1:01:23 are the Arcana force in the goddess mythology and the archons mean to

1:01:30 eliminate humanity so humanity either grows up and starts manifesting a

1:01:40 different positive consciousness and throws off these corrupt people or it’s

1:01:48 basically headed straight for a a graveyard now I know that during the –

1:01:57 Bush’s White House Bush jr. and Bush Senior there was tremendous stories of

1:02:03 pedophilia going on satanic pedophilia going on in the White House have you

1:02:10 heard now during the george bush’s

1:02:15 administration bush boot George HW Bush and Bush George W Bush we had a great

1:02:24 deal about a satanic pedophilia going on in the White House under both bushes

1:02:30 uh have you had anything about satanic

1:02:37 illuminati influences in the Obama White House uh no I am uh now that I’m

1:02:53 deprogrammed I don’t run in the circles of the Illuminati that I used to and I

1:03:01 was programmed to be a slave because after I tried to get certain occultus

1:03:07 arrested when I was six years old they decided that my consciousness would

1:03:13 never go to the dark side and a electroshock my brain

1:03:18 the point where I didn’t know my name and then put me through a crash monarch

1:03:25 slate program but when I worked in

1:03:32 Philadelphia I would say half the people I work for were involved as far as being

1:03:40 Illuminati and those business people would use certain monarch hand signals

1:03:47 to get me to work for them for peanuts and all I can say is my mother always

1:03:54 regretted living in Arden because there were just so many more

1:03:59 occult people in Philadelphia there’s quite a few in Philadelphia okay now up

1:04:08 we’re coming to the end of this segment but what are some of the solutions for

1:04:16 for the planet for those of us that are on this planet that are oriented toward

1:04:22 the light and that really want to have a life light oriented planet what are some

1:04:29 of the solutions how can we rid ourselves of this iconic infestation

1:04:38 well the the dark occult Satanists that

1:04:45 practice mind control in pedophilia for the elite the thirty million that do

1:04:50 that in this country were told for generations that they were going to get

1:04:55 a big payoff when the New World Order came into fruition but if you do any

1:05:04 studying you will know that the third ammonia dark pedofile the cold Satanists

1:05:11 in this country are being thrown under the bus along with the rest of humanity

1:05:16 and the only the top of the elite will

1:05:22 be allowed to live past the what I call the hammer dropping as far as solutions

1:05:31 we are in a energetic matrix and this matrix has a base energy which comes

1:05:39 from what is known as the goddess sofia

1:05:45 or sofia and that that base energy is a

1:05:52 nurturing and loving energy that is why the dark occultists have seized our

1:05:58 education religious faculties on this

1:06:04 planet and changed nurturing of

1:06:10 spirituality in the classical world to a father god that wants to throw you

1:06:16 literally in a pit of fire forever uh that’s why John Watson’s book not his

1:06:23 image is very important to read how we get out of this is by changing our

1:06:29 attitudes and energy and it’s going to take some people who are right brain in

1:06:37 balance and who are doormats standing up and it’s going to take some people who

1:06:44 are dominators and left brain imbalanced sitting down and chilling out I

1:06:52 recommend EFT to every person on the planet so that they can reprogram their

1:07:00 subconscious this GRE what what is the FT EFT is emotional freedom technique

1:07:07 it’s one of the acupressure psychological healing modalities that’s

1:07:16 come around in the last twenty years you can change aspects of your

1:07:24 subconscious which ones 95 plus percent of your life by using EFT you can go

1:07:31 online and look up EFT emotional freedom technique you can research psyche which

1:07:38 is another heat psychological subconscious reprogramming

1:07:44 modality this is the most important message we have to get to humanity is

1:07:50 that the subconscious runs 95% or more

1:07:57 of your adult life and you did not program that into yourself no one in the

1:08:05 first six years of their life differentiates anything while you’re in

1:08:11 a hypnagogic trance so if you’re raised Catholic you’re going to be mind control

1:08:18 to be a Catholic if you’re raised to Satanists of course with the torture and

1:08:23 drugging and mind control you’ll be a Satanist but you can take back uh your

1:08:31 mind and your heart by using EFT and I’ve used that to deconstruct the mind

1:08:40 control programming that I was under and as far as the Bohemian Grove goes I’m

1:08:46 absolutely sure that while they’re mock human sacrificing someone is getting

1:08:54 killed at the exact same time the bloodlust of the elite is just

1:09:01 insatiable once you have a trillion dollars Alfred there’s a really nothing

1:09:08 more fun than to kill children a billionaire in Australia who is part of

1:09:15 the free Masonic Illuminati there I told a story on his deathbed about a circle

1:09:25 of people that would gather around this was a ritual that was done quite a bit we got around a woman who would give

1:09:34 birth to a brand-new baby that we cut the umbilical cord lay the baby on the

1:09:42 floor and the people in the circle would take turns kicking the baby to death and

1:09:49 that was you know little fun

1:09:57 and those are the people who are ruling you those are the people you see on TV smiling at you

1:10:03 by using EFT you can change your consciousness whether your cult or not

1:10:10 cold and you can raise your conscious vibration another thing we need to do is

1:10:17 to use orgonite to fight off some of the cell tower EMF radiation and orgonite

1:10:27 helps the life force energy of four gang that will hem right discovered it brings

1:10:36 it up in focuses it and we need to spread a lot of organize around now if

1:10:43 people want to follow your work or be in contact with you what’s the best way

1:10:49 they can do that well I would say just

1:10:57 go online into a search you can I have two presentations maybe three presentations on the free your mind

1:11:03 comprehensible they’ll be on the web I’m going to do more interviews and talk

1:11:09 more about basically what people need to do to heal I mean Bruce Lipton I’ve got

1:11:20 some really great material out there Kevin Trudeau has some really

1:11:25 spectacular information I spent 14 years

1:11:31 since I became aware of my satanic ritual abuse studying psychology

1:11:37 philosophy history so if you see my free your mind conference

1:11:43 video from 2011 and you can find that at free your mind conference calm and just

1:11:53 click on the 2011 conference you can see my hour-long presentation and that will

1:11:59 give you a lot of books to read and videos to see and you can start becoming

1:12:07 an aware human being well J we want to thank you for taking this time

1:12:14 with us today I know that we were we’ve touched on many many different topics of

1:12:22 importance and we look forward to seeing

1:12:29 more and more of your work emerge well

1:12:35 thank you offered and all I have to say is the world has many high concentration

1:12:43 pockets of dark occultists they like to live around each other near the ley

1:12:49 lines so that when they do their rituals they can pour that energy into the

1:12:56 Earth’s geomantic red and that’s why we need to hit the grid with war tonight

1:13:02 very good uh could you I know we we keep

1:13:07 on opening up issues but this is so new could you identify some of the main

1:13:13 locations of ley lines and Illuminati Satanists in in the US for example well

1:13:21 I know the Philadelphia region and where my family went when I was a kid and of

1:13:29 course Arden is one place Riverton New Jersey is another high concentration

1:13:36 locale as far as I know Medford lakes New Jersey is a high concentration of

1:13:44 course Rose Valley another Marquis of Hell Enclave the Art Museum in

1:13:54 Philadelphia is along what’s known as the Arcadian ley line the Arcadian ley

1:14:01 line goes from Europe all the way through the heart of Boston New York

1:14:09 Philadelphia Washington D City you can

1:14:14 look up the Arcadian layline on the web there are many good books about the ley

1:14:21 lines my mother told me as far as Illuminati concentration that they like

1:14:29 when they found a community they’d like to end the name of the community in T o

1:14:37 n not town but ton Washington Washington

1:14:46 Boston Boston yes amazing but uh Trenton

1:14:59 Trenton sure now I’m just saying that

1:15:04 that doesn’t mean it’s just like most religions and most charitable

1:15:09 organizations it doesn’t mean everyone there is going to be dark and cold it’s just a little

1:15:17 hi there so that if you’re you know in

1:15:23 the 10% thats dark occultist you you would know that there will be blood to

1:15:28 line families there if you were to move there right right i I just want to say that studying the

1:15:37 ley lines and using orgonite is something you could really do to help free humanity there is a website called

1:15:46 etheric warriors calm and you can learn how to do several organizer voices that

1:15:54 can be used to help free humanity from this energetic prison that we’re in very

1:16:03 good very good uh finally could I ask you to turn on your camera just to see if if we can do

1:16:12 that without the interference that we’ve been experiencing all right I’ll try one

1:16:18 more time good oh yeah so so this way

1:16:26 you can say a greeting to our to our audience we we want to apologize to our

1:16:35 audience we we weren’t able to have a Jay Parker on full-time because every

1:16:43 time that that we would get Sun on a topic we would be cut off and so it

1:16:52 seems that we’re we’re we’re touching on subjects so do you think that this

1:16:58 planet will ever be flipped out of this is the satanic column into the column of

1:17:03 light absolutely uh twenty years ago the

1:17:09 Sun was an orange-yellow Sun now it’s a white Sun that literally fills the sky

1:17:17 if the frequency of the Sun changes and

1:17:23 it has changed because it’s gone from yellow to white the Sun represents 99

1:17:32 percent of the mass of our holographic solar system that energy mass has

1:17:41 changed frequency they may spray chemtrails out the wazoo they’re not going to be

1:17:49 able to stop that new frequency from having effect on the planet earth and

1:17:57 it’s only a matter of time before the victims of the Illuminati start talking

1:18:05 amongst each other and rise up to heal this planet well on that note I want to

1:18:15 thank you again and for coming on and

1:18:21 for enlightening us all in this area that’s not very well known we’ve been

1:18:27 with Jay Parker who was born into a multi-generational satanic illuminati

1:18:34 family and who is now revealing a specialized holistic approach for

1:18:41 satanic ritual abuse healing Thank You Jay thank you laughing

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Ann Diamond Emma Interview Transcript

Ann Diamond interviewed by Emma

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good heavenly father today we put on the full  armor to protect us against attack we put on  

0:08the belt of Truth to protect against lies  and deception we put on the breastplate of   righteousness to protect our hearts from The  Temptations we put the gospel of peace on our  

0:18feet to walk in your light Peace and Freedom with  the Holy Spirit we rebuke anxious thoughts we take  

0:24up your Shield of faith for protection to block  and destroy all the darts and threats thrown at  

0:30us by the enemy we put on the helmet of salvation  to cover our minds and thoughts reminding us that  

0:35we are children of a mighty king we are forgiven  set free saved by the blood of Jesus we take up  

0:42the sword of the spirit your living word that has  the power to demolish strongholds in a sharper  

0:47than any double-edged sword we come to you Lord  in prayer daily and Jesus mighty name we pray amen  

0:54what’s up you guys welcome to the imagination  I’m your host Emma and this week I’m honored to  

1:00introduce to you someone that I was introduced  to recently through independent investigative  

1:05reporter and journalist Kathy Fox and someone  who has undoubtedly had a tremendous impact on  

1:12my own Journey learning about the hard truths  of the world introducing MK Ultra Survivor and  

1:17whistleblower blogger author writer educator  and selfless Advocate and Diamond an original  

1:24whistleblower of our time and was one of the first  to publicly whistleblow MK Ultra and has since  

1:29given a voice to countless victims encouraged  to countless survivors of government-sanctioned  

1:35abuse of all kinds and Story begins in the 1950s  in Canada where she was sold into the MK Ultra  

1:42projects as a child to prolific MKUltra programmer  Dr Donald Ewan Cameron of McGill University in  

1:50Anne’s words quote the story of MKUltra in Canada  has never been properly told it was a pan-canadian  

1:57phenomenon not limited to Montreal and Dr Cameron  in the early 60s much of what had been a McGill  

2:04University program was gradually transferred to  Toronto specifically to York University in an  

2:11emerging Counter Culture scene that became  a breeding ground for me for many Fabian   and Tavistock influence movements and programs  Saskatchewan was another Center for Mk Ultra mind  

2:21control about which very little has been written  unfortunately Canada’s publishing industry is  

2:27very much a product of that covert expansion of  MKUltra throughout Canada books like Ann Collins  

2:32the Sleep room presented a partial account but  failed to get at the roots in British Eugenics  

2:38and Nazi Psychiatry or hint at the vastness  of this program which was secretly promoted  

2:44at the highest levels of our establishment  unquote in this episode this week you guys  

2:49will hear Anne’s amazing testimony surrounding  MKUltra and her involvement in Project monarch   deep dives into some notable and suspicious  connections she had in her life including  

2:59Canadian singer songwriter poet and novelist  Leonard Cohen as well as some recent updates  

3:05and information from her personal life Anne’s  voice has been a crucial part of why podcasts like  

3:10mine are able to exist to begin with and I want to  give a special thank you to Ann for her courage to  

3:16continue forward after all these years so the  children of tomorrow can have a better future   than the children of the past and of today we are  so grateful for the work you’ve done to pave the  

3:25way to where we are today and so you guys without  further Ado please help me in welcoming walking  

3:30Miracle whistleblower Overcomer and all-around  inspiration the one the only and diamond and  

3:37thank you so much for being here with me today wow  I’m flabbergasted I almost finished it was great

3:46I love writing the intros it’s so nice  to finally meet you like I said you had  

3:55such a big impact on me when I was waking up  from my Slumber with you know learning about  

4:00the world and it’s such an honor to finally  have you on and I know a lot of people that  

4:06listen they might be a little bit newer  to your story and that’s that’s awesome   because we’re gonna dive into it today but I  wanted to say how how awesome is it now that  

4:17people are finally interested in this for  you I mean I can’t imagine what it was like   in the early 2000s trying to talk about this  you know it that has to feel so good for you  

4:26yeah I think something’s changed for sure  certainly nobody was asking me to do podcasts  

4:32or and I couldn’t even get anyone to read my book  you know and you know and the other another thing  

4:39I remember about that time was that when I  started when I would talk about it to people   who were you know who said what are you writing  about and what what is this story I would uh Shake  

4:50it was so um so it was so intense to me that  my voice would change and I I’d start to just  

4:58kind of shake you know vibrate and um I thought  you know I’m not really I don’t think I’m ready  

5:04for it you know to go out of the house for this  because it’s so intense and also when you have  

5:11the feeling that nobody knows what you’re talking  about and therefore nobody will believe you it  

5:16just adds another layer to the you know some of it  is just is just going through trauma it’s reliving  

5:22trauma as you remember and try to talk about it  and some of it is knowing that there’s nobody  

5:28you know no one will understand except other  survivors who who were out there at that time   I was not the first one or anything I had people  like Carol rutz you know and and uh Kathy O’Brien  

5:40of course sent out so many Lynn Sharman you  know in in Ontario and so yeah yeah but it has  

5:49it has really broadened now and it seems to be  something you can actually talk about voice yes

5:59sorry yeah I said and you have people like you who  are writing blogs and books and people like Kathy  

6:04O’Brien who have a film and I think one person at  a time just over the years it’s getting out there  

6:10to more and more people and they’re finding you  more easy you know and I gosh back in the early  

6:152000s trying to figure out you know where other  survivors are I mean that had to have been a whole   different world it’s hard now to research stuff  and we have everything at our disposal that had  

6:25to have been just a really neat process for you  over the years to just see the difference now  

6:30versus how it was then yeah I hope that’s true  because I know that when I started and it was in  

6:372003 really that I really started and I would read  for like 10 12 hours a day sometimes because there  

6:44was a lot on the internet but it was It was kind  of you could find whole documents you could find  

6:51um conference papers uh you know transcripts  from all kinds of stuff was there I’m not sure  

7:00some of that hasn’t been taken down now because  I don’t right now I don’t go back I don’t go back   and review at all I mean I I took it all in at the  time but I hope that what I hope it’s true I mean  

7:12I think it it has become more General I hope  they’re not deleting and erasing the evidence  

7:19that’s something that everyone worries about you  know absolutely yes but that’s why voices like  

7:26yours is so important because you are the evidence  you know and you have that information within you  

7:31within your mind and in your heart that you can  express to people and they don’t need articles   now you know and I love that yeah maybe that’s  true and so let’s get into your story a little  

7:43bit let’s maybe start either you could start at  the beginning or wherever you want but I’d love   to paint the picture for people your testimony is  incredible and like I said you’ve been speaking  

7:52out about it um for decades now so I’d love for  you to share with people who might be newer um  

7:58and we can start wherever you want and just kind  of flow through and I’ll give you space to talk   okay and you and feel free to interrupt me because  I can go on and on okay I’m sure I’ll have some  

8:09questions it’s much harder to write a whole book  than it is easier to write a book than it is to  

8:15write a little blurb in many ways you know so  you just didn’t feel free to interrupt because   but I guess I would start just by saying that  that I was born in Montreal Canada province of  

8:28Quebec uh French Canadian Catholic um province  of Canada with it with a lot of control by the  

8:37Vatican the Catholic Church on the population  here and I had an English Canadian Scottish  

8:43Canadian father and a French Canadian mother my  father was Protestant and spoke only English my  

8:49mother was French French Canadian was Catholic and  spoke French and English because anyway that’s how  

8:57it was then so I grew up with a twin brother in  Montreal during the Cold War born in 1951 and  

9:04it happened to be the same year that the first  uh Conference was held in Montreal at the Ritz  

9:13Carlton Hotel that brought together the basically  the troops the the big players who would go on to  

9:22be the to start the mkl tour program and that was  in August I think 1951. so you and Cameron was  

9:31there but Alan Dulles and all you know CIA head of  the CIA and all kinds of military people people in  

9:38um Information Technology at the time uh  medicine Psychiatry and they just brought  

9:45together all these experts cybernetics was I  think starting then too you know so they had and  

9:52um and they and they put them in this hotel and  had a conference and they basically planned the  

9:59cold well the post-war period of the Cold War had  already started and how they were going to use new  

10:06forms new kinds of weapons involving human beings  like human um what is it just the human mind would  

10:16become the new Battlefield that’s what they the  kind of thing they were talking about at that   time and uh so they chose I believe they chose  Quebec because it was isolated very fascistic very  

10:29controlled from the top down very obedient people  very religious and with and also because there was  

10:36a huge population of babies born after the war uh  two unwed mothers because the soldiers coming and  

10:44going during the war so they had everything  they needed to start a project here and I uh  

10:53since I was born that same year it took  a it took another few years but by 1955  

10:59basically my father had agreed to put my twin  brother and me in the uh project at McGill which  

11:07was running with the famous notorious Dr Cameron  at the head of it and he was directly in you know  

11:14working with Alan Dulles you know in Washington  and and the uh and you’ve heard of Sid Gotti you  

11:21know they had started the in 53 they started  the mkl2 program and the other thing that was  

11:27hap that had happened in Quebec in 1953 was  the there were hundreds of thousands a hundred  

11:32thousand duplessly orphans they called them  the orphans that were born to unwed mothers  

11:37who were who had been put in orphanages  after the war because you couldn’t be a   single mother easily or at all in those days and  so they had a population of disposable children  

11:49so it was a great place to bring together a  secret enormous secret project and and that’s  

11:59um you know most people living here have  never heard of any of this many people  

12:05even now don’t know that this happened they  don’t know what they were that you know many  

12:11people had relatives who were part of it and  they they are really still living in a state of   ignorance about it so I’m a product I was a child  who was chosen for the program a more privileged  

12:24than the orphans because I had my mother and  a father and I I was home living at home and  

12:30and also my father was a professional he was a  music teacher in high school so it gave him gave  

12:36us a little more status than some people so I was  put into a program at McGill with gifted children  

12:44supposedly yeah I had a high IQ my brother also  and my brother was very Musical and um and so  

12:51we were placed in this special program and my  parents believing that they were but this was  

12:58something wonderful that had been offered to us  because we were very lucky and and special and so  

13:03they didn’t catch on for a long time and so your  parents you didn’t you weren’t in a generational  

13:10family in the sense that your parents had gone  through this they they were basically coerced into  

13:16thinking you were a gifted child and that they  were going to to pay basically for a great future  

13:22for you you’d get special education and you know  be around kids like you and it wasn’t like that  

13:30exactly that’s the difference I think if you have  you’ve had other survivors on who were definitely  

13:35they came out of generational they even say  generational satanic Bloodlines to I don’t  

13:40think so I mean it’s very it’s hard to find these  things out but I have no uh none of those kinds of  

13:47memories about my parents and I have been told my  parents were just basically decent people who go  

13:53who were who were tricked or a coerced there was  some black male involved because of my father’s  

14:00military background and there was something  going on he was an Air Force intelligence and  

14:05I think pressure was a lot of pressure was put  on him so it it was more yeah I think I think my  

14:12family are different from some of the other it’s  making me different from some of the others if I   was maybe two um I’m not sure how you know maybe  more maybe I’m more naive you know and less aware  

14:24of certain things or I don’t know or maybe I was  spared some of the stuff that they went through  

14:31I feel I witnessed some pretty horrific things  but I’m I don’t that’s all I know I I have amnesia  

14:38walls too and I admit that I I still have them  but I’m I’m working with it you know so instead of  

14:47good is that a good place to start yeah that’s I  appreciate that I think you know everybody’s story  

14:53is so different and I think the commonalities are  what help make people understand that oh my gosh  

14:59how how is Anne’s you know experience so similar  to Kathy O’Brien’s which is so similar to this  

15:05person over in the UK and then this person over in  Ireland you know the commonalities validate it but  

15:12it happens so many different ways that it’s very  hard to almost you know comprehend and so I love  

15:18the differences and being able to talk about that  too because it helps people in real life you know  

15:24have empathy for people and to always think what  could this person in front of me have possibly   gone through you know because this could be  anybody it doesn’t have to be a generational  

15:32family it could be a great family who’s trying  to do something good for their children you know  

15:37just normal family didn’t have any of this in the  background and they make you know a big mistake  

15:42and don’t realize it you know maybe ever and so  I I love you know your story brings awareness  

15:48to the other side of it which I think parents that  that say why I’m not generational that could never  

15:53happen to me or my kids and it’s like no this can  happen to anybody anybody yeah I I totally agree  

16:01with you and understanding all the different yeah  the different circumstances that we’re operating   and how that I don’t know I guess how that also  helps people how it helps keep it secret because  

16:12people don’t talk you’re not part of the you know  the same middle years sometimes they’re living  

16:18different realities man I just thought of myself  I thought of myself as having an idyllic childhood  

16:24that’s I had a problem I wanted to when I got  older I wanted to be writing fiction you know  

16:30and they always and they say well you have to  be able to remember your childhood to write   your first novel and I didn’t all I remembered  were these lovely scenes you know in the country  

16:39swimming on the beach with my cousins boating  you know hot dogs you know a hot dog hamburger  

16:46roasts and playing hide and seek and those are my  memories they were so Bland but behind that those  

16:53were behind us memories which were real there was  a whole thing going on you know I was being taken  

17:00out of school in in first and second grade I was  being taken downtown I was in the mental hospital  

17:07um you know this is what I figured my school  records show that I was absent half the year  

17:12and suppose they had all these illnesses but I  had a few I had mom’s measles and so on but that  

17:18doesn’t account for 100 days missing exactly  100 days on my report card and later in life  

17:25I met people who remembered me from McGill as  you know as they said I knew Miguel I said I  

17:31never went to Miguel I didn’t go to Miguel but  I was a kid at a hospital that was owned and  

17:39operated by McGill University and which was  recruiting you know kids for this for this  

17:44military program so they remembered me sometimes  and I would just you know I was too little  

17:51to to Really form memories I think for the older  older kids they they had like a social existence  

18:00too and they also had you know stronger brains  basically more developed brains so as a child  

18:05that they would they would give the little  kids LSD and it would just swipe them out they   wouldn’t have any memory of having been through an  experiment you know or a party with a lot of weird  

18:18sadistic stuff going on you know and that kind  of stuff it’s come back to me in different ways  

18:24so let’s let’s dive into that a little bit  I know around age three and a half four  

18:30um was when you were allegedly diagnosed with  pneumonia and I know that that was one of your  

18:36earlier memories of this let’s maybe talk  about like how what you experienced going  

18:41into this this program versus what they  told your parents you’d be participating in  

18:48right well I think that was just a pneumonia I  think I actually had pneumonia or I had a very   severe cold and it was freezing it was January in  Montreal and what I I have a very vivid memory and  

18:59I’ve had it all my life of of being taken in a on  a stretcher out of the apartment building down the  

19:06walk and into a waiting ambulance and everything  you know drifts the snow drifts and everything’s  

19:11frozen and they put me in the ambulance and they  closed the door and once I’m in the ambulance I’m  

19:17looking up at the attendant and he puts a mask  over my face and it stinks it stinks of ether  

19:24I mean I know the smell of ether I was three  and a half it was not oxygen so I pulled it off  

19:31and he was not an Iceman at all he gave me a you  know and he just forced it onto my face again I  

19:37have an absolutely clear memory of that you know  that I’ve always had and um next thing I know I  

19:42woke up in a award I and I think I was strapped  to the bed and there were other children around  

19:49but then it’s very vague it’s very and I have and  then I have a kind of a memory of my of my mother  

19:55coming to see me and um being very nervous and  very frightened and I have all the other memory I  

20:02have is I pooed in the bed at some point so there  was this you know black turd lying beside me on  

20:08this on the white sheet when I woke up and I went  oh no and a nurse came and she was you know she  

20:15wasn’t very happy and she but I have I’ve always  had that memory that’s um but my mother came and  

20:21wanted to know what was happening and they told  her some of this is me being told later they told  

20:28her that I had almost died and therefore she  couldn’t see me she couldn’t take me home and   that’s why I didn’t recognize her but um what I’ve  learned since or what I what I believe because  

20:40I’ve seen a file an emptied file nevertheless  my Psychiatry file from 1955 to my conscious  

20:48knowledge in life I’ve never seen a psychiatrist  and no one ever said we send you to it we sent  

20:53you to a psychiatrist when you were four years old  you had you know you were saying never I have no  

20:59it’s blank completely gone but I had apparently  a file that was quite thick I could tell by the  

21:05folder 1955 four years old and this had to be  Dr Cameron’s LSD experiments at McGill because  

21:16there was no children’s Ward there it was an  illegal secret project there should not have  

21:22been any children at all in that hospital there  was a children’s hospital for children and I  

21:27was told that you you know you cannot have  a file here from 1955 because there were no   children here but then they found the file  said Psychiatry you see so there’s is it’s  

21:37been this it’s a convoluted process for me  of finding out my parents I think always just  

21:43I I think they they had suspicions doubts  fears that the psychiatrists then worked at  

21:49calming and coming up with explanations for  so they were always had you know a carrot  

21:56you know carrot and stick kind of situation  that there’s something coming for your daughter  

22:02there’s something good that’s going to happen  so just you know just trust us basically and  

22:08they would make up explanations and so into  things so just so if that gives an idea I mean  

22:14um my my mother had to know that I was  seeing psychiatrists but she was probably   I’m guessing now she’s been dead for 30  what 40 years so I could never ask her but  

22:26um it must have been just a pace of trusting  the doctors and if they said don’t tell your   daughter because that that will ruin the program  you know what we’re doing for her then she would  

22:36have gone along she wouldn’t have you know  she would have obeyed their instructions  

22:42so I I grew up in a yeah I I was half in half out  of school with living a double life as far as I  

22:50can tell and making friends downtown that I met  you know down at McGill who I met like when I was  

22:55in my 20s then they came up again they had you  know they were and even recognized me sometimes  

23:03oh my gosh that had been wild for you it’s  a whole it’s a whole situation I don’t know  

23:09whether this exists it probably did exist in other  situations in other cities but it seems like it  

23:15was an engineered program in Montreal and a lot  of it had to do with the Arts entertainment music  

23:24and creating this a population of uh  creators and media people who would  

23:31then be part of the future you know program  basically brainwashing the population through  

23:40a core population that that they  started with in when they were children  

23:48that sort of make sense though doesn’t it yeah  and it sounds like a testing ground almost yeah  

23:55and then people were chosen for their own  you know the crew I mean I found it very   easy in the beginning in my 20s to just get  things published and be just find you know  

24:08I was I was being encouraged rather than most  people are discouraged from doing those kinds   of things but I was getting encouraged I was I  was getting encouragement I was getting people  

24:17mentoring me I had people coming along it all  just seemed so natural magical normal in a way  

24:24but coincidental too and now I see well you know  there was much more to the there were other people  

24:31you know also having the same things happen they  had been chosen basically talk a little bit about  

24:38Dr Cameron and McGill University um and the  programs that they were running because I  

24:44I think to Canada like you said it doesn’t get  you know recognized as much as maybe the United  

24:50States or some other hot spots for this but this  was a really big deal what they were doing and I   know that they weren’t the only school but I know  that you know Dr Cameron he was you know kind of  

25:00a big deal back then in these programs and he’s a  name probably a lot of people have never heard of  

25:05I’d love for you to to just give some context  to that and you know what were they working   on and what was their goal there and you know  what do you remember from the program right um

25:18um what I remember of the program is a kind of  a patchwork of things I don’t maybe I’ll get  

25:23to after but um Dr Cameron was a scottish-born  American psychiatrist he trained in Switzerland  

25:32and then he uh came to Canada ran a program at  a hospital and then he went to Massachusetts  

25:38too and then he um and then I think then he came  to Montreal but he always had contacts in Albany  

25:45New York right so he um that’s where he right  after the war met with Alan Dulles the CIA OSS  

25:58hand at the time who who uh hired him to go to  Nuremberg to the trials of the uh of Nazi war  

26:08criminals right and there was one in particular  Rudolf Hess who had who’s a Defector and then  

26:14people may know the story they may not but  Hess had uh Hess had been very close to Hitler  

26:19and been very high up in the Nazi in the SS and  then he just defected and he flew to England so  

26:25they’d had him in Spandau no Spandau was Germany I  guess but they had him in a prison in Scotland for  

26:34um you know for the rest of the after  I don’t know a couple of years during   the war and then in 45 they brought  him back to Germany to try him for  

26:41war crimes but they wanted because  he was a Defector and possibly a spy  

26:47you know working with um who knows could have  been working for British intelligence too or  

26:53he’d be working with the Nazis then they didn’t  know they probably knew but they they wanted to  

26:58make sure he made the right impression at the  trial so they got two psychiatrists from um New  

27:04York well and one of them was Dr Cameron Dr you  and Cameron at the time and the other one was uh  

27:10Nolan Lewis Dr Nolan D.C Lewis and he was he was  head of the New York Institute of Psychiatry and  

27:18they got these two guys and they sent them over to  to um Nuremberg in Germany and had them interview  

27:25has but now what people say is it’s like when  they brainwashed him they wiped his memory  

27:33so that when he was on trial and he was confronted  with people he’d worked with in the U in the SS he  

27:40didn’t recognize them he didn’t know his former  colleagues he just didn’t know them his mind  

27:45but they they had to CL his mind was in many  ways gone I mean he his memory was gone they  

27:51had selectively deleted memories which they  were able to do then and um and so yeah so he  

28:01he I guess he didn’t incriminate himself or  you know he said what they wanted him to say  

28:06so that’s how the trial played out and then they  uh that was a big success but they had those  

28:12methods already you know they knew how to do very  sophisticated uh brainwashing selective memories  

28:23because some of his memories were still intact  so right and so then Cameron came back to uh  

28:32by that point he was the head of the Allen  Memorial Institute of Montreal which had   been set up in 1943 and he started using these  techniques on patients at the Allen Memorial so  

28:43the Montreal experiments that started around 19  you know 43 44 and they were really tied in with  

28:51um nasty Germany techniques they were using in  the concentration camp some people trauma-based  

28:57mind control right on concentration camp prisoners  and children mangle this Clinic you know he used  

29:05to brainwash children using trauma so Carmen had  learned out he had all those files that they’d  

29:11gotten from the Nazis and he started deploying  that uh those techniques in Montreal on people  

29:18just old ladies and young people and all kinds  of people who went in there with with problems or  

29:25people who weren’t getting on with their families  or whatever and their family sent them to to get   treated so that’s where that’s where a lot of  this um a lot of this began he got a lot of  

29:36experience from from just having access to people  to innocent you know Canadians it’s that’s that’s  

29:45how that that’s Dr Cameron they call it the worst  the biggest the largest the worst uh you know uh  

29:54uh human experimentation program that has ever  existed anywhere ever been done on any population  

30:01the largest in history you know it’s so if people  haven’t heard of it it’s not because it’s not for  

30:06lack of you know trying or anything I mean it  really but it’s probably because there is always  

30:12um yeah there’s Canada is always kind  of kept in a it’s sort of in a separate  

30:18place a separate category separate  population and I think that’s also why  

30:25um they chose Montreal because it was isolated  and no one would you know no one would think  

30:31things like that could go on here and so it’s  been kept a secret for Generations that’s  

30:39so you can see why people don’t want  to believe it because it does it sounds  

30:44crazy you know and I think one of the  things to you over generations of time  

30:49our own Divinity in the supernatural abilities  that we are given at Birth are hidden from us you  

30:57know we’re taught a very cut and dry curriculum  of you have five senses you know uh telepathy is  

31:05fake and all of these things are fake and this is  just what a human is it’s a it’s a you’re a lame  

31:10thing you know and you’re gonna be depressed  your whole life we’re gonna work you we’re   going to stress you out and so like we lose that  within ourselves and that’s the thing that to me  

31:18is really important to learn about these programs  is there’s people that know how sophisticated our  

31:24software is as a human and what we are god-given  born ability is that we were born with and they’re  

31:30exploiting them while hiding it from the public  you know and they’re using children especially   they’re so vulnerable and open to all the magic  in the world you know and and they’re being  

31:39exploited for it you know and so I think that  this is it’s important I think this conversation  

31:47it’s really sad to think about what is being  done and how they’re exploiting on the other  

31:52hand learning about it empowers us to say gosh  we’re amazing humans are incredible what we’re  

32:00capable of overcoming what our bodies are capable  of doing how pliable we are like just because  

32:05we have trauma inside doesn’t mean that we can’t  heal we can heal miraculously if we learn how our  

32:11brains are wired and how our bodies work how they  work together and that’s the thing I think your  

32:17story paints a lot of is how you know the gifted  and talented program and showing how these gifts  

32:23are specifically sought out and exploited and then  they’re not told to people that aren’t in them  

32:31that’s so so true and you put that so well yeah  and that’s absolutely I think that’s maybe the the  

32:41the deepest truth we can pull out of this  experience is that or out of this history  

32:48um is exactly what you’ve said it’s that um  the and and it’s it’s exemplified by this  

32:53gifted Children’s Program they chose kids  um some of them they were chosen because   they were psychic had sidekick abilities  and they which they you know tested for I  

33:02mean the scientists knew what they were  testing for and uh ESP was a big thing  

33:08that they uh they were interested in  because they were looking for remote viewing   abilities you know to use for the military but all  of it of course like you say it was all they they  

33:17chose those kids and they had a military they had  a really kind of crass military um uh uh agenda  

33:27behind it but the what the children had were  god-given gifts that Society the churches were in  

33:35the process of repressing too so you know have you  been told I mean I’m a Christian I’m sure you are  

33:42too but you know I’ve been told by many Christians  that to explore those kinds of things is satanic  

33:50and uh you must never and as a result  I think I’ve I know I’ve listened to  

33:55that and I’ve been very careful and I’ve kept  you know I but but at the same time I think I  

34:00think there’s something there’s some truth in  what they say you can be swept away by forces  

34:06you don’t understand there are spiritual forces  out there they’re very dark possibly forces but  

34:14and that’s what Satan is all about and that’s why  people join Cults I guess but they also join Cults  

34:21because they want to expand their you know just  kind of expand as children of light too so you  

34:26have this whole dichotomy that they play with all  the time and they manipulate us and they try to   terrorize us and people separating into groups  saying oh you know bad over there those people  

34:36are bad and you know I I’ve had quite a bit of  it too yeah well I’m sure yeah or just this is  

34:44fake and this is a conspiracy and it’s like again  people have to dive into these things and explore  

34:50them but to just outright deny that these things  exist we have no idea as a society how to defend  

34:56ourselves against any Warfare that comes against  us or how to see it when it’s right in front of us   or how to even understand you know a crime as big  as human trafficking happening all over the world  

35:06and MK Ultra you know because they’ve shut all  that off and just thrown it off to the side and  

35:12they’ve ripped it from education and you know it’s  I think it’s really important like I said just  

35:18understanding what they were looking for and what  they know exists helps us understand how amazing  

35:25we are as humans and how how powerful we can be if  we all come together the same way that they have  

35:32yeah and take back the control and that was  you know I guess the the results of science I   mean well observation you know if you live in the  world long enough and you want in your involvement  

35:41enough uh crazy stuff like a war for example you  will you will see those abilities coming out of  

35:48people and those and those could pass you know  the capacity to that you will learn those things   as a soldier probably very likely I haven’t been  a soldier but that’s why the Air Force was just  

35:59you know the Air Force was very involved in this  research Eros you know going into Aerospace after  

36:07the war um getting children for Aerospace because  sitting up uh uh psychic children who for a  

36:16distant early Warning Systems there were children  taken up north in Canada children taken off  

36:23um Native reservations and kept in uh facilities  where they were trained because they had these  

36:30they had these gifts that seemed to be genetic  too partly and very strong in their culture and  

36:37they were used in in you know as almost like human  radar um little kids right but then later you know  

36:45mkl2 you will talk to people and people who are  like the spokespeople for it will say oh no but  

36:51it didn’t work it was just a waste of time and  money MK Ultra was a complete failure and you  

36:58know nothing is being hidden because they didn’t  find anything they didn’t you know none of these  

37:03experiments were real like you said they will they  will pretend it was fake when it was very real  

37:10you know yeah they gasped us sorry they  Gaslight us we Gaslight us constantly yeah  

37:19and we’re all I always say we’re in an  abusive relationship with the government   you know really and they keep coming back  and doing it over and over and we keep I know  

37:30I know it’s wild but that’s why I always  say survivors are you know everybody out  

37:36there is there’s people listening to survivors  of course like people on the show but for the   most part everybody’s turning on their TV and  idolizing these political influencers and these  

37:45politicians and getting their news from them  and it’s like you guys we have to listen to   the people who are being silenced and the people  who aren’t on the news we need to come to like you  

37:55you and other survivors you all have the most  important stories because you have the answers  

38:00to all the questions that everybody’s asking and  then looking at the news to try to find the answer  

38:05the news is nothing but lies no it’s just  complete you know it’s just a complete game of  

38:12deception cause I can’t believe but people do you  know people are still being influenced by it I  

38:18guess they are your world gets very narrow when  you’re someone like me in a way you know it gets  

38:23narrow because it is not that much out there you  can really relate to that doesn’t make you angry  

38:30or you know just at odds with so many people but  as I say the more of a the more the merrier the  

38:39more of us there are the more we talk the more  podcasts like this you know then that’s going to  

38:45change I mean yeah we can have a conversation at  least you know absolutely yes and it’s beautiful  

38:52you know it’s so neat like how else would I have  ever met you you know without the internet and  

38:57without other people that can bridge that  gap of connecting it’s really neat kind of   how this whole spider web it’s this community is  becoming smaller too and that’s also what they  

39:07don’t want they don’t want people like me and  you meeting they don’t want you meeting other   survivors they don’t want podcasters bringing  you on to tell your story but it’s happening  

39:17happening and and I really see the audience  growing I mean yeah that’s they see that  

39:22too I think that scares them but oh well  we’re coming whether they want it or not

39:32so let’s go back to you let’s talk about what were  you specifically used for in these programs and  

39:38then how long did that go for in your life and  what kind of happened to transition out of that

39:45well that’s interesting um um that I fairly  recently I’ve been I have at least um a story  

39:58about it and it and I’ll just say I mean it  seems to involve music which is natural because  

40:05my father was a musician and a music teacher and  had been involved with some Jazz the Jazz scene uh  

40:14which was quite well developed in my very it was  a big Jazz Center in the war and so some big stars  

40:20came out of Montreal like um Maynard Ferguson  and Oscar Peterson okay my father knew them  

40:26although he was not if he was you know not a  great musician or anybody who played in a band and  

40:31so I I think it’s just natural that I would  have been I would have been streamed my  

40:36brother was musical too um into into some sort  of program where I would do I was at least with  

40:43uh around music because that’s been my life  I don’t really play well I don’t I sing a bit  

40:49but you know I don’t I’ve never really  developed musically I haven’t become a  

40:55musician in any way but I’ve always been  around musicians so I think as a child  

41:01I was put in a program where there were some  future rock stars this is what I think that’s  

41:07kind of catchy too people probably but I think  it’s I think it is um what happened and and  

41:14um and they were training Dr Cameron believed  that rock music by the time by about 1960 he  

41:22was saying this I think rock and roll was way too  was um a way to spread mental illness to a society  

41:30rock rock music was I mean you know the people of  his Dem generation would have looked at you know  

41:36uh I don’t know uh Eddie Cochran I just you know  uh Chuck Berry over the release of Fats Domino and  

41:43said well these people are abnormal you know look  how they Elvis Presley main mainly you know look  

41:50how that that person’s behaving this is completely  like animalistic and these people are sick but  

41:57their goal in many ways was to make was to kind  of break down society and make people create kind  

42:04of a chaotic um world that they could then take  control of order out of chaos so so they they saw  

42:12rock and roll as a as a way to channel mental  illness and you would choose people who were  

42:18mentally ill and they would claim their music  and then the audiences would go crazy and they  

42:23were and they did go I mean look at the girls  screaming at the Beatles and Elvis and so and  

42:29all those you know that Trend in the 50s and so  on they watched it and they thought how can we you  

42:34know we’re going to use this plus they were they  had developed uh forms of uh electronic you know  

42:41um signals through music they’re you know they’re  really the the rock the music industry was taken  

42:47over by the military in the mid 50s pretty much  especially maybe in England and you know Emi  

42:53Studios which had the Beatles and the stones and  all the big you know they were recording all the   big bands and all the big groups um that Emi was  the name of was the label it stands for electronic  

43:04music Incorporated and it was an Air Force it was  an extension of the Air Force and of Chavez stock  

43:10right the Tavistock Institute was also involved in  that so they really had an idea that we can’t they  

43:16were using sound to program children’s brains and  they did that on military bases they probably did  

43:22it to me they probably I know they were doing  it you know around Montreal to to Children  

43:28um and it’s basically to see what you could do  with sound to someone to change someone’s brain   waves and so that that absolutely was part of  what rock and roll was intended to be was just  

43:39a form of you know Mass entrainment and so at  McGill in 1956 I I’m fairly sure that I was  

43:52um that there were kids brought over  from England who later went on to become  

43:58uh rock stars and they were at the party that  that I attended when I was five years old  

44:07and and my father being a music teacher and  being still having kind of fairly senior you  

44:14know in his and uh we were well established and  up to a point um and my mother having sort of  

44:21French Canadian political I thought my mother was  from the French Canadian Elite and she had she in  

44:27her youth she really looked like a movie star  so I think there was I think that’s what I was  

44:35chosen for they there was the the idea  that I would go on I would become part of  

44:40the scene that they were in the process  of creating over mostly in England right  

44:46in London Tavistock Institute you know about that  right you know about that Institute so they were  

44:52involved in all kinds of cultural stuff and music  and so on um and I would find find my way into  

44:58that possibly as a model or maybe is a groupie  or something or I don’t know what you know maybe  

45:06um uh I was being groomed in some way  but I think when I was about 12 I blew it  

45:14yeah and and I think my father also got in  into the act and realized that what was going  

45:22on was basically a kind of child trafficking  sexual programming of me right and and that a  

45:30grooming for something that he that his own  morality right his own ethics were against  

45:37and rock and roll he certainly you know he was he  um he didn’t want his daughter to marry a rolling  

45:45stone that was the big thing at the time you  know and would you let your daughter marry a   rolling stone because the the those groups  those bands were just totally overthrowing  

45:55uh traditional morality so parents were appalled  by you know the music and so on so that I think  

46:02was the cutoff point for me and after that  I think it put me into kind of a different  

46:09um stream where they were grooming me to have some  kind of career at the United Nations probably you  

46:14know administrative something boring you know and  and so I was put in a I was moved to a different  

46:21school I had a whole set of different friends  that wasn’t about music anymore it wasn’t it   was just very like I became a prefect at school  and I was like editor of the newspaper and that  

46:33kind of that kind of stuff but I was like  being groomed for some sort of intellectual   you know and um and so that’s in an I think  in a nutshell that’s what happened to me  

46:46was that you know but originally it was going to  be music and I think they flew me to London in  

46:511963 just as the Rolling Stones were at you know  and we’re launching their first record and I think  

46:58I was there for that I have a I have a recovered  memory of it you know so it’s kind of died I find  

47:05that kind of exciting to remember that now to  have flashbacks and to you know and even having  

47:11conversations about it with people who were there  but but um I didn’t I it’s recent it’s recent for  

47:18me to even be able to remember some of this stuff  and um uh you know anyway that’s the yeah I’m I’m  

47:26sort of you know there’s no it’s not all bad in  my opinion because I don’t think rock and roll  

47:32really was bad I think rock and roll actually was  liberating for us and I think it I think it worked  

47:37against the program as much as it did program  people it also made people awake and critical  

47:46and so I I don’t know I think it’s just it’s  this um story of several Generations I don’t  

47:54know how it is for your Generation Now with music  and what is happening coming to you through music   or what music you listen to but you know I think  um that’s I think that’s what happened to me  

48:05back in the 60s right well that’s interesting too  because you know frequency that’s another thing  

48:10that people kind of keep out of the way and it’s  such a big thing that they use against us you know  

48:16music has been changed dramatically all genres  from the frequency that it’s broadcasted to the  

48:23words that they say to the harmonics you know  music used to be these you know beautiful like  

48:28Beethoven compositions and just layers of music  you know and now it’s you know all auto-tuned and  

48:35it’s you know it is in a lot of ways satanic like  what is you know being broadcast and mainstream  

48:40you know it seems to be yeah but that’s it’s  fascinating that you say that because you know  

48:46that’s been something I think especially the  last couple years that people have become more   aware of is the Hollywood model and looking  at it with a critical eye finally and saying  

48:55what is happening on the screen right now like  this is weird you know what why are people dressed  

49:01as Devils and you know why is why are celebrities  walking out in Blood and you know talking about  

49:06these things like that’s very it’s become very  obvious now to people and it’s finally getting   attention but I think the whole music industry  like you said you know they’ve inverted music so  

49:16much to where they use those frequencies against  us and it puts us as humans in a low frequency  

49:22you know when you think about rock music I  think some rock music can almost be popish  

49:27you know but then you have like the heavy metal  that branched off from rock music which is you  

49:33know extremely toxic and like you said getting  a reaction you go to a concert and people are   mosh pitting there’s people that have died of  those concerts you know it’s like they just  

49:42constantly are trying to push the boundaries on  like what raises frequency and then what lowers   it and how do we control people using those  different Dynamics you know you’re right it’s  

49:52it’s so multifaceted too you know there’s so many  sides to it I mean I I read somewhere I mean heard  

50:01that in 1972 that’s when the rock music  industry completely switched over to satanism  

50:07some people say that I mean they say that’s  when the the the new bands coming in had to  

50:13sign contracts or or they also when they began  taking uh screams recorded screams of children  

50:20being tortured and underground bases and so  on and they began you know adding it how do  

50:25you call that you know subliminals putting it  into the music of subliminals all of that took  

50:31off in 1972 was the cutoff date so um you know  I don’t know I lost interest in music after 1972  

50:40but that was just because I was in my I I was  just at an age where you’re not that interested   after in your 20s it’s not like when you’re 14  you know you’re you’re riveted to music you’re  

50:49being really you know you’re really vulnerable to  all to to all of it but by the time set night was  

50:551972 I was 21 and I was I was kind of in the  you know not interested I was so so they but  

51:02anyway I I think it’s just gotten much worse much  more sophisticated um and yet there’s great music  

51:10I mean if you kind of listen out there there’s all  kinds of wonderful music it’s playing even on you  

51:16know I used to keep my radio on a few years  ago and I mean I would hear great things but  

51:22um some of it was from other countries other  cultures that didn’t have French the French  

51:28didn’t have this you know and in Montreal I could  tune into French stations pure French pop music  

51:34and not get this that I don’t know I could listen  to it you know um it didn’t seem to be there to  

51:41destroy your mind I seemed to be there to you  know do the things the music’s supposed to do  

51:47make you fall in love you know that’s incredible  too just how you know different parts of the world  

51:53might have a different type of program that’s  being run and it’s almost like the whole world’s   their experiment you know and it’s like this  country we’re gonna try this this country we’re  

52:01gonna try that we’re gonna do this we’re gonna  do that and then they’re just observing with a   microscope saying what’s going on like we’re  in these little Petri dishes in our countries  

52:11yeah and they’re all running it through the  giant computer you know the Beast or whatever   and you know and they can spend the rest the next  hundred years as they need to analyzing it and  

52:20exactly yes 100 and so after let’s say age 11 12  when your father had some maybe discernment and  

52:31said okay we need to move on from this was  there ever discussions I’m sure you didn’t   remember anything but what happened after that  until you’re your memory started recovering  

52:44I just got um well my one thing about my father is  they took him and they put him in the hospital and  

52:49they brain want and they also depattered him that  was what Dr Cameron you know called his method  

52:56um uh deep patterning which was to take you know  basically to interfere with the Neurology of you  

53:03know of the brain you know and to and to he said  we were all I don’t know I was just reading the  

53:09other day there were people people’s minds  people psychology is really just a whole  

53:14um complex system of multi-layered patterns  but if you shake up those patterns uh you  

53:19can change the person you get a different  person so he would literally wipe people   wipe people’s minds I mean with electroshock  and drugs and so on and repeated messages  

53:30and um it played hundreds of times through with  a football helmet and ear and earphones and a  

53:38battery or something running this this tape in  people’s heads and um so my father actually was  

53:44taken from his work from the school where he  was teaching in um December 1962 and put in  

53:53the hospital and he stayed there for six weeks  and when he came home he really had to have that   he had he didn’t really recognize us at first he  had to he had to relearn you know his own identity  

54:04and um that’s what happened to my father in  1962 now I was 11 at that point um I they  

54:11hadn’t finished with me as far as I can tell they  because I was an asset to them and they had paid  

54:18money for me so the fact that my father was  now kind of he couldn’t work anymore he was  

54:24at home and he was that you know he was sort  of pushed aside they continued working on me  

54:30at that point and that’s I think the following  year is when I think they sent me to London  

54:36um on a you know and I remember being in  London in 1963 you know walking down the  

54:43street in this little dress but that’s just  come to me in the last three years two years  

54:48that memory I didn’t have that memory for most  of my life so okay what I think then I think um

54:57I think that caused a crisis in my family and  we suddenly we we we began making plans to move  

55:04out west to completely leave our home everything  behind my parents loaded up the car and we were  

55:10going to Alberta and and we drove across Canada  that summer but something must have happened on  

55:18when we got out there maybe we just we saw kind  of Canada and we really want to leave Montreal and  

55:23live out on the Prairies you know and I don’t know  but anyway they changed their minds and we drove   back and then kind of resumed our lives so then  a year later I was in high school in high school  

55:34that’s another it was that was for the first year  of high school it was music The Rolling Stones The  

55:42Beatles and the whole and all of my friends were  crazy about um uh The Beatles The Rolling Stones  

55:48and a television program called The Man from  Uncle which when you look at it now you can see  

55:54the people writing that program had to know a lot  about MKUltra so that was okay we were watching it  

56:00weekly and it was a kind of programming coming  at us through a spy you know it was about two  

56:07spies one was Russian one was American and they  worked together for this United Nations type of  

56:13organization and they went all over the world  doing crazy things since on we love this show   but I think also it was it was triggering some  kind of programming or something too at least  

56:22maybe in me or I don’t know maybe other kids who  you know at school so it was after that year so  

56:28after 1965 they they um they just I seem to have  decided that I had to be moved to another school  

56:37and put into another um onto another track in  life and that just took me to University I mean  

56:46um once I was in university all I wanted  to do was make Revolution you know was to   be was overthrow Society I was angry I was  I joined women’s movement I joined you know  

56:58um black power was happening and I just was got  involved in this much of that kind of thing as I  

57:03could be involved in 1968 1969 and so that uh you  know and then I lived in a women’s commune and you  

57:13know and uh went to abortion demonstrations and  you know we did all kinds of stuff that was like  

57:20the whole hippie Revolution right activist yeah  period and a lot of American draft Dodgers have  

57:26come up to Montreal so they were really organizing  a lot of these things too so that was my kind of   career I mean until my mid-20s when when I got fed  up with the women’s movement I could see that it  

57:39was some for it was like a form of Mind Control I  didn’t like what was happening to the women that   I knew who were in it who at first we started out  with so much optimism and hope and energy and and  

57:50positivity and it became something very different  uh very negative very anti-male very very narrow  

57:58in some way and I just said I have to get out  of this and at some point not that long after I  

58:04met Leonard Cohen and he was a figure in Montreal  who had at that point a kind of ambival ambiguous  

58:12figure bed at the same time famous in his own  way and he became a kind of a mentor for me so  

58:19that took took me off in a really different  direction I think that was I think he was  

58:25um he definitely he would have been in the  hospital himself he had gone through the program  

58:31Dr Cameron he you know he had been there been  a lecture shock numerous times many people had  

58:37seen him in there many he even talked about it to  some extent and so I think he was a a programmed  

58:46uh singer writer poet and all these things but um  at a higher level where he had become himself a  

58:54programmer and I think he was my Handler and  but you know at the time again it was like a  

59:01wonderful you know Wonderful coincidence to run  into him or have him phone me one night you know  

59:07invite me over and so that’s when my life took  off in a different kind of a different direction  

59:13I started writing and I began kind of imagining  this career as a writer journalist you know who’s  

59:22writing poetry all kinds of stuff so about how did  how did you meet him and how did that come about  

59:30he used to just I everyone could meet him and you  know in some way he was awesome just wandering  

59:36around town um he he had a bad reputation you  know with women picking up young women and that  

59:43I and so he was someone to avoid in in many  ways at least that I did for years avoid him  

59:51um you know he would stop you you’d pass him in  the street he’d be there you know and he would  

59:56he would recognize him you know and then he tried  to start a conversation um he was in bars a lot  

1:00:03you know and uh at the same time he was going you  know he was going to Israel and he was you know  

1:00:10fighting in the Yom Kippur War and coming back  and you know he bought some buildings and had  

1:00:16that little corner um of the downtown that was  kind of several buildings that he owned and then  

1:00:23he started a family had a kid I had a couple of  kids you know and and when I met him he had his  

1:00:29children were I think three years old and five  three and five and he had split with his wife  

1:00:35so he just phoned he got my number from from  someone that I knew who was his Carpenter who  

1:00:42was renovating one of his buildings and this  person had been telling me about Leonard and  

1:00:47you know you should get to know you should meet  Leonard and I was saying I don’t know and finally   I gave him my phone number and uh I said if you  see Leonard you know maybe he can you know here’s  

1:00:58my phone number so within 24 hours I got a phone  call and he invited me over that was it was that  

1:01:06simple I lived about two blocks from him at that  point two or three blocks I thought was there in   you know 10 minutes or something and then just  friendly you know social kind of chatting and  

1:01:19tea and played this guitar and sing cowboy song  and that’s how I kind of you know got sucked in

1:01:29it was you know and I felt very lucky that  that this had happened I didn’t understand  

1:01:34like I’m sure now that what he was doing was he  was kind of calling me back he was he was he was  

1:01:42um assigned to me he was partly acting out of  you know instructions because I had started  

1:01:49publishing poetry so he CL and a book had come  out and I was in anthology and he told me he’d  

1:01:56read my poems and that’s why he called me because  he liked them better than anyone else’s you know   that’s what he said then that’s why I believed  you know at the time oh he likes me you know but  

1:02:06I think there was much more to it yeah much more  was going on and it was about getting me back  

1:02:12into the under the umbrella and you had  mentioned that uh in other interviews that  

1:02:20you’ve done about a possible connection  whenever you were a child with him at   the McGill University could you talk about  that right you’ve heard that story now um  

1:02:32um that I can’t explain I can’t find  another way to explain how closely  

1:02:41he um he seemed to be able to relate to me when I  was meeting him for the first time how he seemed  

1:02:48to know me how he seemed to you know he invited me  into his world it made it really made no sense and  

1:02:55nobody would believe it you know like why would he  do that because it wasn’t like I was running after  

1:03:00him and trying to seduce him or that I was a very  sexy woman who you know he found her or something   like that it was absolutely not and it was just  like a friendly thing but it was somehow family  

1:03:10and the okay so about how many years ago five six  years ago I had a friend who’s since deceased but  

1:03:18he um he did a meditation one day at one or  you know and told me he you know he was going  

1:03:26to go into what the causes of this relationship  with Leonard Cohen that had eaten up a lot of   my life had really taken up a lot of space in  my life he didn’t he didn’t think that he said  

1:03:35there’s something wrong or there’s something  hot there’s got to be a reason for it he did   a meditation and he saw me as a child on a table  in the hospital kind of on a you know a stretcher  

1:03:45or something surrounded by doctors and white  jackets and they they were Electro shocking me  

1:03:51and I was in the I was four or five years old is  when I think this actually happened now I had had  

1:03:56my own flashback to them a couple of years before  but I never talked about it and I never told him  

1:04:02but he kind of spontaneously you know traveled  to that time saw that happening and he saw that  

1:04:09you know and I’m from my own flashback I  knew they electroshocked me to the heart   and it caused my heart to you know splutter  not you know and then they said well if we  

1:04:18do this again it could be lethal and okay we’ll  try I mean that was their attitude I mean that  

1:04:27was these doctors right oh let’s do it so they  were about to do it and in my flash book that’s  

1:04:33the point where I woke up kind of in a being  feeling shocked which kind of right you know  

1:04:39jumping in the air almost off the table and  I woke up from the flashback and you know   that’s what happens often you can’t go beyond a  certain point then you just can never find out  

1:04:47so my friend Patrick saw what happened at that  point he said a guy comes running in the room  

1:04:55uh it’s Leonard Cohen he’s like 20  years old and he stops it from happening

1:05:02for me it was completely believable because it  explained the whole psychology of my relationship  

1:05:09with Leonard where he was he called me we  Annie even though I was six feet tall and   you know and and you know he had little little  habits you know it was sort of sometimes as if  

1:05:23he saw me as a little girl which I was not I  was 26 years old and I was six weeks old and  

1:05:28I was not a little girl you know I was he was  five foot seven so I mean um uh it just it just  

1:05:35explained it explained to his patience with me and  explained how he he was very tolerant of a lot of  

1:05:41things he was very jovial he kind of treated me  in this way that you know it just it just wiped  

1:05:49away all the strange unanswered questions of  the relationship which had gone on for 20 years  

1:05:55and which really fell apart because of another  little girl where you know I so I mean um

1:06:07where I began to sense this  pedophile you know under current   two and then just freaked me out completely so  that’s really one reason why the relationship  

1:06:17my relationship with him couldn’t continue but  um you know I think he just I’ve never I don’t  

1:06:25know if I’ve ever said that before to anyone but  but I mean he I think he was part of a generation  

1:06:33and and his own like programming was the Hugh  Hefner generation and they were introducing  

1:06:41pedophilia along with the whole all the you know  things in the 60s the sexual Revolution and the  

1:06:47feminism and all the things that were suddenly  you know current and they were being promoted  

1:06:53everywhere like transculture now they were  promoting they were really beginning to promote  

1:06:58sex between children and adults in the 70s Hefner  and was talking was hinting at it in Playboy and  

1:07:06you know it was becoming it was going to be the  next thing and I think Cohen felt also that it it  

1:07:12was um if he believed in it so much as he felt it  was inevitable or something and so I picked up on  

1:07:20that sometime around you know in the late 70s I  began noticing that and I just you know found it  

1:07:26anyway wow did he say certain things or what  was it that gave you that Vibe what was what  

1:07:33what was it that gave you that Vibe did he  make comments or what did he do Behavior  

1:07:40um talk it was yeah I don’t want to talk too much  about people but yeah things he said some Behavior  

1:07:46with children um not that I saw sexual behavior  I didn’t but I sense the atmosphere and what the  

1:07:53children were being exposed to and what they knew  about which seemed like you know I mean of course  

1:07:59later generations were exposed to a lot more  than my gen my little generation you know in  

1:08:06the 50s but nevertheless I found some of  it you know disturbing and um I couldn’t  

1:08:12get a clear answer out of him I guess about it  and I just started to distance myself you know  

1:08:18um I don’t know what more to say about it it’s  just more like he felt I I think he you know  

1:08:24in the same way that he embraced religion in a  very you know like I a total kind of way he would  

1:08:31um he would take on these kinds of beliefs and  so on very he was dogmatic in a strange way he  

1:08:40was he’s like he saw his role as being to you  know to uplift people in some ways and teach  

1:08:46them you know the Torah you teach them the true  teachings of Judaism or or Christianity too but  

1:08:53but then he’d also you know sort of teach him  about the programming that was coming you know  

1:08:58he he was kind of an all-around mouthpiece I  mean you never stopped talking you know like  

1:09:06me now I understand it better now but I thought  it was interesting too how you had mentioned and  

1:09:14it’s not surprising but it’s just again there’s so  many hidden societies and hidden roles that people  

1:09:19have behind the scenes that the public doesn’t  see how you had mentioned he was a 33rd degree   Freemason yeah I’ve been told that I’m by several  people yeah and then he had also talked about and  

1:09:31kind of hinted at bringing you into kind of  a weird cult that he may have been in right  

1:09:38wasn’t he talking to you about some cult like  a death called or something like that it was um  

1:09:44there was a period when he seemed to be forming a  cult and he was also a member he was a student of  

1:09:50a Zen master in California called Sasaki roshi so  he was he was kind of he yeah he was um I had been  

1:10:00studying for you know a couple of decades I guess  and he started talking about bringing Judaism and  

1:10:06the Kabbalah together with Zen and creating a new  religion and symbolism and so on and this was at a  

1:10:13low point in his music career I think that’s when  people get into these kinds of things you know so   he he you could see it was very much on his mind  and that to to talk about religion but a kind of  

1:10:25cult you know kind of culty type of religion you  know and the kind of thing is Masonic essentially  

1:10:30Masonic and he had you know he designed these  symbols male and female energies you know  

1:10:39um you know and then I think his career I think  that kind of ended when suddenly had it had a  

1:10:46hit record again in 99 about 1988 he found a  new manager and she uh rebuilt his career and  

1:10:53suddenly I mean I think that’s when he kind of  in a way dropped the the put that as put aside  

1:11:00the religious thing I and and got into music  for a few years and you know it just had this  

1:11:07checkered career I also believe he he I know for  a fact he went on missions uh he was a a mercenary  

1:11:16but no one knows that it seems nobody really wants  to look at that but but I I would say uh he he was  

1:11:24often in places where there were were Mossad  you know had installed itself or the CIA was  

1:11:30involved or there was a revolution in progress and  he seemed to play some kind of role in revolutions   and um coups and things like that the Bay of  Pigs in 1961 in Cuba and you know and Ethiopia  

1:11:44Israel well during the war there yeah so he was a  military person he had weapons training you know  

1:11:54it’s very complicated yeah and I think especially  for you you know having this coincidental what  

1:12:02you thought was coincidental uh relationship with  him and then finding later potentially that maybe  

1:12:08this this relationship in a sense or just this  connection was going on for a very long time since  

1:12:14you were little yeah and there was affection that  came I believe there was the strong this was the  

1:12:20whole thing about it it was hard to dismiss for  me uh that there seemed to be genuine affection  

1:12:27and this it was quite uh yeah complicated to to  process I and for a while I thought he’s just  

1:12:35a Buddhist you know he just loves everyone and  so I would introduce people to him thinking well  

1:12:41he’s going to love them too you know you know  they’ll get some of this love and they didn’t   they did and then so slowly you know it took me a  long time to realize well it’s because you know he  

1:12:52no he doesn’t love everybody he but he remembers  this little girl that he knew at one point in the  

1:12:58hospital we Annie you know that was the thing  now it’s very simple when you figure it out  

1:13:06but I had Amnesia right I had no memory all  of that was gone from the lsdn or whatever  

1:13:13they did to me to make me forget all of that  he remembered though you know so it humanizes  

1:13:20him you know I think that’s the other thing that  people who didn’t go through something like you  

1:13:26on the outside when you hear about you know the  abuse that people are indoctrinated into in these  

1:13:31systems and the things that they’re forced to  do it’s not good you know it’s very uh there’s  

1:13:37a lot of violence a lot of trauma there’s a lot  of forcing people to do things against their will   there’s a lot of non-consensual actions you know  and then those people grow up to then perpetuate  

1:13:48It On to the Next Generation right and so of  course Society should be so angry that that these  

1:13:54people are out there walking you know there’s very  little persecution but at the same time it helps  

1:13:59to humanize people and to to remember that they  were also born children of God who were abused you  

1:14:06know and these people were were taken advantage  of they were programmed they never had a choice   their whole life and a lot of them still like I  bet any of them you know if they would have had a  

1:14:16choice they would have chosen love and they would  have chosen to be kind to the child or the or the   children you know and and it just didn’t happen  that way because they never had that choice and  

1:14:25they never got that choice and I love how your  story you know it Paints the picture of who he  

1:14:30might have been you know this Intel person who  is handling you all his intentions or the things   that he was made to do with the relationship may  not have been pure but it seems like there was a  

1:14:40place in his heart that was very pure for you  and that he showed that to you for a long time  

1:14:46yeah and that’s ABS again you’re really you’re  so clear yeah exactly and it could take it’s  

1:14:52taken me many years to kind of process that and  come to that that kind of understanding of it I  

1:14:58um you know he died in 2016 and uh um I don’t  know I had a lot of resentment against him up  

1:15:07until that point you know all right up until his  death I think and once once he was gone it was  

1:15:12as if we had to do we still had a relationship in  some way and but it had changed and the pressure  

1:15:19that he used to constantly complain about the  obligations and the feeling of he had no choice in  

1:15:26the matter and many things he used to say that all  the time and I used to just not understand it you  

1:15:31know I used to go what do you mean you know you’re  a millionaire I mean you’re famous you’re telling   me you have no control over your career but I  think it was absolutely true because the career  

1:15:41would never have come to him had he not made  all these deals and all these you know all these   secret agreements that then he had to pay the  price for and so once he was dead thank you thank  

1:15:53you Lord you know once he was dead all of that  just dissolved and in a way I felt also free from  

1:16:01a lot of things because I didn’t have to think  about him anymore I think about all the you know   all these puzzling you know I had still had these  memories of things that had happened we just just  

1:16:12you can be free if you can if you can overcome  your fear of death you’re free of most things  

1:16:18in this world that’s really what it’s all  based on that’s how they get us you know  

1:16:24yeah so especially like we’ve definitely seen  that you know Amplified the last few years  

1:16:30everything’s been death and dying and you’re  gonna get people sick and you know it’s been   this huge Warfare against us being afraid of  us dying of something or us giving somebody  

1:16:41something that’s going to kill them you know and  that’s that it’s so powerful what that does to a   whole society when you you know implant that  fear and Trauma onto them on a grand scale  

1:16:52it’s like blackmailing the whole society isn’t it  you know stealing everything yeah stealing their  

1:17:00choices yeah like every generation has to learn  a lesson in their own way over and over again  

1:17:07and it’s always really the same lesson I guess  you know like who am I and what am I able what  

1:17:13am I capable of and and what will I accept what  won’t I accept and you know what am I here to do  

1:17:20comes down to those things yes and we’re asking  going around you know staying indoors for a year  

1:17:27you know that’s not why I came here you know  right yes and taking back the gifts that are  

1:17:34ours that they want to exploit and you know lower  the frequency of you know and step into Who We Are

1:17:42yeah we’re working on it and so let’s go into when  you started to have memory recall when did that  

1:17:52happen and what what triggered that for you to say  oh my gosh my life wasn’t what I thought it was  

1:17:59um big time in two it was I was 50. I had  just turned 50. so it was in 2003 I mean I’m  

1:18:07time flies but really all my life I had some  very strange memories like I had I remembered  

1:18:14and told my mother when I was four or five about  being in an underground base where children would  

1:18:21be tortured basically and I and at four I had  a very visit you know um I don’t know I mean  

1:18:29dream fantasy but it was a scenario that I that  came up for me every night I would recreate it  

1:18:36in my mind but I had because I’d experienced  it I felt but my mother said well it’s a Dream  

1:18:42It’s a nightmare you know and it didn’t it’s not  real but it was identical it was odd had there  

1:18:48were odd details about it that were identical  to another Survivor that I found out about I  

1:18:53started in 2003 and it might have been folly I’m  not sure but um I think maybe it was but it was  

1:19:02um China Lake military base in California had the  exact scenario that I remembered and I have proof  

1:19:11it because I wrote about it in 19 in the 1980s  I wrote a short story that got published that  

1:19:17describes it so I can’t nobody can say well you  just read about it on the internet in 2000 and  

1:19:22then you you know it absolutely was with me all  my life um and uh so that’s you know memories  

1:19:32I remember some of the trauma you  know in my family I remember you know  

1:19:37um yeah some of the things that you know that  were odd that were happening like not being at  

1:19:43school you know about half the year and you know  but a lot of that’s just behind Amnesia was or  

1:19:49they they create anyway that’s but you know just  odd things and then but then in 2003 that’s when  

1:19:56I really uh had the time and I instantly plowed  into MK Ultra I basically stumbled on it and  

1:20:04recognized certain things and realized this was  this was my city my time my father had been you  

1:20:14know in the Allen with this dog the same doctor  and it could you know we were involved in it I  

1:20:21mean I but I know it ever told me that before it  had been downplayed and my parents were more they  

1:20:28were more concerned about not us not knowing  they didn’t want us to know because I they   didn’t understand it either they wouldn’t have  been able to explain it and it had traumatized  

1:20:38them and they just didn’t want our lives to  be you know ruined by so they tried to pretend  

1:20:45that nothing had happened and that’s why I have  all these idyllic memories of childhood and you   know and I’m having been successful at school  I wasn’t a you know I was like a model student  

1:20:56and um those are yeah that was my conscious you  know with the word you know my front altar I guess  

1:21:03was like that but but once I started researching  then you know things began fitting together  

1:21:09it’s funny because some people get flooded I was  I was warned some people go and get hypnotized and  

1:21:18um OC therapist and be and try to  recall the memories I I was warned not   to do that so I didn’t do it just at the  beginning of you know in the early 2000s  

1:21:29um so in instead I approached it from the outside  and I did research I I read thousands of pages of  

1:21:37about MK Ultra I corresponded with people I didn’t  I still didn’t believe that I had been in it as a  

1:21:44child until I met a group of psychics in Montreal  and they basically came to me and said we want to  

1:21:53work with you we think you have a story one of  them in particular who I had met who could see  

1:21:58who said my father told him you know my father  had been dead for 30 30 years at that point but  

1:22:05um your father is telling me that his story needs  to be told and you need to tell it and I want I  

1:22:11have a group of people that will work with you  and I was still pretty you know I I knew a lot  

1:22:17about the program I knew not about the history  I had studied enough and for over a year after  

1:22:22a year so I knew the history of it all but  I I didn’t see where I fit into it and these  

1:22:28people were just natural remote viewers and they  formed like a circle and we met week after week  

1:22:36and sometimes we videoed you know or taped  the session and um they they went to without  

1:22:43my giving them any kind of instructions because  I wasn’t sure what to tell them they went back  

1:22:50to McGill in 1960 and talked to the children who  were living in the laboratory under the ground  

1:22:55and going through experiments and they and even  I I didn’t know about those children and then  

1:23:01and none of them knew about the children and we  had their got their names and their life stories  

1:23:06and we even looked at their files and it was a  whole that took up a year or two or even longer  

1:23:14that was just amazing and it was we were all just  blank we I mean we’re not in no way except for  

1:23:21me who had done all the reading and the research  but couldn’t connect it to my own life or my own  

1:23:27really yet I wasn’t able to to put it together  and and these people filled in all those blanks

1:23:34so that is okay that’s where I’ll show you  this is my book and I wrote this in 2004 and  

1:23:41and it’s called my cold war and that and the  story of the remote viewing is in there it’s   it’s really kind of a self-published  book with it has its flaws but but  

1:23:51um that’s what came out of that ex you know  that whole period and so on and all the research  

1:23:57just tell me my family your book is  your testimony right and people can work  

1:24:03yeah first person did you say I said where can  people purchase that ah online you can go to my  

1:24:10website it’s like oh you can go to if you if you  Google and Diamond my cold war Ann Diamond my cold  

1:24:20war and you might put in Amazon or Lulu either  it should be available on both and you should  

1:24:27be able to get copies either and there’s free I  have it on my website uh I’m giving away the PDF  

1:24:34three if somebody wants to you know contact me  I can send them a PDF or they can download it   wow that’s amazing so you said Amazon Lulu or they  could contact you directly and get a PDF of it  

1:24:45yeah or even just if they can fund I don’t know  yeah I can give you a link at the end of the show  

1:24:51so talk about that process a little bit like why  why and how did you decide to go public and what  

1:24:57was that like for you especially because like how  we were talking about earlier it was a different   time back in the early 2000s you know what was  your motivation to do that and like what was the  

1:25:06process um I was motivated by the idea I had  a great story and then it would get published  

1:25:12and thousand and millions of people would read  it I really I mean maybe thousands you know in  

1:25:18Canada and then it would make a big difference  and it would help people because you know that   was my motivation and my belief but what actually  happened was there was an a complete uh I was  

1:25:31completely shut down by every in every direction  that I went to talk to Publishers agents editors  

1:25:38you know magazines anybody that I approached  um instantly shut me down and I had a I you  

1:25:47know published in a couple of novels at that  point and I had you know I had been teaching   creative writing and a university and so on  and I had it I knew all kinds of people you  

1:25:56know I’ve been a journalist I had to call him you  know in the Montreal Gazette and or anything so I  

1:26:02sort of had this public you know uh personality  in a way persona but once I came out with this  

1:26:10story or I try I had the manuscript and I started  trying to just tell people Publishers you know  

1:26:16um maybe you’d be interested in this it’s a  fantastic story it’s a very it’s very disturbed   you know without I believe they they rejected  it without reading it because they already knew  

1:26:28I was not the first and they already knew that  it was absolutely taboo the topic is taboo you  

1:26:35cannot talk about it in Canada it’s because of the  children because I was talking about the children  

1:26:42and it’s they have just crushed that you know  it and even though in on at conferences in the  

1:26:50states at the time it was being talked about and  there were people in Canada that were researching   it and and I have met them and so on but nobody  has had a book published as far as I know so um  

1:27:03what happened was just a complete blacklisting and  everybody just you know and then I think people  

1:27:08were told I was schizophrenic and I you know don’t  even deal with her and she’s gone crazy and it was  

1:27:14a real um yeah that happened pretty fast and  then that and then I just pulled myself out  

1:27:23I’m I moved to Greece I mean I found a I found  a a boyfriend to Greece in her life in Greece  

1:27:28that was just kind of given just offered to me at  that same time and I I just said this you know I  

1:27:34I can’t be here and just fight with this because  there’s no I can’t even get a finger fingernail  

1:27:39hold you know anywhere there’s nobody will talk  to me and they’re ready to forget everything like  

1:27:44that they even knew me and just you know fall  into line it was shocking really to see people  

1:27:53you know and uh so that’s it’s been 20 years  almost yeah and finally you know a group has  

1:28:03formed there’s a lot of um there are two lawsuits  and in fact you could say there are three lawsuits  

1:28:10in progress class action suits there’s been media  some media attention and they still don’t talk  

1:28:15about children unless it’s Aboriginal it’s native  children indigenous children the Mohawk children  

1:28:22because they can’t deny that anymore they found  all the mass Graves or they’re you know they think  

1:28:27they’re they found the mass Graves all across the  country so they can’t stop the Mohawk mothers from  

1:28:32saying our children are buried at Mcgill and  this has made a huge difference because there   are other children buried at McGill there’s a  lot of I think Mohawk kids yes in the ground  

1:28:42there are a lot I don’t know how many but a lot  of missing Mohawk children but I believe there   are other other children there and all across  Canada there are mass grades with children  

1:28:53but you can imagine I mean the Department of  Defense has completely you know they they control  

1:28:59the media I guess if you know if there’s anyone  I think there was a documentary that was going  

1:29:05to air in about 1998 and they just canceled  it it’s never been seen yeah I was told yeah  

1:29:13it’s amazing to me how long they’ve been able  to cover all this up you know because there’s  

1:29:18even like there’s even proof the CIA has come out  and said we did this it stopped but we did it you  

1:29:25know and people still are like oh that that  never happened or it’s not it couldn’t happen   and you had said in an interview you’re like why  would they stop something that was so effective  

1:29:35you know why would we just believe oh it worked  great we’re just gonna stop it though because   the public doesn’t want us to do it anymore you  know it’s just so tricky and they find different  

1:29:45ways and they they destroyed or they hid the  records you know it I mean I’m sure they had   many panic attacks when they realized that they  what you know what they were sitting on and I’m  

1:29:55sure that still goes on today at McGill University  which you know there was a an injunction and they  

1:30:01were and they were had agreed to uh produce the  records and they’ve gone they’ve reneged on their  

1:30:06agreement within two weeks they were saying no no  no we won’t no we won’t we said we would but no   we won’t well because they can’t I think because  they can’t without completely you know exposing  

1:30:19everything and who really who wants to you know  who wants to know does anyone want to know well we  

1:30:27do you know yeah we need to know that I think more  people too would want to know if they could just  

1:30:33wrap their mind around that it’s it’s possible  you know people are just they’ve just been told so  

1:30:39many times repetition mind control right this is  fake this is conspiracy so people don’t even want  

1:30:45to consider it you know and even trauma trauma in  itself we’re so not dialed in as a society on how  

1:30:53trauma actually affects our bodies and like  you were saying with the Tavistock Institute   the whole Rockefeller you know education system  they’ve dumbed down and taken out of textbooks for  

1:31:04psychologists and counselors people that could  have an impact don’t even have access to this  

1:31:09information and so they think it’s a conspiracy  when somebody like you comes in and says here’s  

1:31:15everything I went through here’s what’s going on  with my body and they they say you’re crazy we’re   gonna lock you up you know and it’s so sad because  it’s actually really powerful and interesting how  

1:31:25trauma affects us and then learning how we can  undo that and so so many people would benefit   if they had that knowledge and instead people  don’t even realize that what they’re dealing  

1:31:34with is trauma much less how to help themselves  through it yeah and Trauma and just even hearing  

1:31:42about it is traumatic you know it’s just knowing  this whole story is is a form of trauma in itself  

1:31:50apart from you know the tortures and so on  and they did they tortured people sensory   isolation I mean they what they did with  children at McGill went in directly into the  

1:32:00um cia’s torture manual you know kubark torture  manual has methods that were developed at McGill  

1:32:08by Donald Dr Hebb and Dr Cameron and then these  some of these they were great named Dr Lehman  

1:32:14you know great names in medicine or of science  you know it could really turn you against science  

1:32:22I mean what they did was just such a a distortion  of Psychiatry you know when I was and when I was  

1:32:29I don’t know in my teens I thought I wanted  to be a psychiatrist when I grew up I wanted   you know I was reading books on Psychiatry and RD  Lang and you know all the transcendental you know  

1:32:43Consciousness and I thought that’s  what psychiatrists would say it’s to   help people open up to this you know this  bigger universe and to heal themselves and  

1:32:51all that but what was being done at McGill  at that time was actual torture you know  

1:32:59it was intended it was military mind control with  no there was no healing at all they just destroyed  

1:33:07they destroyed families they destroyed  patients they went after their children  

1:33:13it was just a criminal it was a criminal operation  right in the middle of a world famous you know  

1:33:20institution that was being looked to as a model  you know around the world just makes no sense or  

1:33:29it does you know make sense but it does once you  learn but I mean you’ve even said you know this  

1:33:34was happening at Harvard and this was happening  at these other you know I’m being A-list schools  

1:33:40it was so I don’t know I just well just recently  I read an article from from The New Yorker about  

1:33:45a guy who claims he was it was very convincing  very persuasive you know personal story of a  

1:33:50guy who was so depressed he was ready to  kill himself and electroshock cured him  

1:33:56and how he describes innocently it’s from a  couple of years ago in the New Yorker I just   read it the other day and all I could think of was  this is so different his experience the doctors  

1:34:06were trying to help but they were very firm we  were going to give you this treatment it’s the   only thing that you can help you and the nurse  you know and he knew all these people who were  

1:34:14suffering and he just describes it it’s so Humane  it’s New York Institute of Psychiatry that he he  

1:34:20was in you know Columbia University and it’s  the same institution that was doing the in  

1:34:27the military mind control you know experiments in  the 50s and destroying people imprisoning people  

1:34:35and so what it where’s the what is it is  it just certain people that they select  

1:34:40that they actually help or is it different  you know different time periods different  

1:34:48what is going on I mean you know it’s wild what  helped you when you were healing you mentioned  

1:34:56the group of people that came around you and  helped you maybe remote view what other tools  

1:35:01were really helpful for you I know it’s not the  same for everybody but I love talking about that   a little bit because something you know that  you say might be really helpful for somebody  

1:35:11um I learned I went to the it was called  the smart conference I don’t know if in   Connecticut and there was a group of people  including Carol rutz and I don’t know if you  

1:35:20know Wanda carricker she wrote a book you know  her book uh no I can’t remember the name but oh  

1:35:26the name sounds familiar but I wouldn’t be  able to to recall where her book is called  

1:35:32um she wrote a book with something that entitled  like min oh I forget anyway something about the  

1:35:37dawn or I forget but it’s a really very good novel  about a small town in in New England where where  

1:35:43uh people are being yeah are going through these  kinds of cult programming experiences anyway she  

1:35:49was there and a lot of other people and and  there was a kind of a discussion what is what  

1:35:54is the best form of therapy that you can recommend  afterwards you know people were talking about it  

1:36:00online and and they did a poll of I don’t know a  lot of survivors uh and number one is talk therapy  

1:36:10if you can afford that or find somebody  who’ll talk to you you know I never could so  

1:36:16um but and the second is writing so I’m fine with  that they’re very close I can’t remember the other  

1:36:22you know you know play therapy sandbox I don’t  know you know but those two are they’re absolutely  

1:36:28at the top so I think if someone you know I never  could afford to see a therapist I don’t you know  

1:36:33I you know I never went to therapy I wonder what  if what would have happened if I had you know back  

1:36:40before all this they probably would have given  me drugs or something I don’t know you know but  

1:36:46I’m glad I’ve always had this habit of writing  and I think it’s a good habit to cultivate and  

1:36:54it’s very helpful to go back and look at yourself  as you you know what you wrote 10 20 years ago if  

1:37:00you can keep that you know or even two years ago  or even six months ago I used to you know often  

1:37:07kind of keep Diaries and uh now it’s mostly in  emails but I still can find those you know I  

1:37:14yeah and writing’s so powerful too just because  it doesn’t elicit that same fight or flight uh  

1:37:23sympathetic nervous system response it’s kind of  the opposite so it’s really it’s a lot easier to  

1:37:28process without having to speak it you know  remember when you were saying that when you   started talking you would shake and it’s very  different when you can keep quiet and just  

1:37:37hold a pen and write like it affects our body  differently and and puts us in a different you  

1:37:42know a different state you’re right do you write  yourself do you do I love you I love writing yeah  

1:37:52yeah it kind of comes through you know that anyway  you become you’re you’re your own therapist then  

1:37:58but you’re also your friend your best friend in  a way you can talk to yourself without having to  

1:38:03you know make excuses and I think it it leads  to eventually you know you’re an integrated  

1:38:10personality that could take a long time for  some people absolutely yes well luckily now  

1:38:16we have people like you we have people like Kathy  O’Brien and you know Lisa meister’s and a lot of  

1:38:22people who have healed and who all have different  ways of doing it and now hopefully people who are  

1:38:28going through what you did you know to some degree  or who are dealing with different levels of trauma  

1:38:33they’ll be able to find people like you and get  tools more easily than they would have been able   to 20 30 40 years ago you know even five years ago  you know so my hope is that people you know the  

1:38:43process of healing accelerates with time as more  people speak out more people share more counselors  

1:38:49talk to people like you you know instead of just  trusting their textbooks they say what did you go  

1:38:55through you know and how does it affect your body  and start learning outside of the box you know so  

1:39:00that gives me a lot of Hope too that there’s  there’s more information on actual trauma and  

1:39:06actual healing of you know did and just extreme  trauma that’s that’s being advocated for by  

1:39:12survivors and you’re seeing that happening right  are you yes in the future that’s happening you see  

1:39:19it I’m seeing it yeah I’m seeing therapists now  talk to Satanic ritual abuse survivors and I’m  

1:39:24character survivors and work with those people and  try to understand you know that clientele versus  

1:39:30just the type that they learned about in school  and I think that’s amazing there’s a Survivor that  

1:39:36um that I’ve interviewed her daughter is going  to school to be a a psychologist and wants to  

1:39:42work with MK Ultra SRA victims you know and  she learned from her mom the truth and now  

1:39:47she’s gonna go apply it to the education  system and see if she can kind of pave a   way that other people aren’t you know and it’s  like takes one person at a time to do something  

1:39:56like that to where it becomes more people start  looking outside their textbooks and saying what  

1:40:02didn’t they teach me in school that I need to  know it could take a lifetime you know for some  

1:40:08people to get to that point I know I mean  that’s so encouraging to know and you’re in but I have also seen up in Canada I mean  I know of a couple of cases where some uh  

1:40:28an MK Ultra Survivor got therapy in  London Ontario which is a huge hub  

1:40:35for MKUltra in Canada and yet you know people  don’t seem to know it and she she’s got a a  

1:40:42therapist to come to her house who was like  you know supposed to be helping with her who  

1:40:48completely denied her experience and by the end of  the it caused her Kathy to to begin to doubt you  

1:40:58know and start uh doubt her own memories because  they’re very delicate these things you know these  

1:41:04horrific childhood infants you know from infancy  things are horrible she had some really horrible  

1:41:11things happened to her and she’d been getting  support from a group of Americans you know she’d  

1:41:17gone to the conference at uh with um you know some  I don’t know some of the really big names of you  

1:41:23know 30 years ago the first people to expose this  like Claudia Mullen and blonde shabusty and there  

1:41:29were any other names she knew those people  and they had supported her but once she was   back in London Ontario this heavily psychiatrist  Community I mean they have hospitals coming out of  

1:41:41the psychiatrists coming out of the woodwork there  and and she began calling me a conspiracy theorist  

1:41:48you know after because she she just didn’t trust  herself anymore she didn’t trust it and I was very  

1:41:55you know that’s quite suppressing I don’t think  we’re anywhere near where you are and count I  

1:42:00think Canada is really backward in this you know  so there’s definitely a long way to go you know  

1:42:08and one person at a time and it might it might  take Generations but at least we’re starting   to see some counselors and there’s books  being written you know and people caring  

1:42:19and it’s like that makes me excited that  in a you know a couple or a few Generations   hopefully they have a lot more knowledge more  widespread in mainstream than we have now  

1:42:30yeah and look how I’m sure it’s changed your life  you know and really opened and and probably didn’t  

1:42:35take that long might have taken you a year or two  to sort of or less even to take it in to begin to  

1:42:41really get an an understanding you you have a  lot you have a deep understanding of it I think  

1:42:46it’s been so helpful getting to do this that was  one thing like I wanted to start a podcast so I  

1:42:52could have one spot where people could go to  to meet people like you and to hear from Kathy  

1:42:58O’Brien and to have like a library but one of the  things that I didn’t realize was how beneficial  

1:43:04it would be for me you know I’ve heard so  many stories over the last two and a half   years and it has like it was so hard for me to  understand like I go back to some of my really  

1:43:13early interviews and I had no idea how to respond  to any of this stuff it just was so out of my my  

1:43:19you know my Lane of thinking and it still is like  I can’t fully comprehend it but I get it like I’ve  

1:43:26gotten I understand the science behind it and I  understand the motive behind it even if I don’t  

1:43:33get how people can do it it’s like I see a big  picture now of what the goal was and is and I  

1:43:41could see it in the world being you know Amplified  over the entire world instead of just you know  

1:43:46at a college or in one spot they’re taking that  information and now you know exploiting the public  

1:43:52like you know so I think you know these stories  really are helpful like it helps so much hearing  

1:43:58from you and getting that breakdown of your  experience so people like me can say oh and  

1:44:05seems brilliant she doesn’t seem like a conspiracy  theorist like she’s really smart and what she said   makes sense you know and it kind of normalizes the  conversation because it’s been unfortunately like  

1:44:16MK Ultra you know it’s like how you said it’s  not properly portrayed when you do hear about  

1:44:21it it’s like this extreme you know way that it’s  presented it doesn’t sound normal like it’s not a  

1:44:30way it’s not like you know sitting in a classroom  and hearing a teacher where somebody can take it   in and say oh you know that sounds logical or it  makes sense it’s it’s almost exploited in a way  

1:44:39where people just write it off right away they’re  like that’s too weird I don’t even want to look   at it where if they listen to a podcast like this  and just hear two people talking it doesn’t sound  

1:44:48so crazy anymore when you just hear the stories  and how it connects and you do research on the  

1:44:54people you know somebody goes and researches the  doctors that you talk about in the school and all  

1:44:59of a sudden it’s like maybe that could happen  like it doesn’t sound so crazy anymore you know  

1:45:06Yeah the more we know I mean the more we know the  less we know but I think when you hear someone’s  

1:45:11story and when they can connect you know when  they can connect it all chronologically and  

1:45:17show there’s a logic to there’s like a it’s  almost like it’s inevitable the way things  

1:45:22developed you know they decided they wanted to  you know control people’s minds and uh prepare  

1:45:28people for a a future where war of where Warfare  would be like everywhere that was I think you know  

1:45:37bringing Warfare home to domestic populations and  then oh well this how would you do it well I just  

1:45:43went about doing it in all these you know taking  all the people the populations and the people  

1:45:49that they could get you know who had who were  vulnerable who couldn’t protect themselves the   children it just it’s just what you would do  if you were a mad scientist with a with a lot  

1:45:59of money military background and um not much no  compassion or you know anyway absolutely yes and  

1:46:12so I’m so grateful for you and all the work that  you’ve done and you talked about your book I’d   love for you to talk a little bit about your blog  talk about some of the stuff that you’re working  

1:46:20on and maybe um anything that you have coming  up or just where people can can aside from your  

1:46:27book where people can connect with you and see  the work that you’ve been doing over the years   um well I’m sort of working on new fresh  blogs right now and they’re they’re sort of  

1:46:36only semi-public I’m sort of doing them it’s like  my place to write and I share with a few people  

1:46:42and I have and one of the one of them is that  is really I’m trying to finish my story about   Leonard Cohen I I have a little Memoir that I  published a few years ago called the man next  

1:46:53door about Leonard Cohen and I just wanted to it  really wasn’t finished but I felt like I want to  

1:46:59put this out there that’s kind of how how it’s  been I felt like someday I’ll complete this work  

1:47:05but right now I don’t want to just be living  in my own little world so that’s why I have a   Blog so I can kind of you know there’s people  that stumble in it or people that find it and  

1:47:15and they learn bits and pieces of things and  then sometimes I you know they write to me and  

1:47:20um one of one of my blogs is called mother of  Darkness I uh I’ll I’ll give you the URL for that  

1:47:28um but that’s kind of been frozen now I I was  um it seems like they’ve cracked down on it or  

1:47:34something so I can’t add to it it’s kind of  but it’s there’s a lot of material on it if  

1:47:40you skim down and eventually I think I’ll just  reorganize takes it take the the take it and  

1:47:46put it in some other form but like stuff about  Doctrine I have a few articles on Dr Mengele uh  

1:47:54and also hit well Dr Mengele are coming to Quebec  uh experimenting on children in Quebec you know  

1:48:00of the famous the notorious the infamous  Dr Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz Fame right  

1:48:08um was it was taken was brought to America by the  Vatican and one of the first places he came was  

1:48:14Quebec because it was controlled so controlled by  the Vatican and he yeah he probably worked briefly  

1:48:21for McGill you know it’s all been hidden so I have  that kind of material that’s some really great  

1:48:27material on that blog but you have to kind of  scroll through it and I I should be you know I I  

1:48:33should be reorganizing it and putting it out there  more um there’s some stuff online on that blog too  

1:48:39things I found out about him is Cia connections  you know the fact that he had a double I want this  

1:48:46one of my favorite pieces now I’ve I stumbled on  photos that show that in 1961 Leonard Cohen had a  

1:48:53double an actor playing him and they were creating  a some sort of alibi situation you know Leo same  

1:49:02for Lee harveyor as well there were two Lee Harvey  Oswald same era you know and uh CIA you know so I  

1:49:11found I found proof that Leonard Cohen had a had  a you know double yeah life basically well was you  

1:49:20know yeah one on a Greek island and the other  while he was in Cuba you know fighting Castro  

1:49:28for the CIA so that sort of thing on that blog  there’s really a lot of good information in there

1:49:35yeah I’ll send you the link maybe you could  post it yeah absolutely yeah I’ll put it in  

1:49:42the show notes for everybody and are you are  you on social media at all when Facebook is  

1:49:47and Diamond I can’t tell you the exact but  you know and diamond on Facebook I’m one of  

1:49:5327 of them or I don’t know how many now but um  what’s I I also I’ll give you I’ll send you links  

1:50:01um also I’m very involved in a uh I have a  site that’s for survivors of these experiments  

1:50:07mostly Montreal survivors um and we have  there’s another site that I help sometimes  

1:50:13help with called brainwashing victims of the  Canadian government and so you know there’s  

1:50:20um that’s a really good site someone someone  is doing a great job of editing that right now  

1:50:26and so I’ll send you those links to  places where you can you know people can  

1:50:32um yeah and book I have this book I have a  few books and lulu.com is my bookstore okay  

1:50:39and I’m happy to link that to you so people can  go down I always say on the show you know we’re  

1:50:44so conditioned as a society to just go throw money  at non-profits and sure you can you know you can  

1:50:50find a diamond in the rough non-profit that is  doing good but more often than not the ones that  

1:50:56we donate to you know they’re they’re paying their  salaries and they’re not doing much with it and I  

1:51:01always say go give directly to a Survivor purchase  their work you know support their blog go follow  

1:51:07them on social media like that’s a really good  investment to do that because you know exactly   where your money’s going it’s not funneled through  a third party there’s no conditions that are being  

1:51:17taken out I mean of course things like Amazon  like they’re gonna take some money out but I   mean ultimately like it’s going around Amazon  yeah yeah and so I love when people go support  

1:51:27and I love when people you know write me and say  oh I went and bought Anne’s books you know and   they changed my life so I really encourage people  listening please please please please go support  

1:51:37you know it’s so generous that Anne takes the time  out to do something like this for free for us and  

1:51:43she’s been doing free you know with her blog and  everything and just speaking out for 20 years you  

1:51:49know and she puts out a book and it has all the  information in one spot that we could ever want   and it’s it’s a really special thing to have  something like that that you can have at home  

1:51:58and it’s a great gift to give to maybe a friend  who’s waking up you know to say I don’t know how  

1:52:03to talk about this and I don’t feel qualified to  but here’s a book for you to read that’s going to   explain the stuff that I’ve discovered you know  that I think you should know and it’s you know I  

1:52:13think one person at a time you know if we start  supporting survivor’s work and we start hiring   survivors and we start you know reading their  blogs and following their podcasts like then we  

1:52:24start creating an industry and we we give you guys  the resources to keep doing what you’re doing this   stuff isn’t cheap even having a podcast you’re  taking time out of your day right now you know  

1:52:33all the the time that you take to write your blogs  like you’re putting an offer free but there’s an  

1:52:38expense on your end of time and energy so I think  it’s beautiful when you create something that we   can reciprocate and give you something back  for it so I encourage everybody to go buy all  

1:52:48of your stuff and to go support you and I’ll  find you I’ll find the real Facebook for you   and I’ll just link your direct Facebook in the  bottom to you that way people can yeah foreign

1:53:00another thing I would say too though that I’ve  been thinking about lately is that people people  

1:53:13really need to come together around this whole  subject it’s a history topic and there should  

1:53:19be courses given out on it I don’t know if there  are anywhere at universities or adult education  

1:53:24centers or whatever you know so people could  come together because when when I discovered  

1:53:30this the world of MKUltra I I was ready to  read day and night I was so riveted to it it  

1:53:39explained everything and it helped some it was  so helpful and also you know it answered yeah  

1:53:45answered all kinds of questions and I felt like I  hadn’t found a subject in years that had you know  

1:53:51captured my attention the way this does and I’m  it’s like I’ve never I’ve never found anything  

1:53:57since except I kind of like the history of rock  and roll interests me now the history of Music in  

1:54:03my you know but but um that’s you know I we need I  we should be studying these things in universities  

1:54:12finding out about it does it happen to all  of us I believe it’s not just a few survivors  

1:54:18that had this happen the whole society really  it’s a whole society yes it helps you you know  

1:54:24it helps everybody pull themselves out of this  you know manufactured reality and just be able to   see the world for what it is and be able to just  be more conscious instead of being you know just  

1:54:34so robotic like how they want us and depressed and  sad you know it’s like wait a minute I’m depressed  

1:54:39and sad because my government and my TV are making  me this way when I’m out in nature for five days  

1:54:44without my phone I don’t even know anything’s  wrong you know so it’s like we have to really  

1:54:50realize that we the world is bad yes but it’s also  very beautiful and we can create the world that   we want together instead of just the coming to  the world that they’ve created for us and saying  

1:55:00I guess I’m just going to be depressed my whole  life we can say wait a minute we’re going to come   together and reclaim our world and we’re going  to create beautiful you know blogs and podcasts  

1:55:08and books and movies we’re gonna do it we’re not  gonna depend on Hollywood and the government to   do it we’re going to create the beautiful world  that we want you know and and I think we’re we’re  

1:55:17not there yet but the more people learn about  MK Ultra I think that’s really what it does is   it helps us it helps us reclaim our power back and  helps us realize you know what we can do if we all  

1:55:28come together versus being so divided like how  they’ve wanted us to be yeah and the way we’ll  

1:55:35learn is by finding out where we’ve been you know  that’s how you find out how to create the future  

1:55:40so anyway I encourage everyone listen to your  show support survivors and support you I mean  

1:55:50you it seems you’re doing an amazing job so  I’m going to tell everyone about your show   thank you thank you an honor to have you  on you’re such a bright light and it’s  

1:55:59so awesome to see your smiling face and  to just get to actually meet you finally

1:56:05and likewise is there exposing thoughts that you  have or anything that you want to say before we  

1:56:12start closing up for the day I don’t know I feel  sort of you’ve done a great job of wrapping it all  

1:56:19up um I’ve talked a lot you know there’s always  going to be more but I just hope that yeah I just  

1:56:26keep doing what you’re doing and and and don’t  don’t stop because I think this is the key to  

1:56:33so much it’s like the key that we’re not will  unlock all the secrets you know and we have it  

1:56:39now yes we have to take our power back in we’ll do  it yeah well I will link all of your stuff below  

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Chaurisse – Programmed by Freemasons Part 1, 2, 3, 4.

Chaurisse has an amazing story, and I have brought together the 4 episodes of interviews with Dan Duval in one place, as they were spread all over the place. They were found one on youtube, one on facebook, one on apple, and one on spotify. Thanks to those who found them.

The first two are video but the last two are sound only.

Odysee Chaurisse – Programmed By Freemasons You Won’t Believe What She Survived! [1c]

Part 1 and transcript are also on this link… Ya Basta Chaurisse Programmed by Freemasons Part 1 i/v Dan Duval [1]

Chaurisse Programmed by Freemasons Part 2 i/v Dan Duval [2]

Odysee Chaurisse Programmed by Freemasons Part 3 Pulling Back the Veil with Chaurisse i/v Dan Duval Sound Only [3]

Odysee Chaurisse – Programmed by Freemasons Part 4 The Redemption i/v Dan Duval Sound Only [4]

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[1] Ya Basta Chaurisse Programmed by Freemasons Part 1 i/v Dan Duval https://yabasta1.wordpress.com/2022/09/19/chaurisse-programmed-by-freemasons-you-wont-believe-what-she-survived/

[1c] Odysee Chaurisse Programmed By Freemasons Part 1 – You Won’t Believe What She Survived! https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Programmed-By-Freemasons-You-Won%E2%80%99t-Believe-What-She-Survived!-mT3Zatj_ZyE:d

[2] Odysee Chaurisse Programmed by Freemasons Part 2 i/v Dan Duval https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Programmed-by-Freemasons-Part-2-Near-Death-Experiences,-Portals,-and-Sorcery-feat-Chaurisse-607223726702660:f

[3] Odysee Chaurisse Programmed by Freemasons Part 3 Pulling Back the Veil with Chaurisse i/v Dan Duval Sound Only https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Programmed-by-Freemasons-Part-3-Pulling-Back-the-Veil-with-Chaurisse-1000462803667:8

[4] Odysee Chaurisse – Programmed by Freemasons Part 4 The Redemption i/v Dan Duval https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Programmed-by-Freemasons-Part-4—The-Redemption-featuring-Chaurisse-widget:4

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